TiddlyWiki resurgent
Started by MadaboutDana
on 10/13/2017
Hugh
10/29/2017 5:11 pm
Just to say, having researched all the wikis suggested above, that I think Notion's address is: https://www.notion.so (notion.io is a home automation site!).
MadaboutDana
10/29/2017 7:27 pm
Sorry, Hugh - yes, quite right, notion.so
And you might want to take a quick look at www.nuclino.com, which is similar, but possibly even simpler in concept. I rather like it!
@Dr Andus
The transfer of data is definitely a bit awkward. Have you thought of looking for a Dropbox-based static HTML page generator, perhaps with search function included? Nothing springs immediately to mind, but I did do a little research into this a while ago. I'll see if I can dig out my notes. There are some lovely super-simple concepts that automatically use Markdown files (effectively text files) as web pages, meaning that if you could output your CT content as a load of separate files, you could probably manage them through some kind of web server.
Cheers,
Bill
And you might want to take a quick look at www.nuclino.com, which is similar, but possibly even simpler in concept. I rather like it!
@Dr Andus
The transfer of data is definitely a bit awkward. Have you thought of looking for a Dropbox-based static HTML page generator, perhaps with search function included? Nothing springs immediately to mind, but I did do a little research into this a while ago. I'll see if I can dig out my notes. There are some lovely super-simple concepts that automatically use Markdown files (effectively text files) as web pages, meaning that if you could output your CT content as a load of separate files, you could probably manage them through some kind of web server.
Cheers,
Bill
Dr Andus
10/29/2017 9:45 pm
MadaboutDana wrote:
Yeah, I would love to be able to do something like that, as long as it's not too labour-intensive to set up and maintain and if at least some basic wiki functions are working, such as links between pages, images, files (mainly PDFs), and some kind of tags. But I'd miss some of the more advanced features of CT.
This then makes me think that maybe the easiest thing would be to try to turn my Windows laptop with CT on it into a 'server' by leaving it permanently on at home, and just use my Chromebook to connect to it remotely using Chrome Remote Desktop (CRD).
Unfortunately I didn't find CRD 100% reliable when I tried this in the past, and it's terrible to be in the middle of a meeting wanting to show others something just to find out that CRD can't connect for some inexplicable reason.
It doesn't help that my employer doesn't allow such connections on its network, so I'd need to use my own mobile broadband connection, which costs money.
But maybe it's worth trying again, as my Chromebook is a lot lighter to carry around than my Windows laptop.
Have you thought of
looking for a Dropbox-based static HTML page generator, perhaps with
search function included?
There are some lovely super-simple concepts that automatically
use Markdown files (effectively text files) as web pages, meaning that
if you could output your CT content as a load of separate files, you
could probably manage them through some kind of web server.
Yeah, I would love to be able to do something like that, as long as it's not too labour-intensive to set up and maintain and if at least some basic wiki functions are working, such as links between pages, images, files (mainly PDFs), and some kind of tags. But I'd miss some of the more advanced features of CT.
This then makes me think that maybe the easiest thing would be to try to turn my Windows laptop with CT on it into a 'server' by leaving it permanently on at home, and just use my Chromebook to connect to it remotely using Chrome Remote Desktop (CRD).
Unfortunately I didn't find CRD 100% reliable when I tried this in the past, and it's terrible to be in the middle of a meeting wanting to show others something just to find out that CRD can't connect for some inexplicable reason.
It doesn't help that my employer doesn't allow such connections on its network, so I'd need to use my own mobile broadband connection, which costs money.
But maybe it's worth trying again, as my Chromebook is a lot lighter to carry around than my Windows laptop.
Hugh
10/30/2017 8:52 am
MadaboutDana wrote:
Sorry, Hugh - yes, quite right, notion.so
And you might want to take a quick look at www.nuclino.com, which is
similar, but possibly even simpler in concept. I rather like it!
Thanks for the suggestion, Bill - it looks interesting!
Dr Andus
1/3/2018 9:55 pm
Here is a workaround for using and sharing a TiddlyWiki across multiple (Android-capable) Chromebooks.
The setup and the process looks a bit involved, so it's not quite the simple solution I've been hankering for, but at least it seems to be possible:
"Tiddlywiki via Termux"
https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/7nid63/tiddlywiki_via_termux/
The setup and the process looks a bit involved, so it's not quite the simple solution I've been hankering for, but at least it seems to be possible:
"Tiddlywiki via Termux"
https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/7nid63/tiddlywiki_via_termux/
ikandi
1/11/2018 9:56 pm
Nuclino is very good and ticks many boxes. However there is no mobile client for Android and iOS, which makes it a showstopper for me
I use Redbooth for project management, but it can also be used as a filestore, among many other things. Its also very price competitive.
https://redbooth.com
I use Redbooth for project management, but it can also be used as a filestore, among many other things. Its also very price competitive.
https://redbooth.com
dg
1/28/2018 8:43 pm
Dr Andus wrote:
Speaking of wikis, does anyone here use an online wiki as a private wiki
for a personal notes database?
Sorry for posting this after the thread has gone quiet, but I recently researched this same question and decided this was the best solution...
http://www.wikidot.com/
Prices are reasonable, your Wiki is private unless you choose to share it, it has powerful professional features like
- transclusion (which they call "Include") http://community.wikidot.com/system2:page-tags-howto/tag/include/category/howto
- variables http://community.wikidot.com/howto:system-variables-details
- and an active tech community that documents how to get things done http://community.wikidot.com/howto:howto-list
The free account might be all you ever need, but the $50/year plan should handle the most extensive personal Wiki I can imagine. There are other hosted Wiki's, but this was the best solution I found for a professional grade personal Wiki.
Although I don't know about moving your ConnectedText files to Wikidot, I think you could find a way to do in Wikidot everything you were doing in ConnectedText.
Hope that's helpful.
dg
1/28/2018 9:56 pm
Also, if you're still willing to consider TW5, I've run it successfully as the originally intended single-file approach, but locally on my PC using TiddlyDesktop...
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases
And also following these simple instructions to install node.js and run TW5 in a manner that stores all the Tiddlers as separate small text fiiles
https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Node.js
I imported a small TW5 set of notes I've been building into the Node.js version and it easily converted them into the new form and stored each Tiddler as an independent text file. Testing showed effectively no difference in the operation of my little Wiki.
So right now I'm TiddlyDesktop because it's so easy to use. But I have the confidence that if a the single file TW approach got too big, I could easily convert it into a Wiki where all the individual notes are stored on my hard disk as simple text files.
IOW, I'm finding TW pretty flexible and powerful.
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases
And also following these simple instructions to install node.js and run TW5 in a manner that stores all the Tiddlers as separate small text fiiles
https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Node.js
I imported a small TW5 set of notes I've been building into the Node.js version and it easily converted them into the new form and stored each Tiddler as an independent text file. Testing showed effectively no difference in the operation of my little Wiki.
So right now I'm TiddlyDesktop because it's so easy to use. But I have the confidence that if a the single file TW approach got too big, I could easily convert it into a Wiki where all the individual notes are stored on my hard disk as simple text files.
IOW, I'm finding TW pretty flexible and powerful.
Chris Thompson
1/29/2018 2:36 pm
I don’t know why the TiddlyWiki developers don’t emphasize the ’’.hta’’ method of running TiddyWiki on Windows. On the website it’s described as some kind of weird hack, but it’s by far the easiest way to run TiddlyWiki on Windows and it works even on most locked-down corporate networks where you can’t install or run any kind of new software.
TW5 is fantastic and has the virtue of being powerful enough to do anything, but it’s basically like emacs -- you have to be somewhat technical and willing to join a community and leverage a kind of oral history in order to figure out how to use it beyond the basics.
TW5 is fantastic and has the virtue of being powerful enough to do anything, but it’s basically like emacs -- you have to be somewhat technical and willing to join a community and leverage a kind of oral history in order to figure out how to use it beyond the basics.
MadaboutDana
1/29/2018 5:40 pm
Dang! I've just very successfully distracted myself from serious work by reading this bit about Node.js and just having to experiment. And wow, it does work really well!
It also means you don't have to use an optimised browser (e.g. TiddlyDesktop or Firefox with TiddlyFox) to successfully interact with TiddlyWiki - the node.js server takes care of (auto)saving.
The only downside is, the output is not, of course, compatible with Quine (on iOS); for that, you still need the optimised browser setup... Ah well.
And yes, TiddlyWiki is remarkably flexible and powerful, especially if you use scripting to generate tagged outlines.
dg wrote:
It also means you don't have to use an optimised browser (e.g. TiddlyDesktop or Firefox with TiddlyFox) to successfully interact with TiddlyWiki - the node.js server takes care of (auto)saving.
The only downside is, the output is not, of course, compatible with Quine (on iOS); for that, you still need the optimised browser setup... Ah well.
And yes, TiddlyWiki is remarkably flexible and powerful, especially if you use scripting to generate tagged outlines.
dg wrote:
And also following these simple instructions to install node.js and run
TW5 in a manner that stores all the Tiddlers as separate small text
fiiles
https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Node.js
satis
4/29/2018 1:18 pm
MadaboutDana wrote:
Quip, which is turning into a fairly elegant multipurpose solution.
FYI Quip used to have a free tier for personal use, but not any more. After Salesforce bought it in 2016 they refashioned it as a business-oriented collaboration package and they only offer a free trial before charging $30/month (for a team of five).
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