Hi!
I wonder if there is an outliner that allows HDD folders to be part of the notes structure/tree in such a way that when files change in the HDD folder, the changes are reflected in the outliner's notes structure as well.
I know that Ultra Recall does it (File/Import folder/...Don't import files). I know that MyBase does not do it (it can capture folder creating links to the files, but any further changes in the folder are not reflected in the database). I don't know about InfoQube yet. I would love to see how anybody else does it... that is if there is any other software that does it.
Any idea, pls?
:-)
k

Have not tried this with InfoQube, but it is capable of doing almost anything.

RightNote does this with the added benefit of indexing several common file types (docx, xlsx, pdf). TreePad also did this, but as it is discontinued, you have to have access to a copy. No indexing though. Finally, InfoSelect also does this with no indexing.

Jon

Thank you for your reply, J!

re: RightNote
even with indexing? Wow, very cool! Sadly for me, RN does not support symbolic links, so I won't be able to use it, but good to know.

BTW I have learned, that InfoQube currently does not support this feature, but it might be added should enough people show interest. A very interesting discussion on the topic can be found here: http://infoqubeim.com/drupal5/node/5125#comment-24674

:)
K

Sounds like you’re using Windows, Karel? If so, you could also look at Notebooks (first developed for iOS, then macOS, but also available for Windows), which has a totally transparent folder/notes structure based on the file system. You can also store more or less any kind of file in Notebooks, including images, PDFs, MS-Office files, etc. etc. Notebooks will update itself in real time, and you can also drag and drop files/folders from Explorer/Finder directly into Notebooks and vice versa.

A lot of apps developed for macOS rely on the file system for storage (e.g. NotePlan, Noteship), and there are other more recent developments (Obsidian, I believe?) that do the same across multiple platforms. A good place to look would be alternativeto.net

Cheers,
Bill

karel wrote:

Hi!
I wonder if there is an outliner that allows HDD folders to be part of
the notes structure/tree in such a way that when files change in the HDD
folder, the changes are reflected in the outliner's notes structure as
well.
I know that Ultra Recall does it (File/Import folder/...Don't import
files). I know that MyBase does not do it (it can capture folder
creating links to the files, but any further changes in the folder are
not reflected in the database). I don't know about InfoQube yet. I would
love to see how anybody else does it... that is if there is any other
software that does it.
Any idea, pls?
:-)
k

MadaboutDana wrote:

Sounds like you’re using Windows, Karel? If so, you could also
look at Notebooks (first developed for iOS, then macOS, but also
available for Windows), which has a totally transparent folder/notes
structure based on the file system. You can also store more or less any
kind of file in Notebooks, including images, PDFs, MS-Office files, etc.
etc. Notebooks will update itself in real time, and you can also drag
and drop files/folders from Explorer/Finder directly into Notebooks and
vice versa.

A lot of apps developed for macOS rely on the file system for storage
(e.g. NotePlan, Noteship), and there are other more recent developments
(Obsidian, I believe?) that do the same across multiple platforms. A
good place to look would be alternativeto.net

Cheers,
Bill

Notebooks is great and Alfons is an extremely capable developer, but development for the Windows version is … slow … to be kind. Notebooks has so much potential as a front end for just about everything I try to lasso on my computer. I truly love the way it works, how it helps, and how it gets out of the way. But a big update is long overdue.

The last time i wrote do Alfons to ask about the state of Notebooks for Windows i´ve´got a sense that this version was kind in maintenance and that it would depend on the demand of windows users to the app keep beeing updated...

@MadaboutDana
re: Sounds like you’re using Windows, Karel? If so, you could also look at Notebooks

Yup, I'm a slave to MS :-/
I have not seen notebooksapp, yet. Thank you for bringing it up. I will check it out!

So I have just check the Notebooks (notebooksapp) and it is so close to what I would love to have, I could cry.
Sadly it has no symbolic links.
There is no visible difference between an hdd file and the app note that is kept aside. IMHO there should be a different icon for the app-based note.
It does not work with my old wacom mouse, but that is just my fight with time.
And most of all it feels, well, sluggish. There is a slight delay before everything happens.

Still, it is a beautiful concept. So close, but not just there yet :-(

Thanks for pointing it out to me!

:)
k

P.S. also there does not seem to be any way to normally navigate through the app with keyboard only. That's a bummer too :-(

There are a few mindmappers that have this functionality. For example, there's the dView plugin for Freeplane: https://www.freeplane.org/wiki/index.php/Information_management_withFreeplane_add-on_dView(indexfile It even works with Sharepoint folders.

There was also a more traditional outliner developed by the KFTF research team that used this as the core idea for the outliner, i.e., every item in the outline was also backed by a folder. At some point it got renamed to Planz, but never moved beyond the prototype stage. See here: http://kftf.ischool.washington.edu/projects.htm

--Chris

I believe that Outwiker can do this for the file types that it recognises, i.e., plain text / markdown and HTML
https://jenyay.net/Outwiker/English