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Zenkit Hypernotes - closed beta
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Posted by Lucas
Mar 9, 2021 at 09:19 PM
Zenkit Hypernotes is currently in closed early access, but in the meantime, it’s interesting to see the concept:
https://zenkit.com/en/hypernotes/
Posted by Lucas
Mar 10, 2021 at 02:42 AM
Quick update: A few hours after I posted here, the iOS app was released on the App Store. I was able to log in and use HyperNotes with my existing ZenKit account. I assume the web version will become public very soon.
Posted by Luhmann
Mar 10, 2021 at 07:25 AM
Interesting. They have a lot of key Roam features right off the bat. Other than Noteplan, it is the only such app right now to have a nice mobile app, and unlike NotePlan it is based around hierarchical outlines with transclusion and zooming. The only thing I couldn’t figure out how to do was embed a task in an outline, seems that right now the task list is completely separate?
Posted by Luhmann
Mar 10, 2021 at 07:29 AM
One concern is lock-in. I don’t see any export options right now.
Posted by jsamlarose
Mar 10, 2021 at 12:26 PM
Thanks for posting this! Some first thoughts, having just taken a look:
- Keyboard/mouse bias (“click to start writing” in a new note ). On iOS, that’s disappointing…
- It’s easy to move nodes by touch— makes up for the bias towards keyboards and mice in some of the language…but I haven’t found touch alternatives for some of the more “pro” user controls (e.g. open page in side panel, and many of the graph control keyboard shortcuts…). This is one of the reasons I rarely take on any of the contemporary knowledge management tools (apart from the fact that I’m reasonably happy with my current set-up)— I work between an iPad and a Mac, and up until very recently I was iPad exclusive. I treat my mobile devices as serious work tools so I’m always a little put off when an app doesn’t support mobile devices with feature parity.
- Outliner format. Very cool. Makes use of block-level thinking, organised into pages.
- Breadcrumb works nicely. Also, good set of interface models for content— card style pages layout, a table, daily notes as an area in its own right, tasks also in a separate area/screen, and a graph.
- How to open pages from the graph? Doesn’t seem to work, or is counter-intuitive. Bug?
- Feels like it should come with an example notebook with more sample items in it. Anyone who’s new to this class of app will fail to appreciate the value of the graph until they’ve generated enough linked pages to make the graph meaningful.
- Autocomplete pairs— nice!
- Bit of conflation between tagging (#) and wiki-linking. You can use both… basic guides suggest that wiki-links are for references that include spaces. So tags are essentially pages here.
- Easy to select all nodes in a page and invoke share extension to push content to another app.
- Web clipper (iOS share extension) captures link but not selected text? Creates new page, but can’t see how to add selected content to a new page. And what of images? Also, title of web page doesn’t seem to be auto-detected, so new page is created with URL as a title. Curious to discover the best way to get content into the app (beyond manual typing…)
- Very interested in the notion of publishable pages and the fact that it offers collaborative use from the get-go.
- Easy insertion of block references from /slash command palette. Nice.
- Also easy to upload images, though image doesn’t seem to display inline in the iOS version (bug?)— fine in the web version…