This reference to the One-pane Organizer gives me a feeling of awe; like "Those We Don't Speak Of" ("The Village") , or "Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken" (Harry Potter), ...

Polywick Studio wrote:

The One-pane Organizer's Launch System is totally unique.
There's nothing like it, in the market, or any off-the-shelf
library available. It had to be custom-made.

After months of painstaking work, this is shown in full glory —

https://medium.com/@polywickstudio/storyserver-preview-12-b100-the-second-one-pane-grid-column-widths-and-more-317fe022476

Looks good.

StoryServer — Development Diary 13 — Search Engine, Finishing Slang’s work on Bookmarks, Help-Updates, and more!
https://medium.com/@polywickstudio/storyserver-development-diary-13-search-engine-finishing-slangs-work-on-bookmarks-extended-f8d13d99f240

Help Documentation
The help documentation has been significantly beefed-up. The search feature has immediate key-word search, so it’s super-fast and full-text.

The Toolbar System from Hell
The developers spent ages, erm…, days trying to figure out how this one-pane toolbar system worked, and tried to make a ridiculously hard toolbar system work.

Unique Bookmark Images and Sub-Menu
If you, the reader, use EccoExt, all the toolbar buttons for bookmark uses 1 image. In StoryServer. each menu-item is give a unique button.
The sub-menu is made into a button, so you can either place multiple toolbar buttons to set Set Bookmark [1], [2], [3] or use the main sub-menu button.

Documentation:
https://storyserver.polywickstudio.ph/ss/index.html

Is there a beta where we can take part of?

Enhanced exporters
The export facility is beefed-up so that mail-merge for Word is easier. Instead of guessing around the list of folders, there is a way to immediately add a folder to Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Text and mail-merge.
This simplifies the export facility to target multiple applications, and no need to save/load templates, forms, outline, layout (etc.) repeatedly


Free Mind Export
FreeMind is better supported. This allows export of all folders or selected folders.



Better XP Compatibility
Almost all Windows 10 features are back-ported (via code-emulation) to Windows XP. This allows users who are using Wine, CrossOver, Parallels, VMWare (via virtual machine) to have better experience in OSX and Linux.



For more details see:
https://medium.com/@polywickstudio/story-server-development-diary-14-enhanced-exporters-freemind-mustache-templates-xp-9af451c6aec7

In lack of a alpha test version, i have to ask: can the items in the grid contain text with multiple lines?

I doubt that you will get an answer, I didn't get one either...

Maybe Polywick will surprise everyone, but I doubt anything will come of his "project", if it even exists in a form other than posts made here and on medium.com.

tightbeam wrote:

Maybe Polywick will surprise everyone, but I doubt anything will come of
his "project", if it even exists in a form other than posts made here
and on medium.com.

Has been smelling fishy to me too for a long time. Seems just like Photoshoped images in his "multimedia studio".

If any members here, not some new name, get a beta emailed to them as he just offered after requesting it please let us know.

Otherwise after a week if no one gets an actual beta as he just offered, someone might contact medium.com mods to read this thread and remove his posts. Might be just another internet scam out of Philippines.

TightBeam, r634718 , and Washere:

Prove it that this is "photoshopped" as you claim it to be. The code behind for the screens are present. subpoena us for the source code so you can inspect it.

Show which image was "photoshopped", since many screenshots of the app was made for documentation purposes (help file).

Otherwise after a week if no one gets an actual beta as he just offered,
someone might contact medium.com mods to read this thread and remove his
posts. Might be just another internet scam out of Philippines.

And the other apps listed on the forums? They have had lengthy beta-test times, some more than a year of no development, and how come they are not scams?

The apps which the authors abandon their development, how come they are not scams, which cannot do a one-pane outliner?

StoryServer was made in development for a very long time. There was much time figuring out the Print, Filters, Sum, Sort, Column commands.

You have no idea as to the difficulty of the work that is being done, and all the complexity to make a one-pane organizer.

Go ahead and do it, we'll file a counter-claim and that will trigger a full lawsuit, if that's what you want.

@Washere, you'd do well to state your real name now, since this is now slander and untowards of the spirit of this website.

I could venture an opinion here.

So I'm a software engineer. I've written about, oh, 5 or so prototypes of my own started-out-as-an-EccoPro-clone App, 3 in Adobe AIR, 1 in Unity, and then I ventured forth into Electron (I know that sounds confusing).

This is me, btw, so you know I'm on the level here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sh0rtwave/

From a particular perspective(especially these days with much more powerful development systems available), EccoPro is a *trivially* easy thing to duplicate(I oughta know, I've built multiple applications that *vastly* exceed it's power). It's data structures, and methods of operation, database-wise, while functional and legitimately still useful, remain dated, and problems that plagued it have long since been solved by more sophisticated applications.

So, what I would like to see, that I would find useful (as I was just using EccoPro just last November), is if your application can truly handle data in excess of the limits of the original EccoPro. Show me that, and I will get behind you 100%. It's entirely possible, that if you can show me that, I'd buy a copy, I actually got excited when I saw your screenshots, and you should know that I did get excited, in spite of the fact that I've written many more powerfully-scoped things (https://imgur.com/XAetnsS full lawsuit, if that's what you want.

@Washere, you'd do well to state your real name now, since this is now
slander and untowards of the spirit of this website.

Come on, Polywick Studio.

You are here as a guest (as we all are).

People come here to share tips and tricks and how-to information. You come here and dump marketing fluff - in my eyes you misuse the forum in a way no other software developer does. And then you talk about lawsuits?

Why don't you make alpha or beta versions of your software available to those who asked here in the past?

Polywick Studio wrote:

Blahblahblah

I'm not going to give my name, or other details, to someone in Philippines or Nigeria etc. Both centers of internet scamming. Many teen-agers committed suicide after finding out the romantic interest who got their nude photos was not a young person in Midwest, but organized gangs in Philippines where you are. They also do scam investment schemes for various projects.

You post here. You tell medium.com your posts here justify your legitimacy. Here you tell us your posts on medium justify you.

I'm not going to believe any Photoshoped images or animation videos.

I'm not going to give you my name, or anyone elses in Philippines or Nigeria, nor other details.

You never replied to those here who asked for proof. You ignored those gentle souls questions to you completely.

Because, whatever is the case, you were not brought up properly and think ignoring those honest people is clever. It's not clever to be rude and disrespectful. That's what business is about, trustworthiness and how to detect it. You ignored all those people here. It showed me your don't respect them.

You asked for beta requests. People sent requests from here.

You did not send a single beta to any of them here.

You lied, again.

YOU DID NOT SEND A SINGLE BETA.

So sign of a scam.

Even if you put out something, it could easily be a phishing app and keyboard logger and drive scanner sending private data to Philippines.

@washere

For the sake of comity, not to mention accuracy, you might consider making your points here, however valid they may be, without resorting to casting aspersions that evoke borderline racist/colonialist tropes. Why not demonstrate by example the civility of someone who, apparently, was "brought up properly"?

That being said, yes, I too have had major doubts about the software since it was first mentioned, and I think it's fair to suggest that without an alpha or beta, the claims cannot be taken very seriously.

Lucas wrote:

@washere

For the sake of comity, not to mention accuracy, you might consider
making your points here, however valid they may be, without resorting to
casting aspersions that evoke borderline racist/colonialist tropes. Why
not demonstrate by example the civility of someone who, apparently, was
"brought up properly"?

That being said, yes, I too have had major doubts about the software
since it was first mentioned, and I think it's fair to suggest that
without an alpha or beta, the claims cannot be taken very seriously.

@lucas

i) It's just facts, figures and statistics. Nigeria and Philippines are the centers of internet fraud gangs. From ransom to blackmail to investment schemes scams.

ii) You nor him are addressing any of the ACTUAL POINTS & ISSUES I raised:

1) Never mind disrespecting members here as others stated. Why he avoids most questions? Even basic questions?

2) Why he gathers emails, and in my case asks for actual name and details, and does not even reply?

3) Why he does not send the beta as he promised?

4) Why is he hiding behind an anonymous registered domain?

5) As he expects people and companies to trust their business & life (data) to his program: What are his company's actual details?

AND MORE. I will bring up these numbered VITAL ISSUES again here if need be.

You are just diverting from these points by attacking me personally.

iii) Racist? You are, because I never thought he is a Philippino. His tone comes across as though he is an expat and since the beginning I assumed he is a westerner there. I still do.

You are also very foolish to assume my race as your started or maybe the race of my wife and children either.

So his race never occurred to me, I assumed he's a European who settled there actually since the start as I've met many such. The racism only exists in your own mind.

iv) Civility? This is the timeline:

I only questioned why he disrespects those asking simple questions, as did others, and why he makes false promises while gathering people's emails and does not do as he promised. Not even reply to them (after his phishing emails). Others pointed out this improper pattern of behavior too.

He then personally attacked me and asked for my details and legal full name.

He did not answer any of the vital questions (enumerated above) and diverted.

So you are saying all of us who thought and said here this is not proper, are idiots who themselves were not brought up properly as you put in quotes.

You did not answer any of the ACTUAL QUESTIONS about his false promises while he's gathering personal emails and asking for personal data from me here either and you merely personally attacked me. Thanks Lucas, very logical and decent of you!

Civility? Again the problem is in your own mind and words as proven.

QED.

@washere

Not to worry, I am not attacking you personally, nor am I accusing you of anything, nor am I challenging your assertions about Polywick Story Server. I simply invited you to reflect on how your post could be interpreted and to demonstrate the civility you found lacking on Polywick's part. This is a friendly forum, which is part of what makes it valuable. I also found Polywick's legal threats rather absurd, so I understand where you're coming from.

This is what you get when you post techy babble and then don't answer questions from people genuinely interested in your software - but you sure are quick to reply to skeptics.

Your legal threats are as laughable as your vaporware. So far all you've created is a bad impression with some of the people on this forum. Let's see you shoot your other foot.



Polywick Studio wrote:

TightBeam, r634718 , and Washere:

Prove it that this is "photoshopped" as you claim it to be. The code
behind for the screens are present. subpoena us for the source code so
you can inspect it.

Show which image was "photoshopped", since many screenshots of the app
was made for documentation purposes (help file).

>Otherwise after a week if no one gets an actual beta as he just
offered,
>someone might contact medium.com mods to read this thread and remove
his
>posts. Might be just another internet scam out of Philippines.

And the other apps listed on the forums? They have had lengthy beta-test
times, some more than a year of no development, and how come they are
not scams?

The apps which the authors abandon their development, how come they are
not scams, which cannot do a one-pane outliner?

StoryServer was made in development for a very long time. There was much
time figuring out the Print, Filters, Sum, Sort, Column commands.

You have no idea as to the difficulty of the work that is being done,
and all the complexity to make a one-pane organizer.

Go ahead and do it, we'll file a counter-claim and that will trigger a
full lawsuit, if that's what you want.

@Washere, you'd do well to state your real name now, since this is now
slander and untowards of the spirit of this website.

Lucas wrote:

@washere

Not to worry, I am not attacking you personally, nor am I accusing you
of anything, nor am I challenging your assertions about Polywick Story
Server. I simply invited you to reflect on how your post could be
interpreted and to demonstrate the civility you found lacking on
Polywick's part. This is a friendly forum, which is part of what makes
it valuable. I also found Polywick's legal threats rather absurd, so I
understand where you're coming from.

@Lucas

No Origen and no offence taken. I can take care of myself but plenty of people who often fall victim far too easily. My motivation was/is only to point out safeguard measures. In Americas or Europe or places like Japan Taiwan Singapore etc, you can rest assured no company can get away with abuses as some do in other territories.

It's a matter of proper legal systems in force and in which territories in case abuse takes place. I would advise anyone before installing any .exe to have details of a proper legal entity, i.e. names of Person(s) and/or Company as source prior to doing so.

Good luck.

Usual Gboard keyboard app swipe auto-typo: No origen > No problem

@washere, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification

@Polywick Studio,

please take an advise from a fellow small independent software developer who is in the same market niche as you.

You are not doing yourself a favour acting and writing like this. As a single developer and believe me people will find out very very fast how small and credible your company is, the most important is to build trust. And remember that this postings are here to stay and google will return them for a long time. All i've seen so far from you is not a single sign of competence in the field of programming but instead i see a choleric reaction to (future) user feedback and narcism on the programming side (no you are not cool if you use UTF7 and DDE for program communication. This is not the 1990ths). This is not what you want.

@Bobby Parker
I do not agree with you that the data structures and the code is trivial, not more then almost any other webbased app. There are still features that are unique to old software and uncopied even if genius because they are hard to implement and to detailed for the sales guys. For Ecco it is for example the possibility of multi values in the column row. For spreadshirts like Improv (release date 1990) it is the dropping of letter-number addressed cells and pivot tables, for AskSam (1994) it is the mixing of formated fields inside normal text, for Lotus Agenda it is the automatic assigned hierachical tagging system, for Spreadsheet 2000 it is .... well the whole fucking program. I find that most SAAS web based apps are throwing us back to the 1980ths functionality but with great GUIs.

So yes a modern implemented EccoPro could have some market share, surely enough to feed a family on the phillippines.

@Bobby Parker
I do not agree with you that the data structures and the code is
trivial, not more then almost any other webbased app. There are still
features that are unique to old software and uncopied even if genius
because they are hard to implement and to detailed for the sales guys.
For Ecco it is for example the possibility of multi values in the column
row. For spreadshirts like Improv (release date 1990) it is the dropping
of letter-number addressed cells and pivot tables, for AskSam (1994) it
is the mixing of formated fields inside normal text, for Lotus Agenda it
is the automatic assigned hierachical tagging system, for Spreadsheet
2000 it is .... well the whole fucking program. I find that most SAAS
web based apps are throwing us back to the 1980ths functionality but
with great GUIs.

Sometimes you gotta take a few steps back, to go forward.

...but yes. I'm sorry to sound arrogant, or insulting, but I honestly do mean it. EccoPro is, fundamentally, a simple graph database(presented as an outliner), with (probably) an extra tree overlaid with links to the columns for the notes. It's really *not* that complicated.

I've written, and used, a fair number of tools, that demonstrate all of these capabilities. In the context of the current fields of application development in which I normally work (Satellite data, retail email/ecommerce data in the hundreds of millions of records, scientific publication/journal attribution tracking(hundreds of thousands of scientific publications), 3D automated modelling & data visualization generation, data analytics, regulatory support information systems (search engines indexing *billions* of PDFs from court systems across the country),
so forth, so on), the tools & systems I use, while mostly existing server-side, are more than capable of putting anything on that list of features together at varying rates of rapidity.


TO BE HONEST, however: We exist in a time of computing, where if you can show an experienced enough developer a picture, he can design, and build for you, an application that will look and behave exactly as you want. If he can't, you can probably find someone else. As one of these 'experienced developers', I find his claims to be specious, without backing evidence. That it's taken him years to build his functionality, that's immaterial. I've been working on my copy for nearly 10 years, and it's still not out.

IF, his project is real, I will heartily applaud him. IF NOT, well...why is he wasting our time?

This is not to denigrate anyone's effort. A lot of this is subjective, depending heavily upon the experience of: The engineer, the entire team, the engineer's ability to lead, etc.

If it's just one developer, it's a lot more on that person (psychologically), to take the risk of publishing ANYTHING for use, free or paid, because they basically have to be the whole team. And while some people manage to pull that off, it's a huge risk to almost everyone, personally, because the exposure of one's intellectual-self in the form of software, is one of THE most dangerous things an intelligent, creative person can ever do.

All I am asking this good gentleman, is to present me with a video, that demonstrates his tools capabilities to exceed the original capabilities of EccoPro. I don't really think that's too hard.

And just as an aside, I can reproduce EccoPro's database functionality...using Drupal.

Our business address is here on the website.
You can't see it or are you intent on slandering us?
https://www.polywickstudio.com/contact


Our company is registered (SEC CS201802998) and you can search for it here:
https://secexpress.ph/application-form


There's documentation on code-signing already -
https://storyserver.polywickstudio.ph/ss/security-issues.html


Please stop your lies and fabrications. You are telling nonsense.