Apps for Scratchpads
Started by Dellu
on 6/24/2022
Dellu
6/24/2022 3:59 pm
I used to write scratches (things I am doing "right now"/logs) using my writing apps such as KeepIt/Curiota/DT etc.
The problem with that method is the scratchpad note gets lost in the jungle: and often get lazy to find the note, and to add items to it. For that, I am thinking use very simple app for this purpose: to write scratches.
What I want is an app that satisfies the following 5 requirements:
a) note menu item: I should be able write from the menu item; and the menu item should be independent of the big note app
b) transparent storage: to a mac folder
c) expandable window: no rigid windows
d) Should be sticky (floating) over other apps
e) text formatting: should support either markdown or rtf formatting
Thus far, I have tried a number of simple apps. Here is my comparison of those apps.
1. FiveNotes:
√- note menu item
x- transparent storage:
x- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
√ text formatting
2. Antnotes:
√- note menu item
x- transparent storage:
√- expandable window
√ Can be sticky (floating)
√ text formatting
This is better than Fivenotes because notes can be exported; and has a global shortcut to show the notes. I can use the export command to make the Scratch visible to Spotlight; by overwriting the old version. This is not as good as directly editing a text file. But, is better than having no way of making the file available to spotlight.
3. Unclutter:
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage:
√- expandable window
√ Can be sticky (floating)
x text formatting—-it supports only plain text. This is the major issue I have about this app.
4. Quick notes:
- I couldn't find this for macos 10.13.
5. FromScratch:
x- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
x formatting
6. Clipto:
This more or less like Obsidian: a complex system with internal storage.
7. Handynote:
- This is similar to Antnotes.
8. Tyke:
—no formatting
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
x formatting
9. Mininote Pro
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
√ Can be sticky (floating)
√ text formatting (rtf of markdown)
This is similar to Antnote: there is no much difference between these two.
From function perspective: Antnotes = Mininote Pro
10. Sticky:
x- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
√ formatting
—-there is no advantage over the Antnote except the sync with Evernote feature.
11. Notelife (formerly SOHO notes):
- it also has a menu item (Flash). But, it is not possible to create or edit notes from the menu item. It can only search items.
- the Flash also requires the main app to run; much similar to Scrivener's scratchpad.
12. Evernote:
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
x- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
x formatting
13. Devonthink:
√- note from menu item
√- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
x- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
√ formatting
Thus far, Antnote and Mininote Pro come closest to my needs. Still, they miss the transparency requirement.
Have I missed another app that could satisfy these requirements?
The problem with that method is the scratchpad note gets lost in the jungle: and often get lazy to find the note, and to add items to it. For that, I am thinking use very simple app for this purpose: to write scratches.
What I want is an app that satisfies the following 5 requirements:
a) note menu item: I should be able write from the menu item; and the menu item should be independent of the big note app
b) transparent storage: to a mac folder
c) expandable window: no rigid windows
d) Should be sticky (floating) over other apps
e) text formatting: should support either markdown or rtf formatting
Thus far, I have tried a number of simple apps. Here is my comparison of those apps.
1. FiveNotes:
√- note menu item
x- transparent storage:
x- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
√ text formatting
2. Antnotes:
√- note menu item
x- transparent storage:
√- expandable window
√ Can be sticky (floating)
√ text formatting
This is better than Fivenotes because notes can be exported; and has a global shortcut to show the notes. I can use the export command to make the Scratch visible to Spotlight; by overwriting the old version. This is not as good as directly editing a text file. But, is better than having no way of making the file available to spotlight.
3. Unclutter:
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage:
√- expandable window
√ Can be sticky (floating)
x text formatting—-it supports only plain text. This is the major issue I have about this app.
4. Quick notes:
- I couldn't find this for macos 10.13.
5. FromScratch:
x- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
x formatting
6. Clipto:
This more or less like Obsidian: a complex system with internal storage.
7. Handynote:
- This is similar to Antnotes.
8. Tyke:
—no formatting
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
x formatting
9. Mininote Pro
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
√ Can be sticky (floating)
√ text formatting (rtf of markdown)
This is similar to Antnote: there is no much difference between these two.
From function perspective: Antnotes = Mininote Pro
10. Sticky:
x- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
√- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
√ formatting
—-there is no advantage over the Antnote except the sync with Evernote feature.
11. Notelife (formerly SOHO notes):
- it also has a menu item (Flash). But, it is not possible to create or edit notes from the menu item. It can only search items.
- the Flash also requires the main app to run; much similar to Scrivener's scratchpad.
12. Evernote:
√- note from menu item
x- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
x- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
x formatting
13. Devonthink:
√- note from menu item
√- transparent storage (txt, md or rtf)
x- expandable window
x Can be sticky (floating)
√ formatting
Thus far, Antnote and Mininote Pro come closest to my needs. Still, they miss the transparency requirement.
Have I missed another app that could satisfy these requirements?
Stephen Zeoli
6/24/2022 4:56 pm
Have you looked at Tab Notes? I think it meets all your requirements... I don't use it, but I remembered it when reading your post.
mry53
6/24/2022 5:00 pm
SnipNotes meets my needs, which sound similar to yours
satis
6/24/2022 6:48 pm
SnipNotes is fantastic. Mac and iOS and Apple Watch apps and unlike some apps like UpNote it has a real menubar app from which you can enter notes, even if the app is not running.
https://www.snipnotes.de/en/
I also use the free Tot app on my Mac for super-quick notes on the fly, usually while on a call or website. (There's a companion iOS app but it's a pretty unreasonable $20 so I passed on it.) I have no idea where the notes text resides on my machine though.
https://tot.rocks/
https://www.snipnotes.de/en/
I also use the free Tot app on my Mac for super-quick notes on the fly, usually while on a call or website. (There's a companion iOS app but it's a pretty unreasonable $20 so I passed on it.) I have no idea where the notes text resides on my machine though.
https://tot.rocks/
Larry_in_Bangkok
6/25/2022 5:54 am
Dellu wrote:
Have I missed another app that could satisfy these requirements?
... Thank you, Dellu, for posting about scratch pads, note-taking.
Very interesting to me because I take notes frequently.
... Observations:
... I wondered: "Dellu asks for an app, but are there other, more efficient ways to meet those requirements?"
... #1: Your list of possible apps seems very short, quite limited.
May I ask what was the source for the list above?
...#2: Your requirement for "sticky/floating" suggest you are a mouse-user, rather than a fluent touch-typer.
Is that correct, or not?
... The app I am using is DEVONthink.
The user-interface is torture, but everything else about it is superb (for taking and retrieving notes).
Paul Korm
6/25/2022 5:07 pm
Apple Notes' quick note feature might tick most boxes
a) note menu item: slides in from the corner you define in Mission Control; default lower right
b) transparent storage: not transparent; but export is easy; and syncs across all Apple devices
c) expandable window: quick notes does this
d) Should be sticky (floating) over other apps: quick notes does this
e) text formatting: should support either markdown or rtf formatting: RTF, not markdown
Free.
a) note menu item: slides in from the corner you define in Mission Control; default lower right
b) transparent storage: not transparent; but export is easy; and syncs across all Apple devices
c) expandable window: quick notes does this
d) Should be sticky (floating) over other apps: quick notes does this
e) text formatting: should support either markdown or rtf formatting: RTF, not markdown
Free.
Dellu
6/27/2022 9:24 am
#1: Your list of possible apps seems very short, quite limited. May I ask what was the source for the list above?The thing is: I was comparing apps that are either free to use, or have some trial periods (or the apps that are already in my arsenal). I didn't want spend a lot of money on an app that I might not use it in the end.
#2: Your requirement for “sticky/floating” suggest you are a mouse-user, rather than a fluent touch-typer. Is that correct, or not?The reason for the floating feature is not that I cannot type fast. What rather I want to is the scratchpad window to stay on the corder of my window so that I can scratch on it the whole day. Assume I am writing sth, and I have a could of ideas I want to put on paper, and my wife asked me to do sth. To avoid the breakage of ideas, I will scratch what I have been doing, and what I need to do when I return to my table.
The problem with DT for this kind of purpose is you have to go to the database to find your Scratchpad. That is not what I want. I want it to be simple, and always visible.
Dellu
6/27/2022 9:27 am
Paul Korm wrote:
Apple Notes' quick note feature might tick most boxes
a) note menu item: slides in from the corner you define in Mission
Control; default lower right
b) transparent storage: not transparent; but export is easy; and syncs
across all Apple devices
c) expandable window: quick notes does this
d) Should be sticky (floating) over other apps: quick notes does this
e) text formatting: should support either markdown or rtf formatting:
RTF, not markdown
Free.
Thank you Paul. I am totally embarrassed: totally overlooked Apple's note App--I never realized that has the floating feature; and the point of the transparency is to be able to find the terms/phrases inside the scratchpad using Spotlight.
Dellu
6/27/2022 9:33 am
Thank you Stephen; Tab Notes sounds interesting. But, I cannot try it because the developer doesn't seem to offer a trial.
And thanks for mry53 and satis for suggesting SnipNotes. I have read a lot of great things about this app. It seems to satisfy all the requirements that I posted. But, the problem again is the developer has no trial; cannot try to before I buy it. That is a "BUY and TRY" is a huge NO to me because I might not like it ultimately.
And thanks for mry53 and satis for suggesting SnipNotes. I have read a lot of great things about this app. It seems to satisfy all the requirements that I posted. But, the problem again is the developer has no trial; cannot try to before I buy it. That is a "BUY and TRY" is a huge NO to me because I might not like it ultimately.
MadaboutDana
6/27/2022 9:46 am
SideNotes is one of my preferred quickies (I don't put quick notes in Apple Notes any more, because I've got thousands of notes in there! But it's a good solution)
If I'm doing fast drafts of small-scale stuff, I tend to use GrowlyNotes (because of the infinite whiteboard capability).
For very brief, efficient notes I use one of the options you mention, UnClutter. It's brilliant.
If I'm doing fast drafts of small-scale stuff, I tend to use GrowlyNotes (because of the infinite whiteboard capability).
For very brief, efficient notes I use one of the options you mention, UnClutter. It's brilliant.
Listerene
6/28/2022 8:11 pm
IME, the best notetaking app is a code editor, like NotePad++ for Windows. The reason is that they allow unlimited text files with strong search routines using regx; everything you need for coding AND for a note app.
