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Have you tried Ecco lately? you really ought to, you know.
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Posted by jimspoon
Dec 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM
So many times I read posts and wonder, “has this person tried Ecco? It might find that it is the closest thing to what he’s looking for.” For speedy single-pane outlining on Windows, with user-defined fields/columns, I still don’t think it can be beat.
An extension for the original Ecco Pro is actively developed, and it greatly extends the capabilities of the original program.
First, you need the original program - here’s a download link - just unzip it and put it in a folder somewhere in your “c:\program files (x86” folder.
http://forums.eccomagic.com/forum/Attachments/pre-release-Manual_Install_001.zip
Then you need the file eccoext.exe. It’s up to version 4.6.4.8. Just copy it into the same folder where you put ecco32.exe. Then all you need to do is run eccoext.exe.
Eccoext.exe is available at the following link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/files/eccoext.7z
To be able to download this file, you’ll have to join the group. Go here and click the blue “Join this Group” button:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/
Lots of folks there ready to help you with any questions.
jim
Posted by Slartibartfarst
Dec 16, 2012 at 08:56 PM
@JimSpoon: Thanks. I last tried ECCO in 2007 and found it no good for my needs. I decided to revisit the thing as a result of reading your post.
I requested to join the forum (Yahoo Group) and am awaiting approval by a moderator. Really you know, that group application/approval procedure seems to be an archaic, tedious and constipated process, developed by a sadist. You should get that fixed.
Hopefully, said process will not entirely defeat my intention to give ECCO a fresh retrial. ;-)
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Dec 16, 2012 at 11:55 PM
I am not sure how JimSpoon would “get that fixed,” unless he is the group owner.
And I’m not sure you’d really want the process change.
I know the process is a bit of a pain.
However, there’s good reason for it. I know because I own a group with several thousand members. At first there was no approval required. But then we started to get the first of a never-ending onslaught of spam - including some of the worst pornography you might imagine. Some of the spammers would send 30 or 40 posts to the group in a one hour period. I tried to get rid of it as quickly as I could, but too much was on the group for too long.
One of the members, with more experience in Yahoo groups than I, suggested approving new members - and putting all new members on moderated status until they had posted at least one legitimate post. As soon as they did, I’d take them off of moderated status.
We went to virtually zero spam in very short order. A little bit would get through now and then. Behind the scenes I was trapping dozens of spammers when their first post would come through for my approval and it was clear it was porn, or get rich quick, or on some topic completely unrelated to the group. I’d simply remove them from the group and trash their posts.
Yahoo says it deals with spam on groups - I can tell you they don’t do a good job. At any one time, groups without our approval process are battling spam of all kinds.
So in the long run, the approval process works to everyone’s benefit.
Daly
Slartibartfarst wrote:
@JimSpoon: Thanks. I last tried ECCO in 2007 and found it no good for my
>needs. I decided to revisit the thing as a result of reading your post.
>I requested to join the forum (Yahoo Group) and am awaiting approval by
>a moderator. Really you know, that group application/approval procedure
>seems to be an archaic, tedious and constipated process, developed by a
>sadist. You should get that fixed.
>
>Hopefully, said process will not entirely defeat my intention to give
>ECCO a fresh retrial. ;-)
Posted by razorboy
Dec 17, 2012 at 12:32 AM
I “applied” to join the InfoSelect yahoo group, and was entirely ignored. Yahoo sent a message two weeks later saying that my application was not responded to. As a result, I won’t be buying Info Select, since I would never buy such software if there was not a forum I could participate in. Tech support/sales said that they have nothing to do with the forum. In all, it seems very odd to me.
Slartibartfarst wrote:
@JimSpoon: Thanks. I last tried ECCO in 2007 and found it no good for my
>needs. I decided to revisit the thing as a result of reading your post.
>I requested to join the forum (Yahoo Group) and am awaiting approval by
>a moderator. Really you know, that group application/approval procedure
>seems to be an archaic, tedious and constipated process, developed by a
>sadist. You should get that fixed.
>
>Hopefully, said process will not entirely defeat my intention to give
>ECCO a fresh retrial. ;-)
Posted by jimspoon
Dec 17, 2012 at 01:38 AM
Hi - I hope they don’t mind, but I’ve uploaded the key Ecco files and manual pdf to a shared folder on Dropbox - this is the link :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wgcy1a4m9bjb1o8/j3CMqzSGkx
Be sure to run them through your virus scanner.
jim
p.s. it’s a good idea to join the Ecco Pro group anyway, they’re very helpful. And the latest updated version of the extension is always there. I do wish they’d make it all a lot easier.
jim