Agenda

Started by Jeffery Smith on 2/16/2018
Stephen Zeoli 4/5/2022 12:55 pm
Agenda has just gotten a major update. You can see a video about these updates here:

https://youtu.be/mb1F9k0HUb4


- bi-directional linking
- slash commands (actually back slash)
- auto completion

I wish they had a Windows or web version, so I could use this fine note-taking app.

Steve Z.
tberni 4/5/2022 7:54 pm
Indeed Stephen, Agenda has just been updated to version 14. In addition to the improvements you mention, it is also worth mentioning these new aspects:

- Possibility to export notes (projects or categories) to textbundle format: for me a great improvement, since it allows to make comfortable backups that include attachments and that can be read in applications like DevonThink.
- Great improvement for tag management: autocomplete, list, change of colors, etc.
- Filtering of projects in the sidebar based on different time criteria.
- And many minor improvements that speed up the use of the application.

It should also be noted that the database has been changed, and gives the feeling of an improvement in the overall speed of Agenda.

I would also like to say, that I have been using the application for over a year now as a substitute for Evernote for my live and day-to-day projects, and my appreciation is that Agenda gets better with each iteration. In addition, I think its payment model is one of the most honest that we can find today.

Stephen, your articles in your blog "Welcome to Sherwood", helped me to get introduced to the use of Agenda, which I want to thank you for.

As for the possibility that it could be available for Windows or on the web, I think it is very unlikely, because the development is done by a small Dutch company very committed to the development model associated with Apple.

Best regards.

MadaboutDana 4/6/2022 11:21 am
Interesting to hear.

My biggest question remains, however: does Agenda allow you to work in multiple windows?

And the short answer is still: no.

I've just been experimenting with another interesting app that uses a single-window workspace, Lattics – a knowledge-management app. Its strengths over Agenda: it has multiple panes, including a "cards" pane (cards can be any size you like, and you can embed them in your main notes as footnotes, body copy or references), and it lets you divide the main note pane into two (either horizontally or vertically) and then display either different parts of the same note in each half-pane, or two separate notes.

It's also a very elegant app (although I notice that the export options don't include footnotes, despite a checkbox option promising to do so). More on https://lattics.zineapi.com

Sadly, it's macOS only for the time being.

Cheers!
Bill
tberni 4/6/2022 12:31 pm


MadaboutDana wrote:
Interesting to hear.

My biggest question remains, however: does Agenda allow you to work in
multiple windows?


It is clear that, for the moment, Agenda is not for you ;-)
Stephen Zeoli 4/6/2022 2:06 pm
Bill,

Thanks for the reference to Lattics. Very interesting looking app. While I get your objection to Agenda, to my mind Lattics is a very different animal. I want to use Agenda for managing projects. Whereas, Lattics looks like it would be an excellent way to craft long-form articles or even books.

The appeal of Agenda for me is, to some extent, its limitations. I won't be tempted to try to stash all my notes in it. It is the perfect way to track and record healthcare, for instance. And for planning a vacation. Even the fact that it is Apple-only is an advantage for me, since I won't be tempted to combine my work (which is Windows-PC based) with my personal.

(In the middle of writing this response, I decided I had to download and try Lattics. CRIMP in action.)

Steve

MadaboutDana wrote:
Interesting to hear.

My biggest question remains, however: does Agenda allow you to work in
multiple windows?

And the short answer is still: no.

I've just been experimenting with another interesting app that uses a
single-window workspace, Lattics – a knowledge-management app. Its
strengths over Agenda: it has multiple panes, including a "cards" pane
(cards can be any size you like, and you can embed them in your main
notes as footnotes, body copy or references), and it lets you divide the
main note pane into two (either horizontally or vertically) and then
display either different parts of the same note in each half-pane, or
two separate notes.

It's also a very elegant app (although I notice that the export options
don't include footnotes, despite a checkbox option promising to do so).
More on https://lattics.zineapi.com

Sadly, it's macOS only for the time being.

Cheers!
Bill
MadaboutDana 4/6/2022 6:34 pm
Sorry, Steve, I was thinking laterally there – I shouldn't have implied that Lattics was comparable with Agenda, it was just the interface issue/comparison that intrigued me.

Following your/@tberni's input, I've just been playing with Agenda again – I was subscribed until a couple of years ago. Hm. No, still really, really irritates me for various reasons, although I appreciate that I'm no longer working with the most up-to-date version (mine dates from early 2020; to their credit, you keep all the features you paid for).

Even the windows thing I can forgive. What I find really surprising is that you can't use Agenda for time blocking (or not easily, i.e. by dragging and dropping tasks onto a timeline). Unless that's been introduced in the meantime and I haven't discovered it? Given the app's layout, it's such an obvious feature – surely?

But go on, tell me I'm wrong!

Cheers!
Bill

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Stephen Zeoli wrote:
Bill,

Thanks for the reference to Lattics. Very interesting looking app. While
I get your objection to Agenda, to my mind Lattics is a very different
animal. I want to use Agenda for managing projects. Whereas, Lattics
looks like it would be an excellent way to craft long-form articles or
even books.

The appeal of Agenda for me is, to some extent, its limitations. I won't
be tempted to try to stash all my notes in it. It is the perfect way to
track and record healthcare, for instance. And for planning a vacation.
Even the fact that it is Apple-only is an advantage for me, since I
won't be tempted to combine my work (which is Windows-PC based) with my
personal.

(In the middle of writing this response, I decided I had to download and
try Lattics. CRIMP in action.)

Steve

MadaboutDana wrote:
Interesting to hear.
>
>My biggest question remains, however: does Agenda allow you to work in
>multiple windows?
>
>And the short answer is still: no.
>
>I've just been experimenting with another interesting app that uses a
>single-window workspace, Lattics – a knowledge-management app.
Its
>strengths over Agenda: it has multiple panes, including a "cards" pane
>(cards can be any size you like, and you can embed them in your main
>notes as footnotes, body copy or references), and it lets you divide
the
>main note pane into two (either horizontally or vertically) and then
>display either different parts of the same note in each half-pane, or
>two separate notes.
>
>It's also a very elegant app (although I notice that the export options
>don't include footnotes, despite a checkbox option promising to do so).
>More on https://lattics.zineapi.com
>
>Sadly, it's macOS only for the time being.
>
>Cheers!
>Bill
tberni 4/6/2022 7:56 pm
Well, Bill: I get the impression that you are using a version of Agenda that is more than two years old. Is that true? If the answer is yes, you can upgrade to the latest version, and you won't lose any of the premium capabilities you purchased at the time. You will also gain a whole series of enhancements that are inherent to all later versions and are not subject to the pro version. For example: the export to textbundle format in version 14 is an open upgrade, as well as improvements in the use of tags (these improvements do not require the annual premium upgrade).

If all the above assumptions are correct, you may find that you have a new user experience with Agenda.

It is true that Agenda has its limitations, but from my point of view it is a good application for chronological tracking of project notes.

By the way: I have also downloaded Lattics, and I am giving it a review.

satis 4/20/2022 9:19 am
FYI a purchase of an unlocked Agenda license with one year of included updates is now $9.99 (down from $35) via a Stacksocial deal ending 4/24

https://stacksocial.com/sales/agenda-premium-14

If you’re new to Stacksocial you can get an extra 10% off when signing up for their newsletter.

satis 4/26/2022 8:48 pm
FYI I took advantage of that $9.99 Premium unlock and have been playing with the app. Very much in the vein of Noteplan.

I wanted to give praise to the app's Discourse discussion forum at https://agenda.community/ and especially the How To section with subsections on all the app's features.

https://agenda.community/c/how-to/

I wish the app had better onboarding but this how-to section is quite useful.

Unfortunately, people have apparently asked since at least 2018 for 'foldable outlines' without seeing any hint of it being forthcoming, and a few days ago the dev (or dev rep) wrote that outline functionality is "not something we see adding in the next few updates."

Even without outlines it's still a really nice app, and I'm investigating it as one of several possible replacements for Day One. The features roadmap they're currently working on are here.

https://agenda.community/t/the-features-we-are-working-on-right-now/
MadaboutDana 4/27/2022 2:41 pm
And of course you *can* fold notes, but only from the title – and it's certainly not as easy as it should be (currently you have to use the context menu; once a note title is folded, a more or less intuitive "minus" sign appears which you can click to unfold the following note. Why they can't put a "plus" sign next to the header for folding purposes, I really don't know).
satis 6/27/2022 9:50 pm
Note that the $9.99 Premium unlock deal (1 year app support, but lifetime unlock of all features available now through the next 12 months) expires in 5 days.

https://stacksocial.com/sales/agenda-premium-14
tberni 6/28/2022 12:51 pm


satis wrote:
Note that the $9.99 Premium unlock deal (1 year app support, but
lifetime unlock of all features available now through the next 12
months) expires in 5 days.

https://stacksocial.com/sales/agenda-premium-14


Thank you, Satis, for the tip: I just renewed my Premium subscription. It is a very good offer!
satis 6/28/2022 4:05 pm
It's a good Mac/iOS date-focused notes app, with a generous if unique license plan. Although it's got many powerful features (autocompletion, tag browser, links/backlinks, filtering, format/tag Actions, support for LiveText, etc) I'd simply bought the unlock to try it out as a replacement for Day One, which I've been using for eight years. Although it does a servicable job, I resubscribed to Day One recently because of some features I like (weather and location-stamping, streaks, e2e encryption). $10 is an incredible bargain for this app, though I currently don't have a use-case for it at this time.
Paul Korm 6/28/2022 4:29 pm
So timely. My premium license just expired and the app wanted $34.99 or whatever. Then I saw your posting, and got the $9.99 deal installed. Thank you !

satis wrote:
Note that the $9.99 Premium unlock deal (1 year app support, but
lifetime unlock of all features available now through the next 12
months) expires in 5 days.

https://stacksocial.com/sales/agenda-premium-14
satis 6/28/2022 11:24 pm
Paul, I'd be interested in learning how you are using the app, and which features you have gravitated to. I have a passel of hibernating notes apps, and Agenda is one of those I feel close to digging into... but don't. (Others include Craft, UpNote, and NotebooksApp.)
Drewster 6/29/2022 6:48 am
I've been settled on using Craft for the past year, but I still couldn't resist resurrecting my old Agenda account at this renewal price. Will I actually use it? I don't know. But at least I'm supporting a developer, and my CRIMPing habit at the same time!
MadaboutDana 6/29/2022 9:37 am
Always immensely satisfying! ;-)

Drewster wrote:
I've been settled on using Craft for the past year, but I still couldn't
resist resurrecting my old Agenda account at this renewal price. Will I
actually use it? I don't know. But at least I'm supporting a developer,
and my CRIMPing habit at the same time!
satis 4/22/2023 3:55 pm
My $9.99 subscription deal from last year expired so I went about seeing whether it was still available somewhere, and while the answer appears to be no, I learned that last month Agenda added a lifetime purchase option for $119.99 to the regular yearly $34.99 premium unlock.

In the interim since my unlock expired the features added to Agenda have been multiple windows for notes and projects (making it easier to take notes side-by-side with another app), and multiple colors for highlighting text and categories.

I'm unsure that's worth an immediate remittance of $35/$120 but I'm keeping an eye on the app, which I've started again for shared lists instead of Anylist.
satis 11/28/2024 3:45 am
According to developer Drew "Agenda 20 is currently in beta testing. The most important new features are… Folding of content, ie, hiding nested lists, folding sections with headings. It is similar to collapsing a note, but you can do it on parts of a note. Text content filtering. Eg. you could apply a filter to just see the unchecked list items. You can combine as many of these filters as you like for each project and overview, to show customized views of your note content."