I have IS on my laptop but need similar on my new desktop. I don't want to pay for it again, and AllMyNotes has a quirk or two which I can't live with. (Hacking .ini files to change tree font size, good grief.....) What else is there in the notes-with-a-flexible-tree category? FIle menus which use genealogical terminology are not on. (Children, grandparents, et al..)
Thanks for any suggestions.

I'm not a user of any of them, but the ones that seem to be active and are frequently discussed are RightNote and MyInfo. Then there is Ultra Recall.

The application that I always thought most closely matched InfoSelect is Ariadne. It has been around a while, but still appears to be in development. Here's the developer's URL:

http://prokarpaty.net

I just downloaded it and installed in on my MacBook -- it is cross platform -- and see that it has a lot of new features from the last time I checked it out. May be worth purchasing for myself!!!

Steve Z.

Thank you. Those two look similar, so I should try them. I note that RightNote is only useful in the Pro version, as only it has useful search function. That's OK, they're not obliged to give it away.

I just ran into KeepNote. I recall looking at it long ago, and thought it was not bad, but I don't recall it well. It's on my short list.



I should add that I may just decide to use Info Select via TightVNC, TeamViewer; that is, leave my laptop on and run Info Select by remote control. That's not an ideal solution.

Notecase Pro is another one that tends to be mentioned.

I see what you mean, and $17 Euros is cheap.



All these software people seem to be in eastern Europe, eh? It's probably that they can sell at a price which people will pay, as the creators need fewer US dollars or pounds to make a living, compared to a US or other western country.

I should add: Notecase Pro ha the best website I've seen. I'm often frustrated by how bad some websites are which are trying to sell their software product. (The example which come to mind is MyInfo, but there are a number of others.) Notecase Pro is close to perfect. The gallery of screenshots should be an example to anyone building such a site.

razorboy wrote:

I have IS on my laptop but need similar on my new desktop. I don't want
to pay for it again, and AllMyNotes has a quirk or two which I can't
live with. (Hacking .ini files to change tree font size, good
grief.....) What else is there in the notes-with-a-flexible-tree
category? FIle menus which use genealogical terminology are not on.
(Children, grandparents, et al..)
Thanks for any suggestions.

________________________________________

As a long-standing but somewhat critical IS (InfoSelect) user, I am constantly on the lookout for, and trialling alternatives to the otherwise excellent IS version8 that I have settled with (having trialled IS9 and IS10 and found them wanting). I will be interested in trialling IS11 when it comes out (recently mooted in the IS User Forum in Yahoo groups, but I don't have high hopes for it after previous disappointments.
.
Sadly, in the "really useful and also with a flexible tree category", have found nothing that yet meets my peculiar and/or occasionally newly-discovered requirements better than OneNote.
I had initially started using ON on a "suck-it-and-see" and temporary basis, but found that its expanding range of functionality, ease-of-use, rock-solid stability, ongoing forward development/improvement by Microsoft, coupled with its full integration with the MS Office suite (including OLE), Internet Explorer and the Windows OS + SkyDrive make it a compellingly useful system.
.
I am still trialling or re-trialling PIMs however - for example, over the last 4 weeks or so:
* re-trialled Zoot (still not meet my requirements)
* re-trialled IS10 (still not meet my requirements)
* re-trialled MyInfo (still not meet my requirements)
* re-trialled myBase (still not meet my requirements)
* and have just started trialling GS-Base (cost US10 on BitsDuJour recently)
* and of course am still trialling MS OneNote (cost USD10 for MS Office Pro Home Use programme, which includes OneNote, Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint, Publisher, Lync, Infopath).

The difficulty with the latter point is that OneNote is so good and MS Office is now such an incredibly powerful and useful suite (e.g., especially with the latest Excel + Access improvements) for data-munchers like me, and it is all so well-integrated, that it's almost enough to stop one from seeking "that perfect PIM".
However, I remain skeptical.

Having said that, I still use IS8, and don't need to migrate my data out of it just yet. It is still rock-solid, though a recent Win8.1-64 PRO update seems to have left it with an annoying "display refresh lag on update to display" problem.
By the way, I run IS8 on two laptops under one licence, and IS only objects to that if you use them simultaneously when they are online. IS8 "phones home" to the Miclog.com licence server when it is online, and thus the miclog licence server can see that a unique licence is operating from two different MAC addresses at the same tome, or something.
The workaround is to disable one or the other instances of IS8 at the firewall. I never actually need to use both instances of IS8 simultaneously, or through the firewall. The laptops are at different locations, and I may have left one online, with IS8 running, but inactive, when I start the other up - e.g., if I want to (say) share data between the two devices. The home laptop is thus being used a bit like a NAS (Network Attached Server).

Slartibartfarst wrote:

By the way, I run IS8 on two laptops under one licence, and IS only
objects to that if you use them simultaneously when they are online. IS8
"phones home" to the Miclog.com licence server when it is online, and
thus the miclog licence server can see that a unique licence is
operating from two different MAC addresses at the same tome, or
something.
The workaround is to disable one or the other instances of IS8 at the
firewall. I never actually need to use both instances of IS8
simultaneously, or through the firewall. The laptops are at different
locations, and I may have left one online, with IS8 running, but
inactive, when I start the other up - e.g., if I want to (say) share
data between the two devices. The home laptop is thus being used a bit
like a NAS (Network Attached Server).

!!!!! My license was an online upgrade. Could you advise how I can get IS on my other computer? I don't need both at the same time. Tech support is only good for a year and they may not speak to me if I don't cough up another $100 for explanation.

By the way, IS 3 would still be sufficient for my needs if it worked on Wni7. I still have the disks!

As for these others, my short list is now Wikipad, KeepNote, Treepad, and Notecase Pr.

razorboy wrote:

!!!!! My license was an online upgrade. Could you advise how I can get
IS on my other computer? I don't need both at the same time. Tech
support is only good for a year and they may not speak to me if I don't
cough up another $100 for explanation.

By the way, IS 3 would still be sufficient for my needs if it worked on
Wni7. I still have the disks!

As for these others, my short list is now Wikipad, KeepNote, Treepad,
and Notecase Pr.

________________________________________

What version of IS are you actually using? I have licence numbers for (v5, v6, v7, v8) but only use IS8 - which is still an excellent PIM.
Don't you have/know your licence number?

I reinstalled and trialled ISv5 on Win7-64 a while back, to prove it (for another IS user on the Yahoo forum), and it ran OK. From memory, I had to take some care to install the correct versions of ukspell, and that was the only slight complication.

I don't know about v3 though. It was before the time I started using IS. I don't think I ever used/trialled that. My first IS was version 5, which was vintage 1998-2000
Do you know how to install v3 on Win7?
If you don't, then you could copy the software on those diskettes, together with notes about the licence key - e.g., (say) to an online OneNote Notebook that I could set up for you, or elsewhere where I could download them. Then I could try installing it under Win8.1-64 as "compatible with Win7 or Visa" or something, for you. That would prove it one way or t'other. If it worked there, then it would probably be backwards-compatible on Win7, at least.

I just like to extend my thanks to those of you who mentioned NotecasePro - http://notecasepro.com
I'd never come across that PIM before!!
I just looked over the site, the functional descriptions and the change log, and I was seriously impressed.
I shall have to get the "Trial" version, I can see, if I am to compare it to OneNote and my peculiar requirements.

From the change log, it seems to be a mature product and well along its development lifecycle, so I don't understand how come I'd never come across it before. It's not in my database of the hundreds that I have investigated and trialled/tested.
What a pleasant surprise - something "new" (to me) and that looks rather good!

I agree that Notecase Pro looks very good. It helps that he knows how to build an appropriate website to explain and showcase the product.

=========================
My Info Select is Version 9 / 2007. Does the license allow two installations? How does one do it?
I mentioned version 3 to point out that I don't need hyper-nuclear features for what I do. I need the IS tree system, search, and the word processor function it possesses, which is nothing spectacular. (Most of these programmes are a gussied-up metaphor for the Windows directory tree with a word processor embedded.)

Slartibartfarst wrote:

I just like to extend my thanks to those of you who mentioned
NotecasePro - http://notecasepro.com
I'd never come across that PIM before!!
I just looked over the site, the functional descriptions and the change
log, and I was seriously impressed.
I shall have to get the "Trial" version, I can see, if I am to compare
it to OneNote and my peculiar requirements.

From the change log, it seems to be a mature product and well along its
development lifecycle, so I don't understand how come I'd never come
across it before. It's not in my database of the hundreds that I have
investigated and trialled/tested.
What a pleasant surprise - something "new" (to me) and that looks rather
good!

________________________________________

Oh dear. NotecasePro was quite a disappointment when I finally got my hands on it. Lots of potential though.
Uninstalled now. Never mind. Onwards and upwards!

razorboy wrote:

My Info Select is Version 9 / 2007. Does the license allow two />installations? How does one do it?sing procedures.

I mentioned version 3 to point out that I don't need hyper-nuclear eatures for what I do. I need the IS tree system, search, and the word processor function it possesses, which is nothing spectacular. (Most of these programmes are a gussied-up metaphor for the Windows directory tree with a word processor embedded.)
______________________________________

Ah, sorry, I don't know about IS9/2007. I only trialled that, so I don't about know its licensing procedures. Jim may have invented a new registration process for IS9.

Slartibartfarst wrote:

________________

Ah, sorry, I don't know about IS9/2007. I only trialled that, so I don't
about know its licensing procedures. Jim may have invented a new
registration process for IS9.

"""""""""""MICRO LOGIC SOFTWARE LICENSE

GRANT OF LICENSE. This Micro Logic License Agreement ("License") permits you to use one copy of the purchased version of Micro Logic software ("SOFTWARE") on any single computer, provided the SOFTWARE is in use on only one computer at any time. If you have multiple Licenses for the SOFTWARE, then at any time you may have as many copies of the SOFTWARE in use as you have Licenses. The SOFTWARE is "in use" on a computer when it is loaded into the temporary memory (i.e., RAM) or installed into the permanent memory (e.g., hard disk, CD-ROM, or other storage device) of that computer, except that a copy installed on a network server for the sole purpose of distribution to other computers is not "in use". If the anticipated number of users of the SOFTWARE will exceed the number of applicable Licenses, then you must have a reasonable mechanism or process in place to assure that the number of persons using the SOFTWARE concurrently does not exceed the number of Licenses. If the SOFTWARE is permanently installed on the hard disk or other storage device of a computer (other than a network server) and one person uses that computer more than 80% of the time it is in use, then that person may also use the SOFTWARE on a portable or home computer.
COPYRIGHT. The SOFTWARE is owned by Micro Logic Corp. or its suppliers and is protected by U.S. and International copyright protection. Therefore, you must treat the SOFTWARE like any other copyrighted material (e.g., a book or musical recording) except that you may (a) make one copy of the SOFTWARE solely for backup or archival purposes, or (b) transfer the SOFTWARE to a single hard disk provided you keep the original solely for backup or archival purposes. You may not copy the written materials accompanying the SOFTWARE.
OTHER RESTRICTIONS. This Micro Logic License Agreement is your proof of license to exercise the rights granted herein and must be retained by you. You may not rent or lease the SOFTWARE, but you may transfer your rights under this Micro Logic License Agreement on a permanent basis provided you transfer this License Agreement, the SOFTWARE, and all accompanying written materials and retain no copies, and the recipient agrees to the terms of this Agreement. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the SOFTWARE. Any transfer of the SOFTWARE must include the most recent update and all prior versions in your possession.
DUAL MEDIA SOFTWARE. If the SOFTWARE package contains two disk sizes, then you may use only the disks appropriate for your single designated computer or network server. You may not use the other disks on another computer or computer network, or loan, rent, lease, or transfer them to another user except as part of a transfer or other use as expressly permitted by this Micro Logic License Agreement.
LIMITED WARRANTY"""""""""

BTW, there is a thread which has been been going (on and off) for some four years now.

http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=rcabkka00jmkte25ect4n2ogt5&topic=26919.0