Why do you CRIMP?
Started by tradercclee
on 9/17/2011
cpb
9/29/2011 4:15 am
Actually the civ example is pretty representative here; civ5 is slower, fatter, less customizable, less feature-rich and arguably more beside-the-point than some of its predecessors.
-cpb
Paulo Diniz wrote:
-cpb
Paulo Diniz wrote:
......
Civilization -> Civ5
Grandview and Lotus Agenda ->
???
Cassius
9/29/2011 4:17 am
Paulo Diniz wrote:
Cassius replies:
I respectively disagree. I don't know what you consider a 'large" amount of data, but a really large amount of data requires really large storage and processing capacity--really FAST processing capacity. We're talking REAL MONEY. Same goes for software.
Good video games cost REAL MONEY to produce. About 2-3 years ago my son was in charge of a $35 Million video game development project. No one would put that much money into a project unless they thought that they would sell many millions of copies.
I don't think any developer thinks that the market for "Personal/Individual" software for processing large amounts of data has a potential market large enough to cover the development cost. (The individuals probably couldn't afford either the needed hardware or the software.)
The slightly paranoid side in me keeps=========
questioning if the lack of more powerful (while still being intuitive, quick and fun )
tools for dealing and managing big amounts of data *in a PERSONAL/INDIVIDUAL* level
isn't actually a deliberate omission by the big players in the tech/software
world.
After all, the lack of market can't be used as an excuse if we consider that
people don't know what they need/want until they actually get it.
If we consider the
gaming industry, comparing the progress made in the last two decades, and compare it
with the PIM software market in the same period of time, then the situation really
deserves a small laugh.
Cassius replies:
I respectively disagree. I don't know what you consider a 'large" amount of data, but a really large amount of data requires really large storage and processing capacity--really FAST processing capacity. We're talking REAL MONEY. Same goes for software.
Good video games cost REAL MONEY to produce. About 2-3 years ago my son was in charge of a $35 Million video game development project. No one would put that much money into a project unless they thought that they would sell many millions of copies.
I don't think any developer thinks that the market for "Personal/Individual" software for processing large amounts of data has a potential market large enough to cover the development cost. (The individuals probably couldn't afford either the needed hardware or the software.)
JBfrom
9/29/2011 7:03 am
I also don't know what you consider to be "big data" but my largest org-mode file is 94 megabytes of plain text... and it works without lag. That's enough to choke any other PIM I know of that's more sophisticated than a simple text editor. And I do find org-mode fun now that I've discovered Xah Lee's site, although I'll admit it was somewhat mysterious and frustrating before.
I guess the other "big data" software I have is my wordpress T3 install which currently has over 1000 entries plus multimedia and also operates without lag.
Hmm come to think of it Gmail and Google Reader qualify as big data as well, as does the Greplin plugin that searches them both...
I guess the other "big data" software I have is my wordpress T3 install which currently has over 1000 entries plus multimedia and also operates without lag.
Hmm come to think of it Gmail and Google Reader qualify as big data as well, as does the Greplin plugin that searches them both...
Daly de Gagne
9/29/2011 2:08 pm
Trader, that's a good question - why do I crimp?
Like you, I enjoy trying different software programs, looking for something new, a better way to organize information, and so on.
I'm aware that underlying that is my own difficulty organizing myself, and keeping on track. As some here may know, I deal with issues related to ADHD, depression, and executive dysfunction. At times I just get plain stuck.
Some of the people I've met over the years experience similar tendencies. Trying new software is both a way of looking for a solution and, as Trader says, it's a way of feeling you're doing something when in fact, you're not.
I think, when stuck, it's important to know when CRIMPing is a positive step forward, or simply a substitute for worthwhile action, for getting unstuck. Of course, when stuck and seemingly unable to do anything productive the greatest challenge is simply knowing what to do to move from inaction to being in action. Yesterday on my blog I posted on one strategy for getting unstuck..
Here's the url for that post: http://www.exuberanteclectic.com/2011/09/get-unstuck-use-time-ins-to-move-from.html I hope the post is helpful.
I find it helps me when I realize I'm in CRIMP mode to discern whether it is worthwhile in that moment, or a way for me to feel like I'm doing something when I am otherwise stuck or avoiding what needs to be done.
Daly
tradercclee wrote:
Like you, I enjoy trying different software programs, looking for something new, a better way to organize information, and so on.
I'm aware that underlying that is my own difficulty organizing myself, and keeping on track. As some here may know, I deal with issues related to ADHD, depression, and executive dysfunction. At times I just get plain stuck.
Some of the people I've met over the years experience similar tendencies. Trying new software is both a way of looking for a solution and, as Trader says, it's a way of feeling you're doing something when in fact, you're not.
I think, when stuck, it's important to know when CRIMPing is a positive step forward, or simply a substitute for worthwhile action, for getting unstuck. Of course, when stuck and seemingly unable to do anything productive the greatest challenge is simply knowing what to do to move from inaction to being in action. Yesterday on my blog I posted on one strategy for getting unstuck..
Here's the url for that post: http://www.exuberanteclectic.com/2011/09/get-unstuck-use-time-ins-to-move-from.html I hope the post is helpful.
I find it helps me when I realize I'm in CRIMP mode to discern whether it is worthwhile in that moment, or a way for me to feel like I'm doing something when I am otherwise stuck or avoiding what needs to be done.
Daly
tradercclee wrote:
Hi everyone,
Been reading this forum for a while... It's obvious that there a lot of
fellow CRIMPers here.
My question is: Why do you CRIMP?
I use various outliners,
info visualizers, PIMs, etc to gather ideas for long term goals, and then break them
down to form best plan of attack.
I go from software to software, constantly looking
for something that can capture and synthesize my thoughts better.
At the end of the
day, I think I'm CRIMPing because it's more fun learning/using new software to
organize info, than it is to actually just organize my info. :)
Also, maybe it makes
me feel like I'm *doing* something productive when I move information around.
Once
I've organized info in a software and need to start turning the info into action, I go on
to other software to move information there (and feel productive without doing the
actions :)).
Anyway... Wanted to share my own tendencies!
Lastly (catering to my
CRIMP side :)) - What software have you found to most effectively turn your long term
big goals/ideas into action?
Daly de Gagne
9/29/2011 2:08 pm
Trader, that's a good question - why do I crimp?
Like you, I enjoy trying different software programs, looking for something new, a better way to organize information, and so on.
I'm aware that underlying that is my own difficulty organizing myself, and keeping on track. As some here may know, I deal with issues related to ADHD, depression, and executive dysfunction. At times I just get plain stuck.
Some of the people I've met over the years experience similar tendencies. Trying new software is both a way of looking for a solution and, as Trader says, it's a way of feeling you're doing something when in fact, you're not.
I think, when stuck, it's important to know when CRIMPing is a positive step forward, or simply a substitute for worthwhile action, for getting unstuck. Of course, when stuck and seemingly unable to do anything productive the greatest challenge is simply knowing what to do to move from inaction to being in action. Yesterday on my blog I posted on one strategy for getting unstuck..
Here's the url for that post: http://www.exuberanteclectic.com/2011/09/get-unstuck-use-time-ins-to-move-from.html I hope the post is helpful.
I find it helps me when I realize I'm in CRIMP mode to discern whether it is worthwhile in that moment, or a way for me to feel like I'm doing something when I am otherwise stuck or avoiding what needs to be done.
Daly
tradercclee wrote:
Like you, I enjoy trying different software programs, looking for something new, a better way to organize information, and so on.
I'm aware that underlying that is my own difficulty organizing myself, and keeping on track. As some here may know, I deal with issues related to ADHD, depression, and executive dysfunction. At times I just get plain stuck.
Some of the people I've met over the years experience similar tendencies. Trying new software is both a way of looking for a solution and, as Trader says, it's a way of feeling you're doing something when in fact, you're not.
I think, when stuck, it's important to know when CRIMPing is a positive step forward, or simply a substitute for worthwhile action, for getting unstuck. Of course, when stuck and seemingly unable to do anything productive the greatest challenge is simply knowing what to do to move from inaction to being in action. Yesterday on my blog I posted on one strategy for getting unstuck..
Here's the url for that post: http://www.exuberanteclectic.com/2011/09/get-unstuck-use-time-ins-to-move-from.html I hope the post is helpful.
I find it helps me when I realize I'm in CRIMP mode to discern whether it is worthwhile in that moment, or a way for me to feel like I'm doing something when I am otherwise stuck or avoiding what needs to be done.
Daly
tradercclee wrote:
Hi everyone,
Been reading this forum for a while... It's obvious that there a lot of
fellow CRIMPers here.
My question is: Why do you CRIMP?
I use various outliners,
info visualizers, PIMs, etc to gather ideas for long term goals, and then break them
down to form best plan of attack.
I go from software to software, constantly looking
for something that can capture and synthesize my thoughts better.
At the end of the
day, I think I'm CRIMPing because it's more fun learning/using new software to
organize info, than it is to actually just organize my info. :)
Also, maybe it makes
me feel like I'm *doing* something productive when I move information around.
Once
I've organized info in a software and need to start turning the info into action, I go on
to other software to move information there (and feel productive without doing the
actions :)).
Anyway... Wanted to share my own tendencies!
Lastly (catering to my
CRIMP side :)) - What software have you found to most effectively turn your long term
big goals/ideas into action?
Dr Andus
9/29/2011 3:31 pm
Ken wrote:
I have also experimented with the Pomodoro technique but it didn't work for me. I couldn't just stop writing after 25 min, if I was mid-flow. I also kept forgetting to time my breaks, ending up with longer breaks than 5 min. Instead, I invented the Reverse Pomodoro Technique ??? (patent pending). It consists of a cheap stopwatch, a Google Doc spreadsheet, and me simply timing, recording and adding up my productive work time periods per day.
I find this more helpful because it actually allowed me to discover the length of my own natural Pomodoro (which is about 30 min, but sometimes 40 min and occasionally even 60min). This way I can know whether I have worked a good day, as I can compare my daily productive work time with the previous ones or the average. As for breaks, I can take them whenever and as long as I wish. What matters is that I reach my productive daily quota.
I actually tried to use various software and platforms to track my work time but they all involved too many steps, and I ended up forgetting to turn them on or off. Having a real stopwatch in front of me is easy, as it is to update the Google spreadsheet. Should you need a specialist stopwatch, please contact me. I will be launching a Reverse Pomodoro ??? branded range soon...
Why CRIMP? Because I can only handle so much of The Pomodoro Technique -
http://www.pomodorotechnique.com/ before I feel like a slave to my work at hand. A
guy has to dream once in a while that he is in charge of his work load, and not vice-versa.
I have also experimented with the Pomodoro technique but it didn't work for me. I couldn't just stop writing after 25 min, if I was mid-flow. I also kept forgetting to time my breaks, ending up with longer breaks than 5 min. Instead, I invented the Reverse Pomodoro Technique ??? (patent pending). It consists of a cheap stopwatch, a Google Doc spreadsheet, and me simply timing, recording and adding up my productive work time periods per day.
I find this more helpful because it actually allowed me to discover the length of my own natural Pomodoro (which is about 30 min, but sometimes 40 min and occasionally even 60min). This way I can know whether I have worked a good day, as I can compare my daily productive work time with the previous ones or the average. As for breaks, I can take them whenever and as long as I wish. What matters is that I reach my productive daily quota.
I actually tried to use various software and platforms to track my work time but they all involved too many steps, and I ended up forgetting to turn them on or off. Having a real stopwatch in front of me is easy, as it is to update the Google spreadsheet. Should you need a specialist stopwatch, please contact me. I will be launching a Reverse Pomodoro ??? branded range soon...
Paulo Diniz
9/29/2011 4:28 pm
Respectfully, my opinion on the "lack of market" point was already on my first post.
It's nice to know, though, that you consider the "real money" factor and that you keep your feet and head firmly attached tp the real ground.
Would you've bet on Twitter?
Pauilo
It's nice to know, though, that you consider the "real money" factor and that you keep your feet and head firmly attached tp the real ground.
Would you've bet on Twitter?
Pauilo
Cassius replies:
I
respectively disagree. I don't know what you consider a 'large" amount of data, but a
really large amount of data requires really large storage and processing
capacity--really FAST processing capacity. We're talking REAL MONEY. Same goes for
software.
Good video games cost REAL MONEY to produce. About 2-3 years ago my son was
in charge of a $35 Million video game development project. No one would put that much
money into a project unless they thought that they would sell many millions of
copies.
I don't think any developer thinks that the market for
"Personal/Individual" software for processing large amounts of data has a
potential market large enough to cover the development cost. (The individuals
probably couldn't afford either the needed hardware or the software.)
Alexander Deliyannis
9/29/2011 9:21 pm
Daly, thanks for the great points and the excellent blog post.
I'm going through a period of very intensive work and find that this forum is my favourite time-out. I don't watch television, I read the news once a week, I still haven't become a Google+ regular, I haven't checked most of my RSS feeds for more than a year, but rarely a day will pass that I don't check the posts here. Don't ask me why, I'm sure there's a deep or shallow explanation somewhere but I haven't thought about it.
All this to say that I'd be interested in more links to other posts from people frequenting this forum, whenever you feel there's something worth reading, even at the fringe of what we are discussing here.
I'm going through a period of very intensive work and find that this forum is my favourite time-out. I don't watch television, I read the news once a week, I still haven't become a Google+ regular, I haven't checked most of my RSS feeds for more than a year, but rarely a day will pass that I don't check the posts here. Don't ask me why, I'm sure there's a deep or shallow explanation somewhere but I haven't thought about it.
All this to say that I'd be interested in more links to other posts from people frequenting this forum, whenever you feel there's something worth reading, even at the fringe of what we are discussing here.
Alexander Deliyannis
9/29/2011 9:31 pm
Dr Andus, I concur about the length of the Pomodoro being rather subjective, and indeed mine too is probably longer than 25'. At the same time I find that the Pomodoro is an acceptable minimum and that there's a significant amount of potential diversions that can occur within that period --especially given my proneness to mind wondering. Using my timer (GTD Timer) has helped me restrain my tendency to respond to external stimuli when working.
Recording time is indeed eye-opening; in the past I've used a convenient free/donationware application, MapleXp http://www.maplexp.com/
I'd be happy to try your reverse Pomodoro software whenever you make it :-)
Recording time is indeed eye-opening; in the past I've used a convenient free/donationware application, MapleXp http://www.maplexp.com/
I'd be happy to try your reverse Pomodoro software whenever you make it :-)
Dr Andus
7/27/2013 9:50 pm
Once on this forum I lamented the lack of some kind of an organised marketplace where users could evaluate and rank various outliner and productivity software.
Well, it seems that http://alternativeto.net/ is emerging as something like that. It looks great for a bit of CRIMPing.
See e.g. http://alternativeto.net/tag/note-taking/
Except that I find myself completely disagreeing with the rankings. All my most favourite software languish at the bottom of their respective categories.
What could that mean?
a) I only like unpopular software ( perhaps because I'm insufficiently informed about what's best for me or what the best software in their categories out there are)?
b) People who know about software are too busy being productive with their tools and don't have time to register with "Alternative To", which leaves the ranking process in the hands of poorly informed users?
c) People who make the best PIM, outliner, note-taking etc. software are one-man bands who don't have the time to be promoting their software and may not have the right marketing expertise either?
d) The best software in any category tends to be specialist, niche software, and therefore unlikely to attract huge number of users (especially of the kind that bother to register with "Alternative To")?
Well, it seems that http://alternativeto.net/ is emerging as something like that. It looks great for a bit of CRIMPing.
See e.g. http://alternativeto.net/tag/note-taking/
Except that I find myself completely disagreeing with the rankings. All my most favourite software languish at the bottom of their respective categories.
What could that mean?
a) I only like unpopular software ( perhaps because I'm insufficiently informed about what's best for me or what the best software in their categories out there are)?
b) People who know about software are too busy being productive with their tools and don't have time to register with "Alternative To", which leaves the ranking process in the hands of poorly informed users?
c) People who make the best PIM, outliner, note-taking etc. software are one-man bands who don't have the time to be promoting their software and may not have the right marketing expertise either?
d) The best software in any category tends to be specialist, niche software, and therefore unlikely to attract huge number of users (especially of the kind that bother to register with "Alternative To")?
Dr Andus
7/27/2013 11:52 pm
Dr Andus wrote:
OK, I couldn't resist and registered to vote (the democrat that I am :)
Here are my favourites (you'll see which are the ones with very low ranking but often highly spoken of on this forum):
http://alternativeto.net/user/dr_andus/
Some of my favourites were not even on the website, so I couldn't vote for them, most notably: Outline 4D and BrainStorm...
Well, it seems that http://alternativeto.net/ is emerging as something
like that. It looks great for a bit of CRIMPing.
Except that I find myself completely disagreeing with the rankings. All
my most favourite software languish at the bottom of their respective
categories.
OK, I couldn't resist and registered to vote (the democrat that I am :)
Here are my favourites (you'll see which are the ones with very low ranking but often highly spoken of on this forum):
http://alternativeto.net/user/dr_andus/
Some of my favourites were not even on the website, so I couldn't vote for them, most notably: Outline 4D and BrainStorm...
Donovan
7/29/2013 6:50 pm
Dr Andus wrote:
Dr Andus wrote:
>Well, it seems that http://alternativeto.net/ is emerging as something
>like that. It looks great for a bit of CRIMPing.
>Except that I find myself completely disagreeing with the rankings. All
>my most favourite software languish at the bottom of their respective
>categories.
OK, I couldn't resist and registered to vote (the democrat that I am :)
Here are my favourites (you'll see which are the ones with very low
ranking but often highly spoken of on this forum):
http://alternativeto.net/user/dr_andus/
Some of my favourites were not even on the website, so I couldn't vote
for them, most notably: Outline 4D and BrainStorm...
Thanks for this. That's actually a pretty good site for lists like this. There are some that were on your list I wasn't familiar list and am going to take a look. Thanks again.
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