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Posted by Dominik Holenstein
Jun 16, 2021 at 09:18 AM
I have just started to give Roam Research another try and I am quite pleased with it and the desktop app on Windows so far:
https://roamresearch.com/
Kind regards,
Dominik
Posted by Dr Andus
Jun 19, 2021 at 01:39 PM
There is no question that Roam is a great app. The question is whether it’s worth $15 a month.
For me it has now replaced WorkFlowy for most things, but I still haven’t made the jump to the paid version (was lucky to get in on the beta, but that limits me to one graph).
I’m still concerned that there is no automatic human-readable export (there are automatic backups now, but those are not human readable or easily importable into other apps).
I just don’t feel they are delivering enough value in terms of features and speed of development that would justify the $15 price tag, and then it’s still for me to remember to make manual exports regularly in order to reduce the risk of data loss.
(I haven’t tried the desktop app, I don’t have a need for it.)
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Jun 19, 2021 at 11:09 PM
Dr Andus, I wonder if Obsidian would be more suited to your needs.
Daly
Dr Andus wrote:
There is no question that Roam is a great app. The question is whether
>it’s worth $15 a month.
>
>For me it has now replaced WorkFlowy for most things, but I still
>haven’t made the jump to the paid version (was lucky to get in on the
>beta, but that limits me to one graph).
>
>I’m still concerned that there is no automatic human-readable export
>(there are automatic backups now, but those are not human readable or
>easily importable into other apps).
>
>I just don’t feel they are delivering enough value in terms of features
>and speed of development that would justify the $15 price tag, and then
>it’s still for me to remember to make manual exports regularly in order
>to reduce the risk of data loss.
>
>(I haven’t tried the desktop app, I don’t have a need for it.)
Posted by Luhmann
Jun 20, 2021 at 06:10 AM
Have you looked at Logseq? It has almost all the same features of Roam and has the two things you like: free and human readable (markdown) files. I wrote a guide for Roam users here:
https://discuss.logseq.com/t/tips-for-former-roam-users/1228
I personally use the desktop version, which can integrate with Obsidian. I wrote a guide for that here:
https://discuss.logseq.com/t/making-obsidian-play-nice-with-logseq/1185
Dr Andus wrote:
There is no question that Roam is a great app. The question is whether
>it’s worth $15 a month.
>
>For me it has now replaced WorkFlowy for most things, but I still
>haven’t made the jump to the paid version (was lucky to get in on the
>beta, but that limits me to one graph).
>
>I’m still concerned that there is no automatic human-readable export
>(there are automatic backups now, but those are not human readable or
>easily importable into other apps).
>
>I just don’t feel they are delivering enough value in terms of features
>and speed of development that would justify the $15 price tag, and then
>it’s still for me to remember to make manual exports regularly in order
>to reduce the risk of data loss.
>
>(I haven’t tried the desktop app, I don’t have a need for it.)
Posted by Dr Andus
Jun 20, 2021 at 10:44 AM
Daly de Gagne wrote:
Dr Andus, I wonder if Obsidian would be more suited to your needs.
>
Luhmann wrote:
Have you looked at Logseq? It has almost all the same features of Roam
>and has the two things you like: free and human readable (markdown)
>files.
Thank you both for the suggestions. Yes, Obsidian and Logseq look and sound great. The reason I haven’t tried them yet because I do actually prefer an online service, so I can seamlessly work across multiple Chromebooks and a Windows machine.
I don’t mind paying for a subscription as such in principle, I’m just annoyed that Roam has not prioritised and implemented automatic exports like WorkFlowy or Dynalist have, and for some reason most of their users don’t seem to worry about this.