Evernote improvements
Started by marlowe
on 10/5/2018
marlowe
10/5/2018 1:30 pm
They released a templates feature and upped the notebook limit to 1,000. I think the company is moving in a positive direction recently and starting to listen to users. Maybe too little, too late, but I think the tech blogs have been unfair over the past couple of months, and I wanted to point out the positives. I'm aware of the issues around price, missteps with new features, etc, but since the move to Google Cloud Network, I think reliability, stability, and security have greatly improved from the perspective of someone who has had an account and used it on and off for about eight years.
Ruud Hein
10/6/2018 11:49 am
That's really nice, the expansion to 1000 notebooks.
Given that notebook information is not stored in the ENEX export, I still use Filterize to automatically add a notebook-specific tag to notes. This was an enex import can still be filtered back to my notebook structure.
Another option to keep notebook structure (or actually, to restore it) is with http://evernote.onenotegem.com/
Given that notebook information is not stored in the ENEX export, I still use Filterize to automatically add a notebook-specific tag to notes. This was an enex import can still be filtered back to my notebook structure.
Another option to keep notebook structure (or actually, to restore it) is with http://evernote.onenotegem.com/
WSP
10/6/2018 7:49 pm
Thanks for the Gem link. It led me on to another intriguing add-in, WordNote [https://wordnote.onenotegem.com/] described as a "OneNote 2019 alternative." It costs $19.
Has any here tried it out yet?
Has any here tried it out yet?
Ruud Hein
10/6/2018 10:28 pm
Well, that's cute. You can download the trial from the download tab.
It adds two side panels to Word, making it act a little bit like OneNote. Pages are saved as Word docs.
Extensions for browsers are available on the downloads page as well.
Some screenshots:
Explorer look https://wordnote.onenotegem.com/uploads/8/5/1/8/8518752/2018-10-01-19-19-51_1_orig.gif
Tag pane https://wordnote.onenotegem.com/uploads/8/5/1/8/8518752/2018-10-02-17-19-43_1_orig.gif
It adds two side panels to Word, making it act a little bit like OneNote. Pages are saved as Word docs.
Extensions for browsers are available on the downloads page as well.
Some screenshots:
Explorer look https://wordnote.onenotegem.com/uploads/8/5/1/8/8518752/2018-10-01-19-19-51_1_orig.gif
Tag pane https://wordnote.onenotegem.com/uploads/8/5/1/8/8518752/2018-10-02-17-19-43_1_orig.gif
WSP
10/6/2018 11:26 pm
I hadn't spotted the trial. Thanks. I'll give it a spin this weekend.
WSP
10/7/2018 1:58 pm
OK, I've now taken a very superficial look at WordNote, and here are my thoughts.
It does the job, more or less, but I wouldn't find much pleasure in using it. When you open it for the first time, it barks out the command that you must install Adobe Acrobat. It's exceptionally ugly on the screen. It changes certain default settings in Word that persist the next time you open Word. Some of the instructions are in imperfect English that's difficult to understand.
It strikes me that you could *almost* achieve the same results in Word alone by using heading styles and improvised tags, though, as far as I know, it's not possible to search across multiple files from within Word. That would certainly not be an ideal note-taking system, but it would probably work for a small project. At least I think it would be preferable to this awkward add-in.
It does the job, more or less, but I wouldn't find much pleasure in using it. When you open it for the first time, it barks out the command that you must install Adobe Acrobat. It's exceptionally ugly on the screen. It changes certain default settings in Word that persist the next time you open Word. Some of the instructions are in imperfect English that's difficult to understand.
It strikes me that you could *almost* achieve the same results in Word alone by using heading styles and improvised tags, though, as far as I know, it's not possible to search across multiple files from within Word. That would certainly not be an ideal note-taking system, but it would probably work for a small project. At least I think it would be preferable to this awkward add-in.
Ruud Hein
10/8/2018 12:24 am
I agree. It's not the most elegantly implemented solution.
The cross document search is a nice touch.
It's a good "OneNote" proof of concept but not super fast, not super light.
As a proof of concept I like it, and I think other applications could go along a similar route. Lots of people like the way OneNote lays out its data.
Would be interesting to see something like this with plain txt, possibly markdown support.
The cross document search is a nice touch.
It's a good "OneNote" proof of concept but not super fast, not super light.
As a proof of concept I like it, and I think other applications could go along a similar route. Lots of people like the way OneNote lays out its data.
Would be interesting to see something like this with plain txt, possibly markdown support.
WSP
10/8/2018 1:41 pm
You're very generous in your appraisal. If I sounded slightly grumpy, it's because they're asking $19 for an app that's extremely unpolished and in an essentially unfinished state.
You asked about similar apps. I've been a loyal user of MyInfo for many years. It does not support markdown, but the layout is very similar to OneNote's: a column of hierarchical note titles on the left and (if you have more than one notebook open) a series of file-folder-type labels across the top. It's possible to search across multiple notebooks, and notes can be easily exported to RTF or HTML. The tagging system is also excellent. But the two features of OneNote that are most conspicuously missing: the ability to create notes on a phone or tablet; and searching for words that occur in images of text (such as newspaper clippings).
Though the development of MyInfo moves slowly, I've always found it solid and reliable.
You asked about similar apps. I've been a loyal user of MyInfo for many years. It does not support markdown, but the layout is very similar to OneNote's: a column of hierarchical note titles on the left and (if you have more than one notebook open) a series of file-folder-type labels across the top. It's possible to search across multiple notebooks, and notes can be easily exported to RTF or HTML. The tagging system is also excellent. But the two features of OneNote that are most conspicuously missing: the ability to create notes on a phone or tablet; and searching for words that occur in images of text (such as newspaper clippings).
Though the development of MyInfo moves slowly, I've always found it solid and reliable.
Alexander Deliyannis
10/12/2018 8:15 pm
Thank you, fully agreed.
I've been using Evernote since September 2009. I collect anything I find interesting without giving it a second thought, either through my PC or my phone; the latter has changed several times, but there's always a compatible Evernote app. I have now 28,000+ notes. On countless occasions, in the context of conversations, I've remembered something relevant and found it on my phone in a matter of minutes. I've never encountered syncing issues or data loss.
I am not saying that Evernote is perfect, but it's one of the most long lasting artifacts in my toolbox. And I am very happy that the current CEO has narrowed the company focus to what the software does best: collect, index and find, wherever.
marlowe wrote:
I've been using Evernote since September 2009. I collect anything I find interesting without giving it a second thought, either through my PC or my phone; the latter has changed several times, but there's always a compatible Evernote app. I have now 28,000+ notes. On countless occasions, in the context of conversations, I've remembered something relevant and found it on my phone in a matter of minutes. I've never encountered syncing issues or data loss.
I am not saying that Evernote is perfect, but it's one of the most long lasting artifacts in my toolbox. And I am very happy that the current CEO has narrowed the company focus to what the software does best: collect, index and find, wherever.
marlowe wrote:
They released a templates feature and upped the notebook limit to 1,000.
I think the company is moving in a positive direction recently and
starting to listen to users. Maybe too little, too late, but I think the
tech blogs have been unfair over the past couple of months, and I wanted
to point out the positives. I'm aware of the issues around price,
missteps with new features, etc, but since the move to Google Cloud
Network, I think reliability, stability, and security have greatly
improved from the perspective of someone who has had an account and used
it on and off for about eight years.
