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Ora.pm - Am I missing something?
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Posted by Ken
Dec 30, 2020 at 07:08 AM
I was recently looking at Kanban board apps that could display tasks on a calendar for a short project I am working on. After re-reviewing Ora.pm, I decided to give it a spin despite my initial thought that it was mostly like Trello on steroids. So, after opening an account and getting things set up, I was trying out the sample board and wanted to delete a task. I have looked high and low and through their help documentation and it appears that there is no delete command or icon for tasks. I believe that the only option is to archive the board where the task resides, and then you can delete the board from there. This is not unlike Trello which makes it almost impossible to delete boards. I can understand in a multi-user environment that you do not want people deleting things willy nilly, but can’t this be handled with a global setting? It seems crazy that if you create something by accident, or do not need a record of it, that it cannot be easily deleted. Did I miss something, or is there some logic to this type of design that merits such tight controls that even a solo user cannot easily delete items?
—Ken
Posted by satis
Dec 30, 2020 at 05:01 PM
You have it right with Ora, you archive then delete from the Archive section.
It’s common for deletions not to really be deletions in modern apps. UX research in apps consistently finds that people constantly accidentally delete tasks, notes and pictures they didn’t mean to. There’s not much downside for normal apps and normal users for their deletions to be shunted somewhere, and it makes the UI cleaner and more comprehensible for workers who aren’t hardcore users.
Apple implements this as well, in a slightly different way: notes in Apple Notes can be ‘deleted’ but actually are put in a 30-day holding bin (from which they can be undeleted) before the system auto-deletes them, same for iPhone pictures.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Dec 30, 2020 at 06:13 PM
You might want to look at ClickUp. It is full-featured project and task manager that can display your project as a Kan Ban board or in a calendar. And it even lets you delete tasks.
Posted by Ken
Dec 31, 2020 at 03:16 AM
satis wrote:
You have it right with Ora, you archive then delete from the Archive
>section.
>
>It’s common for deletions not to really be deletions in modern apps. UX
>research in apps consistently finds that people constantly accidentally
>delete tasks, notes and pictures they didn’t mean to. There’s not much
>downside for normal apps and normal users for their deletions to be
>shunted somewhere, and it makes the UI cleaner and more comprehensible
>for workers who aren’t hardcore users.
>
>Apple implements this as well, in a slightly different way: notes in
>Apple Notes can be ‘deleted’ but actually are put in a 30-day holding
>bin (from which they can be undeleted) before the system auto-deletes
>them, same for iPhone pictures.
>
>
Well, I’ll give credit to where credit is due. Apple’s approach makes great sense. Eliminating the delete command does not.
—Ken
Posted by Ken
Dec 31, 2020 at 03:21 AM
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
You might want to look at ClickUp. It is full-featured project and task
>manager that can display your project as a Kan Ban board or in a
>calendar. And it even lets you delete tasks.
I have actually been using ClickUp for some time, mostly for managing tasks and information for a number of complex projects at work. I have been using KanbanFlow for simple stuff and love its easy UI. What I wanted to find was something similar, but with the ability to show a calendar or some type of basic timeline. Ora offered it, and I thought I would give it a real trial. I could try and create a stripped down version on ClickUp, but I was hoping for something that did not need to be stripped. I am just surprised that Ora did not offer the ability to delete tasks. It seems like such a basic command.
—Ken