Oh, My! There are all those goodies out there. I'd love to try them all and actually use some. (Although, I admit, that as long as GrandView was easily useable, that is what I used most.)

However, now that I am retired, almost all of my PIMing (or is it PIMming?) is for personal information. Information that I might use for years to come. Thus, I have to restrain myself to using only a few PIMs and not be constantly using new ones. Moving data from an older PIM to a newer one is just too daunting.

One problem: Sometimes development of a favorite PIM ceases, so it is without the benefit of new technology, such as Tabs. Worse, it might not work properly, or at all, in a newer version of an operating system. Rumor has it that Windows 8 will be substantially different from its predecessors---I'm worried.

One vital criterion is that one can export the information in a PIM to some standard format, such as rtf or html. One may still have ones information, but it will not necessarily be in an easily accessible form.

Oh! What to do?

What to do? Simple. Stick with one PIM and system, and be happy what you have.
You mention Win 8, who apart from M$ cares about it? XP does all you need, no need for Vista, 7, ... whatever ...

quant wrote:

What to do? Simple. Stick with one PIM and system, and be happy what you have.
You
mention Win 8, who apart from M$ cares about it? XP does all you need, no need for Vista,
7, ... whatever ...

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Quant, I agree and am still running XP. (GoBack won't work in newer versions of Windows.)
But....eventually ones computer will die of old age and one may have no choice but to get a new one with a newer OS. (Like the human body--mine, for instance--eventually parts wear or stop working and replacements may not be available.)

I'm sorry people, but I have to ask this total newbie question... what is CRIMPing? I am sure I do it, but Ii cannot find anywhere what it stands for [I assume it is an acronym... } I have Googled for hours, I have sat stroking my beard for hours, I have asked family, friends, work colleagues [why do Americans call them coworkers?, sounds rude to me], the man who delivers my milk, the women at my grandson's nursery... no one can enlighten me so I could be quietly all-knowing here on this forum.... so eventually, after much time-wasting, procrastination, rumination, trying many sources, etc., I have to reveal my naivete.
Jeff

Jeff,

You'd been unlikely to find a definition for CRIMPing anywhere but on this forum. It's a made up acronym that stands for Compulsive-Reactive Information Manager Purchasing. i.e. It's what so many of us do here, because we are never satisfied with the information managers we currently use, so we continually look for better ones. It's kind of an obsession.

Steve

MenAgerie wrote:

I'm sorry people, but I have to ask this total newbie question... what is CRIMPing? I am
sure I do it, but Ii cannot find anywhere what it stands for [I assume it is an acronym...
} I have Googled for hours, I have sat stroking my beard for hours, I have asked family,
friends, work colleagues [why do Americans call them coworkers?, sounds rude to me],
the man who delivers my milk, the women at my grandson's nursery... no one can
enlighten me so I could be quietly all-knowing here on this forum.... so eventually,
after much time-wasting, procrastination, rumination, trying many sources, etc.,
I have to reveal my naivete.
Jeff

Oh dear, I'm afflicted.
Thanks Steve, its good to have a name for it.
Jeff

Blimey, I've got a seriously bad case, then... and it's going to get worse. I've been playing with news readers FlipBoard, Zite, Pulse and SkyGrid on the iPad, and now I'm looking for an information manager (kind of outliner, I suppose, so not TOTALLY off-topic) which allows you to input and access information in the same flowing, scrolling way. It's amazingly natural once you get used to it, as is the drilling down from brief summaries (of articles) into the main article content. It could also be a great way to write a book.

I'm sure semantic concepts like this exist in the outliner world, but I can't think of any really good ones (as in: intuitive/easy to use) apart, possibly, from MyInfo, which is actually quite clever (sorry, you can tell I'm in CRIMPing mode...), and my other favourite Smereka.

Can anybody think of somebody who's invented a kind of tiled outliner with summaries, thematic association (autotagging, as I like to call it) and a nice, intuitive interface? Suggestions welcome!

To CRIMP or not to CRIMP: that's not even a question.
Whether 'tis nobler of mind to suffer
the slings and arrows of spousal contempt
or, by leaving the forum, end them....

CRIMP is a form of compulsive buying disorder. I've had it for years.

"Compulsive buying disorder (CBD) is characterized by excessive shopping cognitions and buying behavior that leads to distress or impairment. Found worldwide, the disorder has a lifetime prevalence of 5.8% in the US general population. Most subjects studied clinically are women (~80%), though this gender difference may be artifactual. Subjects with CBD report a preoccupation with shopping, prepurchase tension or anxiety, and a sense of relief following the purchase. CBD is associated with significant psychiatric comorbidity, particularly mood and anxiety disorders, substance use disorders, eating disorders, and other disorders of impulse control. The majority of persons with CBD appear to meet criteria for an Axis II disorder, although there is no special "shopping" personality."

Searching for the perfect outliner is a variant of CBD. The only cure is poverty.

While GrandView was highly usable (through Win 2000) and capable, I felt no CRIMP sensations. After it became unwieldy (in Win XP), I did develop CRIMP and tried a plethora of software. I finally settled on a relatively few programs (the MS standards and Jot+, myBase, Inspiration). Although I used a few others for a while (NoteMap, Ecco, TreePad) I finally abandoned them.

Lately, although I'm now retired, I've been feeling a bit CRIMPish again. Possibly because Jot+ is getting a bit long in the tooth (as am I) and development of it has almost stopped. However almost all of the newer software I've looked at seems to offer little more than what I have, but with high learning curves I do not wish to scale. One exception is Cinta Notes, which is easy to use for making quick notes.

P.S. Much of the software I've recently looked at seems to belong to the category of "NOT getting things done."

MadaboutDana wrote:

... an information manager (kind of outliner, I suppose, so not TOTALLY
off-topic) which allows you to input and access information in the same flowing,
scrolling way. It's amazingly natural once you get used to it, as is the drilling down
from brief summaries (of articles) into the main article content.

I'm most intrigued by the above description but unfortunately, as a non-mobil user, I cannot really comprehend what it's like to use these newsreader application. Perhaps someone could (maybe in another thread) put some meat on the bones.

I also have no experience of MyInfo or Smereka but after a quick look around their websites I cannot see any significant difference from Ultra Recall, which is my current PIM of choice. So what is it about this "flowing, scrolling way" that is so different?