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GrandView (GV) on XP or Vista--how?
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Posted by Cassius
Mar 7, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Some of us still use GV on Win XP or Vista (?). I thought it would be worthwhile for those who do to share their settings (pif file settings, supplementary software, etc.) that make GV more user-friendly in Windows.
I’ll post my settings as soon as I find them.
-c
Posted by Cassius
Mar 8, 2008 at 04:09 AM
Here are the shortcut file properties) I’ve been using in XP. I make NO claim that they are the best. I tried TAME software; it made some things easier, but other things seemed harder. Newer versions of TAME (http://www.tamedos.com) may work better. (I should try…) A Jan. 2008 TAME version is in downloadable beta.
cmd line: C:\PROGRA~1\GRANDV~1\GV.EXE /A/V/L/T/W
font: TrueType only; 9x15
memory: All auto; uses HMA; protected -> off
screen: use window; all options checked
misc: Foreground, mouse and background: unchecked
Fast pasting and all Windows shortcut keys: checked
Compatibility: all unchecked
In Win 2000 I also used an intermediate batch file, but it didn’t seem to gain me anything in XP.
In case you didn’t know: Alt-Spacebar, E,P does the pasting from windows programs to GV (or another dos box file), and is much quicker than right-clicking on the title bar and using the context menu.
-c
Posted by Derek Cornish
Mar 8, 2008 at 07:29 PM
Cassius -
My pif settings are very much the same as yours, but a bit sloppier :-) - i.e. I haven’t got rid of all the settings I used when I ran it under WIN98. Here’s a brief rundown of where I differ from you:
cmd line: I don’t use /L/T/W - but probably should
memory: uses HMA - checked (don’t think it helps)
misc: Background - “always suspend” is checked
font: 9x15: “both” is checked. (probably because I am using special fonts - see below)
On fonts: I am using (I think they are still working) Uwe Sieber’s modified DOS fonts. I have his NewDOS Fullscreen (Licence version) installed. They can be found at http://www.uwe-sieber.de/dosfon_e.html
I recall having to do some experimenting to find the best match to my laptop. And I think that further fiddling about with Tame may have wrecked my original settings. That said, I have GV running in a DOS window on XP that nearly fills my Thinkpad A31 screen.
On Tame - great idea with lots of settings for DOS windows under XP - including much better copy/paste routines and so on - but I could never get GV to scroll smoothly or quickly enough when using it. Tame is a complicated program and really needs a user forum plus an attempt by the developer to provide some guidance about settings for important DOS programs. The other problem was that getting the settings right for one program tended to screw up all my other ones. Again, I think I could have made program-specific settings but just could not work out how - in 10 seconds, that is! - to do so. So blame my lack of patience rather than Tame, I think.
>In case you didn’t know: Alt-Spacebar, E,P does the pasting from windows programs to GV (or another dos box file), and >is much quicker than right-clicking on the title bar and using the context menu.
Yes, I did, but only found out about a couple of years ago. It’s very useful and others will be helped a lot to know this. It’s the small but irksome problems like pasting that put people off continuing to run DOS programs under XP.
Derek
Posted by jimspoon
Mar 9, 2008 at 01:28 AM
I haven’t had any problems running GV under XP. Not running it in TAME. When a DOS program won’t run under XP, I’ve had good luck running them in DOSBox.
http://www.dosbox.com/
Posted by Derek Cornish
Mar 9, 2008 at 05:33 PM
jimspoon wrote:
>I haven’t had any problems running GV under XP. Not running it in TAME. When a DOS
>program won’t run under XP, I’ve had good luck running them in
>DOSBox.
>http://www.dosbox.com/
Would the programs in question be mainly games? I can’t say I’ve had many problems running non-games DOS software in XP - but perhaps I’ve just been lucky. Thanks for reminding me about DOSBox, though. I’ll add it to my toolkit.
Derek