I'm pleased it works, Paul.

Here's another wheeze that I've come across - this time from the people behind cloudhq. Instead of providing a way out of Evernote, it provides a work-around for the new limit of two devices per free account, which has upset many users. The cloudhq people (I can't easily link to their blog because it's behind a sign-up wall) suggest signing up to two free Evernote accounts serving three or four different devices in all, using two different email addresses (via Gmail, say), and sync-ing them together using a free low-intensity cloudhq account. (Well, I did say it was a wheeze!)

I don't know why Evernote even keeps the free plan. They need to raise revenues, clearly. Just make the Plus plan the base and offer it for $25 a year. Anyone not willing to pay that, shouldn't complain. Offering a free version of a service like this is a clever way to launch an app, but it is no long term business model. People who rely on Evernote should be happy to support the app to keep it around. Just my two cents.

Steve Z.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

People who rely on Evernote
should be happy to support the app to keep it around. Just my two cents.

Steve Z.

I think I agree.

When Evernote notified users about the price increase a few weeks ago, it said the increase applied to new subscribers.

It lied.

Yesterday Evernote wrote to premium subscribers, raising the fee to $70 -- and granting a "substantial discount" of $10 for one year.

Thanks to Hugh for telling us about Exportnote. I've downloaded everything from Evernote into a folder that I have indexed into a DEVONthink database, and will use DEVONthink on the desktop and DEVONthink to Go 2 on iOS, along with Ulysses, where I have an external folder that I also index in DEVONthink, as my note taking hub.

Up to now I was annoyed but somewhat tolerant of Evernote's behavior. Blatant, money-grubbing lies break customer trust permanently.

I wonder if Evernote is in worse financial shape than it's disclosing. I agree with Paul's dismay. It certainly seemed to me that EN was grandfathering existing premium subscribers.

Daly

Paul Korm wrote:

When Evernote notified users about the price increase a few weeks ago,
it said the increase applied to new subscribers.

It lied.

Yesterday Evernote wrote to premium subscribers, raising the fee to $70
-- and granting a "substantial discount" of $10 for one year.

Thanks to Hugh for telling us about Exportnote. I've downloaded
everything from Evernote into a folder that I have indexed into a
DEVONthink database, and will use DEVONthink on the desktop and
DEVONthink to Go 2 on iOS, along with Ulysses, where I have an external
folder that I also index in DEVONthink, as my note taking hub.

Up to now I was annoyed but somewhat tolerant of Evernote's behavior.
Blatant, money-grubbing lies break customer trust permanently.

For those on iOS and OSX, I have just stumbled upon Bear, an app similar to Evernote but with a better focus on the writer's requirements:
http://www.bear-writer.com/

Bear is currently in the public beta phase.

Best,
Dominik

Bear Notes looks interesting, but it also appears to offer much of the same functionality as Ulysses.

Another option could even be Scrivener, which has a Windows version in addition to Mac and iOS. It is supposed to sync through Dropbox, though I'm still trying to figure that out.

Steve Z.

In Scrivener's "Project" panel click the "Edit" button. The Settings gear will appear at the bottom of that panel. Use the command to set up Dropbox. You can choose a single Dropbox directory to be the location for all your .scriv project files. (They are really "packages" full of files.) You have to use the same folder on the Mac side, obviously.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

Bear Notes looks interesting, but it also appears to offer much of the
same functionality as Ulysses.

Another option could even be Scrivener, which has a Windows version in
addition to Mac and iOS. It is supposed to sync through Dropbox, though
I'm still trying to figure that out.

Steve Z.

An even closer equivalent is Letterspace (for Mac/iOS), but Bear Notes is a very elegant implementation of the concept (I'm running the beta).

As for Scrivener: yes, it does indeed sync through Dropbox, and is relatively easy to set up. But it's a good idea to shut it down on one machine before syncing with Dropbox on another, otherwise you can find conflicts crop up. Scrivener does resolve them, but at the cost of some manual time.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

Bear Notes looks interesting, but it also appears to offer much of the
same functionality as Ulysses.

Another option could even be Scrivener, which has a Windows version in
addition to Mac and iOS. It is supposed to sync through Dropbox, though
I'm still trying to figure that out.

Steve Z.

"Switching from Evernote to OneNote, part 1" – ProfHacker - Blogs - The Chronicle of Higher Education

http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/switching-from-evernote-to-onenote-part-1/62568

Dr Andus wrote:

"Switching from Evernote to OneNote, part 1" – ProfHacker - Blogs
- The Chronicle of Higher Education

http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/switching-from-evernote-to-onenote-part-1/62568

Thanks, Dr Andus. I'll be interested to see what the next part of the blog has to say about the "how".

Incidentally, I see that ExportNote now has (perhaps it always did have) a pro version for $10 more. It will additionally export dates and tags (essential for those who've organised their Evernotes in a tag hierarchy, rather than a notebook-based one). N.B. I haven't tested this version.

Doesn't RightNote offer syncing with EN? I do not really use EN, but IIRC, I thought RN offered this feature.

--Ken

Dr Andus wrote:

"Switching from Evernote to OneNote, part 1" – ProfHacker - Blogs
- The Chronicle of Higher Education

http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/switching-from-evernote-to-onenote-part-1/62568

The linked article in this article was quite interesting. He gives a simple example of weighing the cost of the $20 increase, but I suspect that determining one's "investment" can often be much more than just the cost of software. I am certainly not penny-wise/pound-foolish, but then again I would think twice about remaining with a SAAS that is having a variety of issues. That $20 increase may cost less than switching if you just value the time of the initial learning curve, but in the longer term, you may just be pushing off decisions that may be much more costly and/or disruptive.

--Ken

Hugh wrote:

I'll be interested to see what the next part of the
blog has to say about the "how".

Here you go:

"Switching from Evernote to OneNote, part 2"

ProfHacker - Blogs - The Chronicle of Higher Education

http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/switching-from-evernote-to-onenote-part-2/62621

Reading the article from the Chronicle of Higher Education, I think the author's "reasons" for switching to OneNote are actually symptoms of CRIMPing. This is not criticism. CRIMPing is a perfectly reasonable excuse for hopping from one note manager to another. But seriously. For someone in academics, paying an additional $20 a year for a note manager that he really loved is nothing. The point is that he doesn't love Evernote... just like most of us CRIMP sufferers, he finds all sorts of little issues that justify what his CRIMP wants him to do! I know this because I recognize myself.

This is all just a theory, of course.

Steve Z.

I believe the "he" who wrote the Chronicle article is Amy Cavender.

The Chronicle articles are not as informative about how to do the migration as was the Andrew Connell article that Cavender links to in the second part of her article. Connell gets into the practical details of migrating from Evernote to OneNote and explains factors that I was not aware of.

http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog/how-i-migrated-from-evernote-to-onenote

Dr Andus wrote:

Here you go:

"Switching from Evernote to OneNote, part 2"

ProfHacker - Blogs - The Chronicle of Higher Education

http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/switching-from-evernote-to-onenote-part-2/62621

Paul Korm wrote:

I believe the "he" who wrote the Chronicle article is Amy Cavender.

The Chronicle articles are not as informative about how to do the
migration as was the Andrew Connell article that Cavender links to in
the second part of her article. Connell gets into the practical details
of migrating from Evernote to OneNote and explains factors that I was
not aware of.

http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog/how-i-migrated-from-evernote-to-onenote

Many thanks, Dr Andus and Paul Korm.

This NY Times article today ( 20160829 ) claims "The number of customers who pay for [Evernote] file storage and sharing product is on track to grow as much as 40 percent this year, and the company is hiring again."

http://nyti.ms/2btVkCd

This could be fun with numbers -- is the 40% net of losses / turnover in the customer base, for example -- and could be a bit counter-intuitive since the statistic might suggest that Evernote customers are price inelastic.

Paul Korm wrote:

This NY Times article today ( 20160829 ) claims "The number of customers
who pay for [Evernote] file storage and sharing product is on track to
grow as much as 40 percent this year, and the company is hiring again."

http://nyti.ms/2btVkCd

This could be fun with numbers -- is the 40% net of losses / turnover in
the customer base, for example -- and could be a bit counter-intuitive
since the statistic might suggest that Evernote customers are price
inelastic.

Hmm. I can think of several reasons:

- "...net of losses", as you say

- "...is on track to grow", as opposed to a perhaps more expected wording such as "...has grown by..." implies assumptions that may or may not be fulfilled, because of, perhaps...

- ...seasonal loading of recruitment numbers in the past or expected in the future...

...because, as you say, the implied price inelasticity is curious.

This projection likely reflects some very aggressive promotions made toward the end of last year, after the company was declared dead by the VCs and replaced their founding CEO with Chris O’Neil, whose previous claim to fame was managing Google Glass, not exactly a glowing resumé
.
I had found Evernote reasonably good as a cross-platform web clipper, but little else. Last November, they had a special offer for 18 months of Premium for $50 and I decided to give it a try. My conclusion is that it is not worth $50, let alone $70/year, so I will cancel before my renewal comes up. I doubt that I will be alone in that.