ok anything for this basic need in regards to tree view of folders/files on the side -- likely the most important basic need overall

Started by doablesoftware on 4/6/2018
doablesoftware 4/6/2018 9:59 am
1. tree view of folders/files on the side

2. **able to bold the text so you can see the bolded text**

3. white background

4. text is centered on the page/typing area

these 4 basic things needed

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this one is a plus but not absolutely needed,

* basically nothing else on the screen (clean visually minimal UI)


MadaboutDana 4/6/2018 12:00 pm
If it wasn't for your centred text thing, I'd say iaWriter. Similar very powerful, simple apps include TextNut (which does Markdown and RTF ad hoc) and MWeb, but they're Mac/iOS only.
Stephen Zeoli 4/6/2018 1:04 pm
If you're talking about typewriter mode when you say center text on page, then I'd suggest that Write satisfies your requirements. It is available for Windows and MacOS. Here's the website link:

https://writeapp.co/

Steve Z.
doablesoftware 4/6/2018 9:10 pm
iawrite - on https://ia.net/writer/about/ and under 'Document Library' section it looks like a list of files/notes instead, can you confirm?

trial had expired and used it only a few times, i remembered vaguely it did something weird with links..


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'typewriter mode' - oh sorry about that, i'd have said something like 'centering the text while you're typing'

this is just that the text is centered on your screen when in fullscreen or maxed window -- for example on the text on this page -- https://writeapp.co/about

the demo video does confirm it has the tree view/structure of notes/files tho

how did you first hear about this one?

looks like you cant change the font size in any way? that's highly limiting -- on https://writeapp.co/help -- under 'editor'
Stephen Zeoli 4/7/2018 10:59 am
I am still not sure I quite understand your question about "centering the text on the screen." But if you mean can you go full screen and not have the text jammed up against the left edge, yes.

Also, you can zoom in and out to adjust how large the text looks on the screen.

I can't remember how I first heard of Write. Probably on this forum, or maybe I did a search for text editors that work on both Windows and MacOS.


doablesoftware wrote:
iawrite - on https://ia.net/writer/about/ and under 'Document Library'
section it looks like a list of files/notes instead, can you confirm?

trial had expired and used it only a few times, i remembered vaguely it
did something weird with links..


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'typewriter mode' - oh sorry about that, i'd have said something like
'centering the text while you're typing'

this is just that the text is centered on your screen when in fullscreen
or maxed window -- for example on the text on this page --
https://writeapp.co/about

the demo video does confirm it has the tree view/structure of
notes/files tho

how did you first hear about this one?

looks like you cant change the font size in any way? that's highly
limiting -- on https://writeapp.co/help -- under 'editor'
Franz Grieser 4/7/2018 11:37 am
doablesoftware wrote:
iawrite - on https://ia.net/writer/about/ and under 'Document Library'
section it looks like a list of files/notes instead, can you confirm?

Right now, the document library is not available in the Windows version of iA Writer. But they plan to add that.


doablesoftware 4/7/2018 10:13 pm
'Write.' - yea very very very hard to find, even when you know the name, it's still very hard to google due to the naming of this software, wish they didnt do that

- cos it's unlikely it'll become so commonplace that it would be easiely found such as
- 'apple' or 'swift'
- right now if you google 'swift' you get the programming lang and taylor swift
- 'write' is far too common of a usage and that was/is undoubtedly a terrible naming
- also software seems new within the last year, that's likely also a factor

'not have the text jammed up against the left edge'

- ok sure why not?, tho 'centering the text on the screen' is better the text may still be close to left alignment, so we wanna be clear it's def centred, just like the link from the write site

'zoomable font' - 'zoom in and out to adjust how large the text looks on the screen.'

- ok like typora (which fits the markdown need, but maybe something else would do better)

ill get to looking into write more fully, and ill get it done, tahnsk for the suggest


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@Franz - thanks this is non-urgent, more long-term, and im os-indepenent (both os is fine/good)
- the ‘Document Library’ of iA Writer seems single-level and not muti-level and doesnt appear to be a tree view

doablesoftware 4/10/2018 1:54 am
if anyone uses dynalist, text on there is also centered

it's interesting how so few things besides "write!" have the combination of:

1. treeview
2. + centered text

the situation is obvious tho:

- coder editors commonly (well not commonly, always, always) have treeview
- cos it is obviously an important and helpful feature
- but text is not at centered margin because they are meant for code, and are left aligned

and for software that has centered text like gdocs and many other things,

- they dont have treeview, because they obviously do not understand what is important, and neither do their users
- a user, a common user, would never understand what is important cos they'd just use what is there, like any mindless person would

it's just funny & interesting how so few things besides "write!" have two simple combinations, and such basic features as well


what this means for society at the current point in time is (until i run into those softwares):

* the lack of clean design (centered text) + extremely important functionality (treeview)
* tho the treeview problem is mitigated by users using a separate (but good) software call a file explorer
* if and only if the notes/files/docs/pages were on desktop, and not the web/cloud
Jan S. 4/10/2018 5:21 am


doablesoftware wrote:
+ centered text
text is at centered margin
centered text
two simple combinations, and such basic features
society at the current point in time is
clean design (centered text)

Having "centered text" is neither a 'very basic feature' nor is it important. You just have a weird fetish---which, indeed, common users may not understand.
Paul Korm 4/10/2018 10:17 am
Microsoft's Visual Studio Code (https://code.visualstudio.com ticks all these boxes. It includes a Centered Layout (content is positioned in the middle of the editing panel -- with ability to expand / contract the width of the content), and a Zen Mode, which is full-screen, no toolbars or anything on the screen except the text you are writing. Centered Layout and Zen Mode can be combined.

"Tree view" - VSCode does this with as many different folders you want at a time.
"Bold text" -- when using markdown in preview mode
"White background" -- white, or any theme you want
"text is centered" -- as I mentioned above
"basically nothing else on the screen" -- as I mentioned above

VSCode is available on Mac and Windows. It is enormously configurable and can be overwhelming. But is also easily configurable into a simple editor. And best of all -- it is FREE!

doablesoftware wrote:
1. tree view of folders/files on the side

2. **able to bold the text so you can see the bolded text**

3. white background

4. text is centered on the page/typing area

these 4 basic things needed

--

this one is a plus but not absolutely needed,

* basically nothing else on the screen (clean visually minimal UI)


tightbeam 4/10/2018 1:14 pm
I don't think he means centered *text* but rather a centered text *pane*, like the standard Scrivener setup, with editor in the middle, tree on left, other panes on right.

Jan S. wrote:

doablesoftware wrote:
>+ centered text
>text is at centered margin
>centered text
>two simple combinations, and such basic features
>society at the current point in time is
>clean design (centered text)

Having "centered text" is neither a 'very basic feature' nor is it
important. You just have a weird fetish---which, indeed, common users
may not understand.