There is yet another app that is in early beta and trying to work its way into the visual note-taking field. It is called Scrintal. They describe it as "if Miro and Obsidian had a baby!"

Anyway, if you are interested in checking it out and use the link below, that somehow helps me move up the list on early access:

https://scrint.al/?r=OowuN

If you don't want to get sucked into that scheme (and who can blame you if you don't want to) but still want to check it out, here is the straight link to the website:

https://www.scrintal.com/

Steve

BTW, I meant to add to my comment about Scrintal that one of the things that makes me a bit more enthusiastic about this app is that they promise to make the notes you curate be exportable to usable files such as .docs. This is a missing feature in a lot of these apps. I will, of course, await judgment until I see how this export is actually implemented.

Thanks, @Stephen, for letting us know about this app. It certainly looks like the app I have been waiting for all along! I am waiting to be granted access to use it too.
In the meantime, I came across a wonderful video that goes into depth in using Scrintal for academic research. It borrows liberally from the Zettlekasten Method.

https://youtu.be/8l0WBt_NL_w

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

BTW, I meant to add to my comment about Scrintal that one of the things
that makes me a bit more enthusiastic about this app is that they
promise to make the notes you curate be exportable to usable files such
as .docs. This is a missing feature in a lot of these apps. I will, of
course, await judgment until I see how this export is actually
implemented.

Company blog post on early-access to Scrintal, and discussing the $60/yr pricing they decided on:

https://blog.scrintal.com/revealing-scrintals-early-access-plan-1fb36a3d0b8f

Article on using Scrintal for research:

https://medium.com/the-scrintalist/researching-a-topic-using-scrintal-500b194b395e

Scrintal looks like a focused Tinderbox - is that a fair assessment?

By "more focused" I mean it appears to do the corkboard/note thing without the backend agents and other automation Tinderbox offers.

That's fair as far as it goes. It is really like just the Tinderbox Map view, without the other views, such as outline. But the notes area for each of the cards in Scrintal is a superior (in my view) editor for writing and adding other content.

Steve

Amontillado wrote:

Scrintal looks like a focused Tinderbox - is that a fair assessment?

By "more focused" I mean it appears to do the corkboard/note thing
without the backend agents and other automation Tinderbox offers.

Well, drat, now an old rabbit hole calls. I've been messing with property tax reports, mining for scandal (and finding plenty) with a little bit of Python and a lot of peregrination in Easy Data Transform. It's reminded me I don't mind poking around with knobs and levers.

So I reinstalled Tinderbox. This time, it might stick.

I'm thinking of containers that self-populate with relevant notes, allowing story plans to evolve themselves from primordial seas of seemingly unrelated ideas.

I could do the same in Devonthink with smart groups, of course, and maybe I should start taking better advantage of that feature.

The only drawback in DT is that you can't apply a manual sort to a smart group. I ask much, I know. I have a lot of respect for whoever said too much is never enough. I'm sure they followed the CRIMPing lifestyle.

Tinderbox and queries and agents, oh my, this could at last be the final One True End-All-Be-All Method for story planning.

Do you think it's half the value in function to heptabase?
Heptabase boards have evolved pretty quickly,
Scrintal looks friendly enough,, > but are the data-working features rich enough?

$250 out of pocket to test the two, but damn curious!

satis wrote:

Company blog post on early-access to Scrintal, and discussing the $60/yr
pricing they decided on:

https://blog.scrintal.com/revealing-scrintals-early-access-plan-1fb36a3d0b8f

Article on using Scrintal for research:

https://medium.com/the-scrintalist/researching-a-topic-using-scrintal-500b194b395e

Do you think it's half the value in function to heptabase?
Heptabase boards have evolved pretty quickly,
Scrintal looks friendly enough,, > but are the data-working features rich enough?

$250 out of pocket to test the two, but damn curious!

satis wrote:

Company blog post on early-access to Scrintal, and discussing the $60/yr
pricing they decided on:

https://blog.scrintal.com/revealing-scrintals-early-access-plan-1fb36a3d0b8f

Article on using Scrintal for research:

https://medium.com/the-scrintalist/researching-a-topic-using-scrintal-500b194b395e

bigspud wrote:

Do you think it's half the value in function to heptabase?

I'm unfamiliar with helptabase.

$250 out of pocket to test the two, but damn curious!

If you can get into Scrintal's Early Access it's free until September, then it's $5/month.