I note that Liquid Story Binder is about to feature again on BitsDuJour. Does anyone have any experience of this? Looks like a fascinating program, capable of a vast array of different information-handling approaches - it's definitely tweaked my CRIMPing gene!

More at http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com/ (BitsDuJour impending offer at http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/liquid-story-binder/src=day/?utm_campaign=345788&utm_content=1474546899&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Emailvision

Cheers,
Bill

A search for "Liquid Story Binder" shows that it's been mentioned several times here in the past, albeit rather briefly. The occasions have usually been promotions in Bits du Jour and other websites. In fact, I believe that LSB is a permanent resident of BdJ "Hot Deals" which are not time limited.

From previous discussions, it seems to be a rather overloaded program; the developer seems to have no shortage of ideas and energy, judging from recent additions to the list of features:

- Mindmaps: Link ideas together using lines and text.
- Full Screen Editing: Even though Liquid Story Binder is packed with features, sometimes less is more.
- A Typewriter for Your PC: The ultimate tool for distraction-free writing.

I had a license for a previous version of Liquid Story Binder, but haven't used the application in several years. My experience of it is that all those great tools are not well integrated. For example, the outliner was not connected to the text of your story, it was just like a separate, unintegrated tool. As Alexander says, however, the developer was (is?) very active, so it is possible that he has improved this aspect.

Nevertheless, I would suggest, just based upon my own, older experience, you'll find Scrivener for Windows a better (though far from perfect) alternative. Still, worth giving it a spin.

Steve Z.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

I had a license for a previous version of Liquid Story Binder, but haven't used the
application in several years.

According to their website "All future updates and upgrades are absolutely free." That seems to be quite rare these days...

Hi, I am going to get it during the promotion, even though I currently use Storybook Pro as a planning tool and Ultra Recall as a researching tool and writing environment.

LSB has a lot of good features as a dedicated writing environment that are worth having, especially since lifetime upgrades are free and it's UNDER $14!!

It has a big learning curve, but provides a multi-featured "canvas" for your planning and/or story. It's a no-brainer at that price.

Best, /Pavi

Hi!
Does anybody know whether it supports footnotes/endnotes?
Wojciech

Hi, I don't think it does as it was designed for novels, which infrequently use footnotes. I have written here before about using Ultra Recall (or Writing Outliner) with Mendeley or Zotero. However, Liquid Story Binder is a great addition if you write without footnotes/references, and has a LOT of tools. I purchased it for those times I just want to write without distractions, or make a more complex compilation of writing, images, mindmaps, etc.

Best, /Pavi

Wojciech wrote:

Hi!
Does anybody know whether it supports footnotes/endnotes?
Wojciech

Thanks, Pavi, it sounds encouragingly. After all, if I need references I can use Harvard style.
Wojciech

Pavi wrote:

Hi, I don't think it does as it was designed for novels, which infrequently use
footnotes. I have written here before about using Ultra Recall (or Writing Outliner)
with Mendeley or Zotero. However, Liquid Story Binder is a great addition if you write
without footnotes/references, and has a LOT of tools. I purchased it for those times I
just want to write without distractions, or make a more complex compilation of
writing, images, mindmaps, etc.

Best, /Pavi

Wojciech wrote:
>Hi!
>Does
anybody know whether it supports footnotes/endnotes?
>Wojciech

You can certainly put the reference markers in the text; however as was mentioned its more drafting software than anything else (Scrivener for Windows only has end-nodes, not footnotes.) Citation managers usually allow you to process an RTF file (Bookends for mac does, Zotero for windows does) so you can export finished text from LSB and either run it through a citation tool; if you want more control you'll need better citation software or to use a Word/OpenOffice plugin and open it from there. In the case of Scrivener, the developer is very overt that the type of tool both of those apps are is for doing the bulk writing and then tossing in to a word processor for the final touches.

-JC

Wojciech wrote:

Thanks, Pavi, it sounds encouragingly. After all, if I need references I can use
Harvard style.
Wojciech