The new upgrade to Craft notes is pretty big, adding the following features:

1. Task management. This appears pretty robust for a "notes" app. Each task can also be a page for adding details and sub-tasks. There's nice overview of your tasks.

2. Collections. A lot like tables in Notion.

3. Calendar.

4. Styles

The task management and collections most appeal to me. I think the collections feature isn't quite fully implemented.

Here's a quick video overview:

https://youtu.be/lhkYk8mfBYE?si=6AkHxYswBgz0mzXG

Steve

Article yesterday in The Verge:

"Craft 3 is shockingly close to my ideal productivity app: By pivoting away from competing with Google Docs and selling to businesses, Craft got back to note-taking basics — and built something awesome."

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/28/24307906/craft-3-notes-tasks-calendar-app-mac-iphone-windows

I'm not sure I agree with the reviewer that this version is "back to note-taking basics"... this new version seems unfathomably complicated to me.

Frankly, I'm pretty excited by it. The new Tasks area is killer, roping in all upcoming tasks in one place from all your documents and lists (and showing you where they reside, and letting you add/edit in those docs from the Tasks view), while also being a location to make separate lists outside existing notes.

Similarly, the Calendar view brings in all dated/timed items from various notes and tasks, and lets you add new items inside the calendar view.

This seems like the Noteplan-ification of Craft, but Craft has always seemed stronger in crafting notes (especially longer notes). Interestingly they're the same price (excepting Craft's 50% off Black Friday deals).

The article points out that substasks are absent, but it fails to point out that recurring tasks are currently missing in action too -- which for me means I can't replace my task app with it. To its credit it supports the most common Markdown elements... but it isn't fully Markdown compliant.

https://support.craft.do/hc/en-us/articles/360019555597-Markdown-Style-Shortcuts

I've simplified my Task management: when Todoist started having sync and reminder problems this spring (right after I resubscribed in my 6th year), I spent half a day and copied over everything to Apple Reminders, which I'd previously neglected because of its comparative primitiveness. But Apple has improved Reminders a lot in recent years, and even after Todoist got its act together a month later I stayed with Reminders... which now has one-way integration with Apple Calendar.

I'm pretty satisfied with this free solution, and despite a lot of advancements in Todoist (like a new built-in calendar) I currently have a Reminder to cancel my Todoist resub in March.

But nearly all the task-oriented management apps have weak-to-nonexistent notetaking capabilities. It's left to apps like NotePlan, Agenda and Supernotes to integrate tasks, calendar and good notetaking (both calendar-based and not). You could hack much of this in Notion too... but it'd be a hack, and these apps (and Craft) have native desktop apps which run much more smoothly, better following OS UI guidelines that users are used to.

The most affordable of these apps remains Agenda, but Craft's free tier is intriguing and possibly useful enough for a lot of people: 10 free documents, plus 2 additional free documents per month.

I can empathize with this view. But frankly, I feel this way with many apps. Craft has been issuing several videos about the features. Not always a solution to a complicated U.I.

Chris Thompson wrote:

I'm not sure I agree with the reviewer that this version is "back to
note-taking basics"... this new version seems unfathomably complicated
to me.

satis wrote:

The article points out that substasks are absent, but it fails to point
out that recurring tasks are currently missing in action too -- which
for me means I can't replace my task app with it. To its credit it
supports the most common Markdown elements... but it isn't fully
Markdown compliant.

https://support.craft.do/hc/en-us/articles/360019555597-Markdown-Style-Shortcuts

You can open any task as a document and add tasks to the document, which are defect sub-tasks, although they don't show up in the task view, not sure why, because you can add due dates to these and even open them as docs too. I suspect this a bug or an unfinished feature.

Having played with it a little, “unfinished” is, I think, the right word. For example, incomplete tasks in your Tasks inbox don’t show up in the Calendar view, which seems to be limited to Daily Note(s). This is an extraordinary omission, IMHO.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

satis wrote:
>
>The article points out that substasks are absent, but it fails to point
>out that recurring tasks are currently missing in action too -- which
>for me means I can't replace my task app with it. To its credit it
>supports the most common Markdown elements... but it isn't fully
>Markdown compliant.
>
>https://support.craft.do/hc/en-us/articles/360019555597-Markdown-Style-Shortcuts

You can open any task as a document and add tasks to the document, which
are defect sub-tasks, although they don't show up in the task view, not
sure why, because you can add due dates to these and even open them as
docs too. I suspect this a bug or an unfinished feature.

Having played with it a little, “unfinished” is, I think, the right word. For example, incomplete tasks in your Tasks inbox don’t show up in the Calendar view, which seems to be limited to Daily Note(s). This is an extraordinary omission, IMHO.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

satis wrote:
>
>The article points out that substasks are absent, but it fails to point
>out that recurring tasks are currently missing in action too -- which
>for me means I can't replace my task app with it. To its credit it
>supports the most common Markdown elements... but it isn't fully
>Markdown compliant.
>
>https://support.craft.do/hc/en-us/articles/360019555597-Markdown-Style-Shortcuts

You can open any task as a document and add tasks to the document, which
are defect sub-tasks, although they don't show up in the task view, not
sure why, because you can add due dates to these and even open them as
docs too. I suspect this a bug or an unfinished feature.

I have noticed something like this effect, but then, when I've come back to it, tasks that I thought weren't registering were there. I suspect the bug is somehow in the refresh. Still a problem, no doubt.

MadaboutDana wrote:

Having played with it a little, “unfinished” is, I think,
the right word. For example, incomplete tasks in your Tasks inbox
don’t show up in the Calendar view, which seems to be limited to
Daily Note(s). This is an extraordinary omission, IMHO.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

>
>satis wrote:
>>
>>The article points out that substasks are absent, but it fails to
point
>>out that recurring tasks are currently missing in action too -- which
>>for me means I can't replace my task app with it. To its credit it
>>supports the most common Markdown elements... but it isn't fully
>>Markdown compliant.
>>
>>https://support.craft.do/hc/en-us/articles/360019555597-Markdown-Style-Shortcuts
>
>You can open any task as a document and add tasks to the document,
which
>are defect sub-tasks, although they don't show up in the task view, not
>sure why, because you can add due dates to these and even open them as
>docs too. I suspect this a bug or an unfinished feature.
>
>