There has been discussion of collaboration software here recently. I just came across one I hadn't heard of before and I couldn't find that it had been discussed here previously. It's called Notejoy and it looks pretty nice, just judging from this intro video:

https://youtu.be/n-sFU2ijFYw

It looks like a nice note manager with clients for Mac, Windows and iOS, but the premium version is a bit pricey for single-person use. It is worth looking into if you need collaboration, I think.

Steve Z.

Looks similar to Notion.

Looks nice. Pretty simple though. That's a really nice change-log at the folder level though to make collaboration much smoother. You are spot on, this would be good for collaborating with a mixed group of people. I hesitate to collaborate with OneNote and Notion because my workflow with note-taking software has evolved for over a decade while 98% of coworkers don't even recognize a use for this category. Therefore I keep my idiosyncratic workflows to myself rather than trying to 'convert' the uninterested. Collaborating with a dumbed-down thing like this would be a decent compromise since you have no choice but to keep it simple. Then maybe after a few people see the light, they might want something more robust. At that point I'd invite them to collaborate with my overly-intricate notion database and freak out when they break it. Then keep it to myself again.

Now with tags:
https://notejoy.com/releases?id=157

I just got an email from the developer announcing a 50% off sale:

https://notejoy.com/promos/cyber-monday?utm_source=promo&utm_campaign=cyber-2018&utm_medium=email

FYI I haven't subscribed, but it is tempting.

Steve Z.

Looking at Notejoy again today I noticed that they recently added a "Solo" plan, for people who don't need collaboration. It's $4 per month, which seems very reasonable. Some features of Notejoy that appeal to me:

- In addition to the web interface, there are native versions for Mac, iOS, Windows and Android, and they all look exactly alike
- You can password protect individual notes
- Notejoy uses markdown for formatting
- There is a Trello power-up, so you can attach Notejoy notes to Trello cards

One caveat: Notejoy needs to be connected to the internet to show you your notes. Offline capability is planned, but I don't know when. Here's the list of planned feature additions:

https://notejoy.com/feature-requests

But all in all, Notejoy seems like a viable alternative to Evernote (an Evernote importer is in the works).

Steve Z.

That's a positive step but

• it's the same price as the multi-user Black Friday price
• it's got half the library storage of multi-user account
• it's got half the file upload size of multi-user account

Also

• still no export to PDF (which should be easy given the hooks in iOS and macOS)
• no drag-and-drop text
• slow search
• no E2E encryption

• no OneNote/Evernote import (should have been a v.1 priority)
• you cannot edit notifications
• severely limited typography (not uncommon, unfortunately)

Just to clarify, Notejoy does use encryption. From their website:

"Notejoy protects your data through robust encryption. All web, desktop, and mobile clients leverage SSL/TLS 1.2 to communicate with Notejoy's servers, ensuring all data is encrypted in transit. Data stored in Notejoy's database is encrypted at rest using industry standard AES-256. All data backups are also similarly encrypted. Encryption keys are stored independently from the underlying encrypted data and files to further protect user data."

But, yes, they don't offer full end-to-end encryption in the Solo plan:

"Notejoy Premium offers full end-to-end encryption, with additional encryption for all user-uploaded images and attachments."

Satis, what makes you say "slow search"? Notejoy folks boast about their fast search. See here:

https://notejoy.com/help/notejoy-search

I haven't got enough notes in there to test their claims, but I'm wondering why you doubt them.

Evernote and OneNote imports are in the works and should be available soon.

Notejoy is barely a year old. It is evolving constantly. It is already a fairly robust app at this point, and I expect it to continue to improve.

Steve Z.


satis wrote:

• slow search

• no OneNote/Evernote import (should have been a v.1 priority)
• you cannot edit notifications
• severely limited typography (not uncommon, unfortunately)

Anyone here actually paying subscription for this thing?

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

Satis, what makes you say "slow search"?

Search while typing remains on the TBD page for the app.

Got it.

I don't have a lot of notes in there, but as soon as I hit enter the list of entries matching the search string pops up immediately. But it doesn't roll through the search while typing.

satis wrote:

Stephen Zeoli wrote:
> Satis, what makes you say "slow search"?

Search while typing remains on the TBD page for the app.

I am. So far I like Notejoy a lot. Sure, it is a work in progress, but the developers have made good progress and I expect it to continue.

washere wrote:

Anyone here actually paying subscription for this thing?

Thanks for calling attention to this app. It looks interesting, but also like many an app that has come before it. I always want to try these apps for gathering information, but never seem to find an actual need. Nonetheless, I'll give it a look when time permits.

Thanks,

--Ken

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

Evernote and OneNote imports are in the works and should be available
soon.

Import from Evernote is now available
https://notejoy.com/help/import-evernote

Hierarchical tags done the wrong way. Tagging with a child tag must imply tagging with parent tag, otherwise it's just nonsense. This concept feels so natural to me so that I just can't image how would you come up with the "tagging with child doesn't tag with parent" scheme. Maybe there's a feature request for it, I don't know. Haven't dig their help/forums, just did a quick register to check it out. I'm surprised that it's not the only app with such a weird tagging scheme. I've also tried out Singularity task manager, it's done the same way there. Obsidian, Amplenote have it implemented the right way, for example.