to UltraRecall & everything else. Thread begun on UltraRecall

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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA

Jan,

I, too, use PersonalBrain; saw the thread on the UR forum and saw that the discussion was taken offline. Can you or Ian give me some pointers on using PB in conjunction with UR? Thanks.

Jan (or anyone),

What's the status on Personal Brain 4.0? I see it is in beta. Have you tried it and is it an improvement?

Thank you.

Steve Z

Using Personal Brian as a front end to UltraRecall, or OneNote 2007, or Whizfolders is simple... Each of these 3 'notes' applications provides the means to copy URL's to their content. In the case of UR, called the Item Command Line, with On eNote & WF, you can also copy URL's to content within 'Items' - such as paragraph headers, specific words or phrases in the Item/Note.

So once you have a URL from one of these apps copied to the clipboard, you can then just paste it into the url field in Personal Brian. Then, PB treats them as clickable links, just like web urls, and you can thus navigate to that specific content in UR, or OneNote, or Whizfolders (or any other application that provides special windows url protocols - so that would include ConnectedText too)...

Personal Brain 4 is still in beta - currently V4.0.5.0. I have been using it since the first beta was released. They spent, and still spend a great deal of time making the graphical capability better and better, as that is their 'sweet spot'. New features though are developing thick and fast - and they seem committed to a massive amount of future development. I think this time (it wasn't the case with earlier versions) - that they are going to really keep evolving its capabilities, and make it into a true 'killer app'. I believe its now possible for anyone to register to download the beta...

The only other app of its kind that I am waiting for with baited breath is Tinderbox for Windows, from Eastgate systems - which is supposed to be released in beta in July.

Ian Goldsmid wrote:

Using Personal Brian as a front end to UltraRecall, or OneNote 2007, or Whizfolders is
simple... Each of these 3 'notes' applications provides the means to copy URL's to
their content.

Evernote, too, provides URLs to entries or categories of entries. Another application that provides such links is Outlook (with the help of freeware Outlook Linker)

One thing I am worried about is whether such URLs change when the content is re-organised. In the case of Outlook and Evernote I know that they provide a unique and permament link to each entry, but I don't know about UR or WF. This would be crucial in order to maintain a valid reference from the front end.

This kind of functionality is about the only thing I miss in Brainstorm and Zoot. Brainstorm's entry identifiers are not permanent, while Zoot, as far as I can tell, does not provide such URLs (though I may easily be mistaken, overwhelmed by what else it offers!)

Last but not least, URLs to content are on the coming-soon feature list for Surfulater, a powerful app on which I'll be posting separately.

alx

These things are like buses. You wait around for years (literally) and then 2 turn up at once.

I agree with Ian's assessment of PB4 - new features, tweaks to existing ones and bug fixes are being added rapidly during the beta and the developers seem committed to adding features after the beta is completed and official release occurs.

My own use of PB includes using it as a font end to OneNote. OneNote's 'print into' feature is good for capturing conent from other applications and the notes part of PB4 is more suited to adding brief summary notes to help searching rather large amounts of content.

I'll have to admit that I'd assumed that Tinderbox for Windows would never seen see the light of day. I'll be interested in trying it when it is available.

Nigel



Ian Goldsmid wrote:

The only other app of its kind that I am waiting for with baited breath is
Tinderbox for Windows, from Eastgate systems - which is supposed to be released in
beta in July.

Hi.

The only other app of its kind that I am waiting for with baited breath is
Tinderbox for Windows, from Eastgate systems - which is supposed to be released in
beta in July.

Who told you so?

Franz

Alexander Deliyannis wrote:

One thing I am worried about is whether
such URLs change when the content is re-organised. In the case of Outlook and Evernote
I know that they provide a unique and permament link to each entry, but I don't know
about UR or WF. This would be crucial in order to maintain a valid reference from the
front end.
alx

Hi Alex

I can confirm that UR & WF links are permanent.

Ian

A great idea.
I am a big fan of the PersonalBrain concept and interface but stopped using it long ago because of poor support and no further development for years. PB4 is very promising but the pricing is too high.

I am thinking of using MindManager to link to UR items.

Dominik

Franz Grieser wrote:

Hi.

>The only other app of its kind that I am waiting for with baited breath is

>Tinderbox for Windows, from Eastgate systems - which is supposed to be released in

>beta in July.

Who told you so?

Franz

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Bernstein [mailto:bernstein@eastgate.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:08 AM
To: Ian Goldsmid
Subject: RE: windows version

Hi Mark

Any time soon? When?

Looks like July, most likely. Burning midnight oil

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Bernstein [mailto:bernstein@eastgate.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:08 AM
To: Ian Goldsmid
Subject: RE: windows version

Hi Mark

Any time soon? When?

Looks like July, most likely. Burning midnight oil