Trying to Trust Launchy

Started by Daly de Gagne on 3/24/2007
Daly de Gagne 3/24/2007 5:59 pm
Just when I got to the point where I thought I could trust UltraRecall to always act accurately, I discovered that about five web pages I had used Launchy to copy into UR had not appeared in UR.

So by the time I get back to the pages, it'll be half an hour down the tubes.

Has anyone ever had problems with Launch not doing what it should?

Daly
Graham Rhind 3/24/2007 7:37 pm
Hi Daly,

I don't know about Launchy, but I did report to the UltraRecall forum a problem with copying web pages into UR - see http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2391

No response yet. If you're getting the same problem it might be useful to also report it.

Graham

Daly de Gagne wrote:
Just when I got to the point where I thought I could trust UltraRecall to always act
accurately, I discovered that about five web pages I had used Launchy to copy into UR
had not appeared in UR.

So by the time I get back to the pages, it'll be half an hour down
the tubes.

Has anyone ever had problems with Launch not doing what it should?

Daly
Kenneth Rhee 3/24/2007 7:52 pm


Daly de Gagne wrote:
Just when I got to the point where I thought I could trust UltraRecall to always act
accurately, I discovered that about five web pages I had used Launchy to copy into UR
had not appeared in UR.

So by the time I get back to the pages, it'll be half an hour down
the tubes.

Has anyone ever had problems with Launch not doing what it should?

Daly
Kenneth Rhee 3/24/2007 7:54 pm
Daly,

I have not had any problem with Launchy within Firefox 2.0x with UR 3 (now 3.02).

It does take UR a bit time to import the page; so, I'm not sure what happens if you copy multiple pages quickly before UR finishes copying one page. I tend to copy one at a time and make sure it is copied over to UR, and so far I haven't had any problem with more than 100 copies.

Ken

Daly de Gagne wrote:
Just when I got to the point where I thought I could trust UltraRecall to always act
accurately, I discovered that about five web pages I had used Launchy to copy into UR
had not appeared in UR.

So by the time I get back to the pages, it'll be half an hour down
the tubes.

Has anyone ever had problems with Launch not doing what it should?

Daly
Jan Rifkinson 3/25/2007 1:04 am
Ken, Daly & Graham re: Launchy & UR browser problems. I could not get Launchy to work properly in FF although I could copy & paste from FF into URp w/o a problem mostly. But then I decided to try URp's IE browser (IE6) & that integrates beautifully w/o issue. Copying links is not a problem, nor copying pages. If I need to copy a secure site, like a bank site for a receipt or something, either I resort to text only or Net Snippets. Roboform works just fine with URp so I don't have to worry about passwords, etc. I imported all my IE favoriters as well as FF bookmarks into URp w/o incident. Sometimes I actually miss FF but not as often as I thought I might. IE seems a bit slower than FF but that could be my connection.... crappy DSL. Ken you can speed up linking by changing your options not to keyword. Otherwise it seems like an endlessssssssssss process to me. I think URp 302 still has a few bugs but, in my experience, they are few & far between. Just my .02

--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Chris Murtland 3/25/2007 1:16 am
FWIW, I haven't had any problems just dragging web content into Ultra Recall - if it's a secure page, just selecting what you want on the page will let you capture it. Also copy from a web page in Firefox, then a Win+V will capture to UR without bringing it to the front.

Daly, another idea, which I haven't tried - since you can now synchronize file folders in UR 3, you could probably use the Firefox ScrapBook extension and then just set up a synchronized item in UR that points to your ScrapBook data directory. You'd have to sync occasionally (Ctrl+F5), but that may be a suitable workaround if you just want to clip at will from Firefox.

I tend to just arrange my windows so that the UR tree is visible to the left behind my Firefox window. Then I can drag stuff over to it.

Chris


Kenneth Rhee 3/25/2007 1:32 am
Jan,

Thanks for the tip about turning off keywords. I don't transfer too many web pages consecutively to have found the delay unacceptable. Also, Launchy has worked perfectly for me in my system; so, it's not a big deal for me to wait while things are imported in the background.

Thanks.

Jan Rifkinson wrote:
Ken, Daly & Graham re: Launchy & UR browser problems. I could not get Launchy to work
properly in FF although I could copy & paste from FF into URp w/o a problem mostly. But
then I decided to try URp's IE browser (IE6) & that integrates beautifully w/o issue.
Copying links is not a problem, nor copying pages. If I need to copy a secure site, like a
bank site for a receipt or something, either I resort to text only or Net Snippets.
Roboform works just fine with URp so I don't have to worry about passwords, etc. I
imported all my IE favoriters as well as FF bookmarks into URp w/o incident. Sometimes
I actually miss FF but not as often as I thought I might. IE seems a bit slower than FF but
that could be my connection.... crappy DSL. Ken you can speed up linking by changing
your options not to keyword. Otherwise it seems like an endlessssssssssss process to
me. I think URp 302 still has a few bugs but, in my experience, they are few & far between.
Just my .02

--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Daly de Gagne 3/25/2007 12:50 pm
Chris, Jan, thanks for the tips.

I can not drag and drop at all.

Even within UR I am not able to get the program to store web pages properly.

Later, when I have more time to waster (sorry if I sound angry but today was already fully booked with real work) I will removed UR from my system and do a reinstall.



Daly
Chris Murtland 3/25/2007 1:55 pm
Daly,

Just curious - I wonder if you have the UR option checked to "use Mozilla Firefox as internal browser;" I wonder if something happened to the Mozilla ActiveX control with the latest Firefox update. I use Firefox as my normal browser, but have NOT set that option in UR, and I have never had a single instance of a failed web capture from Firefox to UR with thousands of pages captured.

From UR help:

"Use Mozilla/Firefox internal browser control: If checked, the Mozilla ActiveX Control will be used to host web pages in the internal browser. If unchecked, Internet Explorer will be used in the internal browser.

Notes:

· The Mozilla ActiveX Control must be installed in order to use this option.

· We do not provide support for the Mozilla control, and using it might result in Ultra Recall becoming less stable or responsive. Also, some functionality, such as print/print preview and other browser options above, will not be available when using the Mozilla control as the browser."

Of course, this doesn't help if you aren't using the Firefox option in UR - just thought I'd mention that option is not required to actually use external Firefox with UR.

Chris

Cassius 3/25/2007 3:46 pm
Chris suggested some possible problems in UltraRecall saving pages from Firefox. Here's another:

Firefox' s latest update, ver. 2.0.0.3, apparently has some problems. As I posted a couple of days ago, it appears to conflict with NoteBox Disorganizer, causing an almost complete computer lockup. Using GoBack, I restored ver. 2.0.0.2. The problem then disappeared. So... which version were you using?

Also, I'm a belt, suspenders, and safety pin man: I always check. Just this morning, MyBase failed twice to properly store a Web page. However the third time was the proverbial charm: Pniceage stored perfectly.

By the way, NoteBox Disorganizer has a lot of nice features, but at my age, I think the learning curve is more than I'm willing to tackle. I only played with it.

As I regularly tell my wife, computers are like children, they do not always behave properly. (Of course, in the case of MS, they are always finding new ways to get into trouble.)

-c