CRIMPING with ConnectedText, Brainstorm, and ResophNotes

Started by tradercclee on 8/17/2012
tradercclee 8/17/2012 5:42 pm
I've been a long time fan of Brainstorm...
Started to create so much info that it became cumbersome to navigate through the file.

Moved over to ConnectedText.

Love it intellectually.
Can't get myself to use it regularly, however.
Bought it, spent time learning it, dread using it...

Unfortunately, there's some sort of barrier that prevents me to *want to* use it.
Maybe it's the Markup... Or the separate edit mode.
Every time I open up the CT, I feel like my motivation to enter notes sapping away.

Once again, I love the power of CT.
But what's the use if I can't get myself to enjoy using it?

Just discovering ResophNotes...
Looks promising.

I'd love a hybrid of Brainstorm and something that gives better search, tagging, etc etc...

Any thoughts?




tradercclee 8/17/2012 7:08 pm
Adding to the thought:

Are there any tools similar to ResophNotes, but the plain text note area is a single pane outliner?

I love the ability to tag and create/search topics on the fly...
It'd be perfect if I can enter the notes using an outliner format.


Alexander Deliyannis 8/17/2012 9:24 pm
tradercclee wrote:
Are there any tools similar to ResophNotes, but the plain
text note area is a single pane outliner?

Depends what you mean 'similar to ResophNotes'. If you want the Simplenote syncing functionality, see the full list of clients here http://simplenoteapp.com/downloads/ Unfortunately the choice for Windows is very limited.

However, you could use any one pane outliner which can output plain text (including the level info) and copy/paste that into ResophNotes. An option could be EmEditor with the outline plug-in http://www.emeditor.com/modules/tutorials4/index.php?id=23

As far as I remember, you don't need to keep the outline tree pane open; you can do your outlining in the main pane as if it were a single pane outliner.
Stephen Zeoli 8/18/2012 1:18 pm
You should give Noteliner a try. It has some of the aspects of Brainstorm, but doesn't restrict you to a perpetual hoist view. It also allows tagging and has a decent search. I'm not sure how well it handles oodles of data, as I've never put it to that kind of use.

http://www.noteliner.org/i/Main.html

BTW, for other Noteliner users, it looks like Sam has just released an update.

Steve Z.

tradercclee wrote:
I'd love a hybrid of Brainstorm and something
that gives better search, tagging, etc etc...

Any thoughts?




tradercclee 8/18/2012 5:43 pm
Thanks Alex + Steve.

I tried Noteliner and liked it.

What I'd really love is this:

- Editing notes as a tree outline, and saving each note in a separate file (like plain text notes in ResophNotes)
- Being able to search through the separate outlines on the fly. (The Search feature ResophNotes filters the notes/files really nicely)
- Tagging the outlines.
- Linking to other outlines using wiki-links

Basically, retaining all the features in ResophNotes, except each note is an outline, instead of plain text. :)

Maybe I'll find an outliner that easily reads/saves tabbed plain text files, and I'll use this with ResophNotes.

Thanks again for your ideas.


Alexander Deliyannis 8/18/2012 6:07 pm
tradercclee wrote:
Maybe I'll find an outliner that easily
reads/saves tabbed plain text files, and I'll use this with ResophNotes.

That was the idea of my proposal for EmEditor. You wouldn't even need to save the file, just copy/paste the outline content to your note in ResophNotes.

One thing I like about EmEditor is that you can customise what character you use to denote outline levels, so you can use something other than tab which takes a lot of space and can't be used inside some editing environments.


tradercclee 8/18/2012 6:27 pm
Thanks, I'll check out EmEditor now.

Other candidates for this:

OPML editor (I use this editor a lot): http://home.opml.org/
- I can copy/paste outlines in and out of the OPML file

NotePad++
- free Plaintext Editor that supports code folding. (I can define keyword to make folding happen)
(It's not a true Outliner view though...)



tradercclee 8/18/2012 7:32 pm
Figured out a good solution.

Alex: Tried EmEditor's outline mode and found it too rudimentary. Thanks for the suggestion.

This is what I'm going with:

First, have this free program installed:
Text Editor Anywhere
http://www.listary.com/text-editor-anywhere

This is what Text Editor Anywhere does:
When you're editing text in a text field (ResophNotes, ConnectedText, Gmail, or anything else), you can press Windows-A.

This command copies the entire text field and opens up a new temp file in your favorite text editor (user-defined).

You can then edit the text in your defined editor.

When you're done, you save the temp file and exit your favorite editor.

After you do this, the new text is pasted back into the original text field you're working with.
Pretty handy little tool.

So, I made Text Editor Anywhere open up the free OPML editor when I press Windows-A.

When I'm editing ResophNotes notes, I shoot the text to the OPML editor.
I then use OPML to write notes.
The tree outliner format works great.

When I'm done, a tab-delimited text is shot back to ResophNotes and saved as a plain text file.
Works great!






Alexander Deliyannis 8/21/2012 11:08 pm
Glad you found a workable solution and most grateful for the link top Text Editor Anywhere. I didn't know such a utility even existed but it is just what I need for my text editing needs. Brilliant!