Dynalist Pro is offering a 50% discount on its Pro level

https://dynalist.io/pricing?promo=XMAS19

I got that email yesterday. It's their yearly offer, though it's a little surprising they didn't offer it around Black Friday.

I'm conflicted, because I think $48 a fair value at that 50% off price (a price that 'early bird' users were able to lock into for life back in 2017), but I don't want to have to migrate my lists when it pops back up to $96/yr next December. (And they've not permitted users to take two discount deals in a row.)

The full price is double of the WorkFlowy Pro subscription.

But is it doubly as good as WorkFlowy?

I wish I could have both, and at $48 I would be willing, but paying $48 + $96 just feels too much.

Maybe they are missing a trick, not targeting WorkFlowy users who already bought into the concept (and so would be the ideal customers) but would want to also keep their WorkFlowy subscription...

Their free plan is very generous, but I too think they should have a mid-range option for students and others who would like to pay for more but can't afford the full plan. I think a lot of people are simply turned off by the high price and don't even try the free option because it seems like one could never afford to move up - even if you ended up liking the app. A mid-range price would help encourage more people to stay. I tried to convince them of this but the developers were not persuaded. I guess if it is working for them then who am I to tell them otherwise? I'm lucky that I got the early bird pricing so I can't complain...

Dynalist offers a 50% discount to students, renewable yearly.

https://help.dynalist.io/article/117-student-discount

Luhmann wrote:

I too think they should have a
mid-range option for students and others who would like to pay for more
but can't afford the full plan.

Good to know. Thanks.

This is where they shoot themselves in the foot. I'm macOS only. For $50 per year I can have Omnioutliner or purchase a traditional licence for $100. Even at the old Omni prices it would still work out cheaper than $96 per year. Plus I always feel bad with subscriptions as I come away with nothing. Omnioutliner if way more powerful that Dynalist in my experience. Their syncing is great and it works with a family licence. And I'm getting a fully native app.

I own OmniOutliner Pro on Mac and iOS. Even still I forked out for Dynalist. With all the benefits of being a native application OO should be so much better than it is. Yet Dynalist runs rings around it for quality of life features such as wiki linking, markdown and date integration.

OmniGroup need to rethink their approach to OO which has stagnated for far too long.

For Windows users, Omni Outliner is not an option; thus, the need for Dynalist and others like it.

If I use Dynalist every day, and it becomes an integral part of my workflow, the yearly subscription fee is negligible. Given the "nichiness" of this market (it's easy to assume it's a big market since everyone *here* talks about it), I imagine that the Dynalist developers realized they couldn't sustain and grow their business - let alone make a decent profit - by charging a one-off fee to a small group of users. They seem to have found enough users willing to pay a subscription fee, so good for them.

OmniOutliner was one of the first apps I bought when I switched to Mac over a decade ago. I almost never use it. It feels more like an app I would use to create nice looking documents to impress my colleagues rather than a serious place to do serious outlining. I use Dynalist every day for a variety of purposes ranging from my digital bullet journal to keeping relevant contacts at hand.

I'm not hating on OmniOutliner. It is what it is. But if Dynalist were not available, I would use Workflowy or Outlinely or Checkvist before I would use OO. I just don't find it very useful for nitty gritty daily outlining.

I agree. Dynalist and OmniOutliner are both outliners, but there are significant differences in their feature sets. Also, Dynalist appears to be under more active development than OO.

Drewster wrote:

I own OmniOutliner Pro on Mac and iOS. Even still I forked out for
Dynalist. With all the benefits of being a native application OO should
be so much better than it is. Yet Dynalist runs rings around it for
quality of life features such as wiki linking, markdown and date
integration.

OmniGroup need to rethink their approach to OO which has stagnated for
far too long.

Drewster wrote:

I own OmniOutliner Pro on Mac and iOS. Even still I forked out for
Dynalist. With all the benefits of being a native application OO should
be so much better than it is. Yet Dynalist runs rings around it for
quality of life features such as wiki linking, markdown and date
integration.

OmniGroup need to rethink their approach to OO which has stagnated for
far too long.

Wow, my thoughts are exactly the opposite. Omnioutliner does linking as well as Dynalist, it does dates. It also has columns, does some calculations. Leaves Dynalist in the dust when it comes to styling your content. Allows you to record audio, embeds or links to documents and displays them inline. Has a very powerful filter facility that allows you to set your filter criteria and save that filter. So if you have a document for example, that contains meeting minutes with a column showing if an action is incomplete, you can filter and only see the lines with incomplete actions in the whole document. Sync is extremely solid, or you can use icloud. You can increase the % size of the whole outline almost infinitely so if you need to teach or present from the document you can make it large enough. It exports to many formats, etc, etc...

As much as I liked Dynalist, and appreciate it's OS ubiquity, if you're in the macOS eco system I wouldn't dream of replacing Omnioutliner with Dynalist, not to mention that Dynalist is more expensive. Dynalist simply isn't as feature rich, which you would expect from a web app.