Need a new Outliner

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Posted by Garland Coulson
Jun 5, 2014 at 08:51 PM

I am a speaker on time management so I prepare my workshop notes in an outliner first and then export the top level topics to PowerPoint to create graphic slides later.

I have been using Noteliner and really like it but I can’t get the outline from Noteliner in PowerPoint. Even copy and paste doesn’t work - Noteliner freezes.

Any other suggestions? I did look at Fargo (web-based) and liked the interface but had a horrible time getting anything exported from it in any sort of useable format.

Posted by Dr Andus
Jun 5, 2014 at 09:18 PM

Garland Coulson wrote:
>I have been using Noteliner and really like it but I can’t get the
>outline from Noteliner in PowerPoint. Even copy and paste doesn’t work -
>Noteliner freezes.

It works fine over here. As Sam says on the Noteliner website, problems usually have to do with missing or damaged .net 2.0 framework or Visual Studio 2005 installations. There are links to those on his website:
http://www.noteliner.org/i/Main.html

>Any other suggestions?

Have you tried Workflowy? It gives you the option to export a branch as formatted (to paste into MS Office, for instance), plain text, or OPML. But I’m not sure what you mean by exporting “the top level topics.” In Workflowy it’s only possible to export an entire branch.

There is also my beloved Bonsai 5 Desktop Edition, but I’m not sure if it’s still possible to buy a license:
http://64.226.29.51/Bonsai/Download.cfm

BrainStorm could be another option (unconventional and also a dinosaur… I like dinosaurs.)
http://www.brainstormsw.com/

Posted by Garland Coulson
Jun 6, 2014 at 08:33 PM

I am using Windows 8 and I notice Noteliner says it works in Windows 7 only in XP compatibility mode. So time to look for a more updated outliner - one that doesn’t freeze in my o/s.

I have tried Workflowy but don’t like the model of it being only one big outline instead being able to save different outlines for each workshop.

I also prefer outliners that work offline as well.

Posted by Dr Andus
Jun 7, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Garland Coulson wrote:
I am using Windows 8 and I notice Noteliner says it works in Windows 7
>only in XP compatibility mode.

Doesn’t Win8 have XP compatibility mode? There might still be a way to run Noteliner in it. Have you contacted Sam? He might be able to give you some tips.

As for single-pane outliners for Windows, there are thin on the ground. We had a a discussion about them in the past:
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/2520

Here is an amended list. Some of these are more complex software but also have a single-pane outliner or a single-pane view. But some may also need XP compatibility mode.

Brainstorm
ConnectedText (Outline pane)
Ecco Pro
Freeplane (in outline view)
InfoQube
Inspiration 9
ListPro
MaxThink
Natara Bonsai
Noteliner
NoteMap
OneNote
Outline 4D
Sense (has single-pane view)
SplashNotes
TKOutline
UV Outliner
Word (outline view)
WorkFlowy (Chrome app)

Posted by DataMill
Jun 7, 2014 at 01:36 PM

There’s an outliner called Mind Outliner in the Win 8 Store. It can read and write to OPML. If you store your files in OneDrive, it all works pretty well.

- Mike

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