Zengobi released Curio 11 today.

https://www.zengobi.com

I've been working with the beta program for quite awhile. Curio is a great application, which I highly recommend. It's always open on my desktop. Indispensable.

Thanks for the heads up, Paul. I just bought my upgrade!

Steve Z.

Curio(u)s question: How does Curio handle syncing between 2 Macs?

a) the Scrivener way via Dropbox, iCloud etc. - i.e., you have to close a Curio file on machine A before opening the file on machine B?
b) the Ulysses way via iCloud - i.e., you can have the file open in 2 instances on 2 machines (maybe even more)

Thanks in advance, Franz

Hi, Franz,

The Scrivener way. I wish Curio worked the way Ulysses does. Its nifty little helper app, Curiota, however, works the Ulysses way.


Franz Grieser wrote:

Curio(u)s question: How does Curio handle syncing between 2 Macs?

a) the Scrivener way via Dropbox, iCloud etc. - i.e., you have to close
a Curio file on machine A before opening the file on machine B?
b) the Ulysses way via iCloud - i.e., you can have the file open in 2
instances on 2 machines (maybe even more)

Thanks in advance, Franz

Hi Stephen.

Thanks for the precise answer. I'd prefer the Ulysses way, too. Curiota is nice, though.

And if I may ask: Tinderbox, I guess, also works the Scrivener way?

Best wishes, Franz

Yes, that's the case, unfortunately. I don't see that changing ever.

Franz Grieser wrote:

Hi Stephen.

Thanks for the precise answer. I'd prefer the Ulysses way, too. Curiota
is nice, though.

And if I may ask: Tinderbox, I guess, also works the Scrivener way?

Best wishes, Franz

Thanks again, Stephen.

Have a nice weekend.

It is a little more nuanced. There are advanced settings in Curio 11 that allow you to share your "personal respository of tags, idea space templates, stencils, etc", and/or your Application Support folder that contains "everything that goes into Curio's app support folder including project gallery and Status shelf project categories and lists, temporary documents, and other items." You can put the repository or the app support folder in a synced Dropbox folder (for example) and thus share resources that can be used in multiple Curio projects.

Nevertheless, it remains true that it is possible, but potentially destructive, for two users to access the same Curio project simultaneously. Curio and Scrivener both use OS X "packages" (a type of folder) and there is no data locking possible with that method. Ulysses uses a proprietary data management philosophy which supports locking and sharing to a limited extent.


@Steve Zeoli wrote

The Scrivener way. I wish Curio worked the way Ulysses does. Its nifty little helper app, Curiota, however, works the Ulysses way.

Thanks for clarifying things, Paul.
I am mostly interested in accessing a central data file when working on either of my 2 Macs. In this case, not being able to do that is not a game stopper for me, though.

Best wishes, Franz

But, Franz, if it is only you working on this Mac or that Mac, you can close the project on one before using it on the other, no? It's a snap to reopen a project from the Gallery or Recents. Is that onerous?

Franz Grieser wrote:

I am mostly interested in accessing a central data file when working on
either of my 2 Macs. In this case, not being able to do that is not a
game stopper for me, though.

Paul. No, it's not onerous.
It's just: Sometimes, I forget to close a file before leaving the office. That's how I managed to damage a Scrivener file a year ago. I could save most of it, though.
But, as I wrote, it's no deal-breaker for me. I just have to be more cautious.

As a long-time user of Curio, I have to chime in with my full support here (and I registered after watching in for a while now just to do so).

As to the sharing of Curio Projects on one machine to another, I've been running Curio between my office login and my personal login on my MBP. I will not claim that all is perfect. The method used for sharing the internal settings (tags and such) has been modified in the switch 10 -> 11. I've been a bit overwhelmed to contact the developer to troubleshoot the issues in greater depth. I suspect that part of the problem has to do with the mysterious Mac permissions. Part also has to do with a need for me to sit down, clean out old clutter, and try the sharing again from ground zero.

Otherwise, have you considered an AppleScript to "tell application XYZ to quit" on your work machine set to run every evening at a certain time? Or better still, just have ia cron restart your work machine every evening at Xpm to flush everything?

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JJW