Nottingham 3

Started by Paul Korm on 11/10/2016
Paul Korm 11/10/2016 1:19 am
Nottingham was an early clone of Notational Velocity (I think it might have preceded NVAlt). After a number of years in limbo, the app is back in development and Nottingham 3 is now released.

https://clickontyler.com/nottingham/

It's a pretty basic markdown editor. Interesting to recall how Notational Velocity and its clones was the big thing in markdown not too many years ago.
Stephen Zeoli 11/10/2016 12:00 pm
Thanks for the heads up.

A couple of other notes: When you download the app, it is a two week free trial version. After that you have to pay $15.

I like the idea of creating wiki-style linking.

Steve Z.
Paul Korm 11/10/2016 1:34 pm
The wikilinks using [[this syntax]] dates back to Notational Velocity, which is still available though not updated since it went open source in 2011:

http://notational.net

Nottingham, nvAlt and others came later. A successor to nvAlt ("BitWriter" was it's recent name) has been vaporware for a very long time -- one of the most popular never-released apps!
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 4:03 pm
Worth noting that Bear also supports this wiki linking syntax, in addition to its own internal linking system (each note has its own inbuilt ID).

I've also just discovered quite a nice little personal wiki called, aha, Kiwi. It's an iOS app, but uses Dropbox to synchronise with other platforms. Its only failing is a lack of search function - otherwise it's rather charming.

Bear is, however, a far more sophisticated environment for this kind of personal wiki, not least because it also has tagging.
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 4:05 pm
Sorry, I should have explicitly stated that yes, Kiwi also supports this [[wiki linking]] syntax.
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 4:08 pm
Trunk Notes, another popular iOS personal wiki manager, uses WikiWord linking syntax. The advantage of Kiwi is that it supports double-bracket links and uses Markdown for editing.

But... no search function. Trunk Notes does have a search function!
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 4:10 pm
Plus Trunk Notes supports tags, snippets and various other rather elegant things like functions and custom headers/footers.

I've never really got on with Trunk Notes, for some reason, although I've tried to on various occasions. I just find notetaking apps like Bear more congenial.
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 4:11 pm
Ah, and actually, I had forgotten, but Trunk Notes supports Markdown as well. Hm. Actually, it's pretty damn powerful. But doesn't look as nice as Kiwi!
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 4:23 pm
Although if you like things like encrypted notes, embedded files (including multimedia files), custom CSS (including custom CSS that responds to specific tags and reformats pages accordingly!), then Trunk Notes is your app of choice!
Paul Korm 11/10/2016 4:37 pm
Bill wins the "how many posts in the shortest period of time award" LOL

On the Mac, DEVONthink has pretty good wiki-like linking between notes. Without using brackets. DEVONthink's lightweight cousin, DEVONnote supports the wiki features too at a lower cost.
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 6:12 pm
Yes, sorry about that!

Okay, confession time:
My flurry of notes reflected a sudden CRIMPing seizure, which has ended with me reinstalling Trunk Notes on all my iOS devices, discovering that it syncs very nicely with Ulysses and TextNut (via Dropbox), has a fantastic built-in web server (which can be set to "not sleep" on e.g. an iPad). The other aspect I'd completely forgotten is the support for LUA, which means you can use all kinds of short codes embedded in pages (or in headers/footers) to trigger various actions or list stuff like tags, notes, actions, backlinks etc. etc. etc. Oh, and it also supports HTML in pages, so you can use that instead of Markdown if you want to e.g. insert a table or something.

The encryption works very nicely, too.

The thing that's finally winning me over is the fact that you can customise the CSS. Meaning you can make Trunk Notes as attractive as you like - as attractive as e.g. Ulysses or Bear, in fact.

Oh dear! This has been Very Bad for my productivity, and means I shall be working late this evening! Bad, Bad Bill. Big Smack!

Cheers,
Bill
Paul Korm 11/10/2016 6:58 pm
Whoa ... thanks for the tips about Trunk Notes. It's been sitting fallow on my iPad for a long time. You're right, Bill -- very cool features. I had never used the server. With that running, it's a great way to get info onto the iPad:

Insert links to notes in Bear, which are also synced to the iPad. Or links to documents from DEVONthink that are synced to DEVONthink to Go.

Clip images on the desktop, send them to Droplr and them grab the Droply link and put it into a Trunk Notes note -- can add images to notes this way.

Lots more to explore. Great CRIMP.
MadaboutDana 11/10/2016 7:45 pm
Yeah, dude, and to think it started with a simple discussion of [[wiki linking]] - which, by the way, Trunk Notes also supports, although it's not mentioned in the documentation.

The Trunk Notes version is case sensitive. Dang, it works really well with Ulysses, TextNut and Bear! Oh, and with MWeb, QOwnNotes and iaWriter. And LightPaper, too.

Back to work.
MadaboutDana 11/11/2016 10:26 am
Another sad CRIMPing detail: Trunk Notes doesn't support the GitHub flavour of Markdown, so I thought there was no way of introducing checkboxes (for lists, todos etc.).

But actually you can, using a simple piece of Lua code, thus: {{check Something I really need to do}}

"check" stands for checkbox, and when you save the edited page you'll see a checkbox followed by "Something I really need to do" (the equivalent of "- [ ] Something I really need to do" in a GitHub editor)

The cunning bit is: you can check the checkbox on the page *in viewing mode*, and the app will remember its status (even if you then edit the page again, or sync over Dropbox).

I've no idea how it's doing this - there must be some Lua meta code embedded somewhere (I confess I haven't had a good look at the file yet). But it's very convenient, precisely because you don't have to edit a note in order to check a checkbox.

CRIMPin' Bill
MadaboutDana 11/11/2016 12:40 pm
Fascinating. Trunk Notes does actually support extended Markdown, just not the GitHub flavour. So you can, for example, create tables. It also automatically parses dashes and converts quotation marks/apostrophes to the curly variety. Gosh.

I do wish one could change the CSS for the web server (maybe one can, and I just haven't found it yet); I've got the CSS for the Trunk Notes default page settings optimised so pages now look very nice, but the CSS settings don't carry over to the web server. I shall investigate further.
Paul Korm 11/11/2016 2:50 pm
This thread has been totally hijacked - ha

For tables, check out tablesgenerator.com

Trunk Notes when edited on Mac via the server does odd things with markdown tables -- extra pipes in rows.

So with tablesgenerator.com the table you create can be copied to the clipboard as html and pasted into your Trunk Note -- makes a very nice table, with styling possibilities

MadaboutDana 11/11/2016 4:46 pm
Hey, Nottingham was boring anyway... :-)

Trunk Notes supports the most stripped-down of Markdown tables - leave out the lines on each side, and you'll get a proper table. So rather than doing:

|Header|Header|Header|
|:---|:---:|---:|
|Content|Content|Content|

Do this:

Header|Header|Header
:---|:---:|---:
Content|Content|Content

The extra column will magically disappear!

Cheers,
Bill
Chris Murtland 11/12/2016 3:45 am
You can use a CSS browser extension like Stylebot or Stylish to edit the CSS for the TrunkNotes web server view.

Another cool thing about TN is that it has jQuery embedded, so you can actually do some JavaScript scripting as well as Lua scripting.
MadaboutDana 11/13/2016 3:18 pm
Interesting, Chris, thanks. And there are those who'll tell you the Apple platforms are for the less technically inclined...

They're also for those in search of speed and efficiency. A recent review of the new MacBook Pros, which have been widely panned for not being "professional" enough, has listed the reasons why they're powerful enough for what most professionals have to do. It's worth a read, actually:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/thomas-grove-carter/one-professionals-look-at_b_12894856.html

Cheers,
Bill