PKM Comparison Chart

Started by Luhmann on 12/16/2024
Luhmann 12/16/2024 5:06 am
Hi folks. I haven't posted here in ages, but that is because I've been very content with Logseq - and still am. However, there are so many new competitors to logseq that I decided I would do a quick survey of the state of the art. It is far from complete, but I've made a little chart that I wanted to share with you all.

You can see it here:

https://luhmann-logseq.notion.site/PKM-Comparison-Chart-15ebd7204f5f80209122f1bfeed92faf?pvs=4

I’ve seen several other feature comparison charts out there, but none capture the features I’ve come to depend on in Logseq. Since these are the features I look for when I am comparing Logseq to other PKM apps, that is what I wanted to see. (Although there are two features I want that are either missing or only partially implemented in Logseq.) This is an idiosyncratic list, and doesn’t aim to be comprehensive.

Be sure to click on an app name to see the notes if you are wondering why I labeled certain features as incomplete.

At the bottom of the page are other apps I intend to add when I have time.

I first learned of Logseq here so I felt it was only right to post this chart here as well. Cheers.
Stephen Zeoli 12/16/2024 10:41 am
Nice table and interesting list of must-haves. I've never heard of Orca before.

I suggest the next app you try is Craft. Version 3.0 nails task management. The only squiffy feature may be outlining. Not sure it will prove robust enough for you.

Thanks!

Steve
Luhmann 12/16/2024 11:49 am
I've tried Craft 3.0. Not a fan, but I do plan to add it to the chart.
MadaboutDana 12/16/2024 3:22 pm
Love the table – great demo of why Notion is so competent, too!

Couple of thoughts:
- Obsidian does now offer native outlining/folding
- Obsidian plugins do offer calendar integration (ICS, iCAL), as well as transclusion editing (the amazing “Hover Editor”, which has been around for quite a while)
- I would strongly suggest adding acreom (acreom.com, or for code and updates: https://github.com/Acreom/app

I hear what you say about Craft. I’ve tried to love it, but while it produces gorgeous documents, there’s something somehow... disconnected about it, despite all the efforts to turn it into a fully connected, interlinked app. Amazing for producing good-looking mailers, mind you!

Luhmann wrote:
> I've tried Craft 3.0. Not a fan, but I do plan to add it to the chart.
Luhmann 12/16/2024 9:21 pm
Thanks. I'll check out acreom as well.
Luhmann 12/20/2024 1:55 am
I'm done working on this (for now). You can see the final chart here: https://bit.ly/pkmchart

Please read the text which explains the standards I used and the reasoning behind them. I know many people here would have made a very different chart.
Stephen Zeoli 12/21/2024 11:26 am
Love your chart and your explanations.

If you added Reflect to this chart, I believe it would score at least a 6, maybe a 7. It's your chart, so I'm not suggesting you do add Reflect, but I have to mention it, because it is my primary notes app and I think it is great.

Steve
Luhmann 12/21/2024 11:27 pm
Thanks. I'll take a look.
Luhmann 12/28/2024 10:25 pm
I added some new apps to the chart and redid some of the features to be clearer about what I am looking for.

What I learned from my effort to compare 12 other PKMs to Logseq:

1. I can't live without "click to zoom" outlining.

Ever since I first used Workflowy, I've never wanted to use a note taking app that didn't have this, and yet very few PKMs implement this. Besides Logseq, only Orca and Tana have it, though there is a plugin that will implement it in Obsidian.

2. I need a full fledged task manager.

This is why I originally switched from Roam to Logseq. Most PKMs have some kind of task check boxes, and some have the ability to expand on those via "supertags" of some kind, but very few have built-in task managers that let you assign a status and a deadline to individual tasks, not to mention having repeating tasks and priorities, etc. Besides Logseq only Amplenote fit the bill, though there are plugins for Orca and Obsidian that bring them a bit closer to Logseq.

3. Aliases are essential.

I have come to depend on the alias feature in Logseq. For one thing, I live and work in a multilingual environment and often refer to the same thing using different langauges. Having true aliases makes the wikilinks feature of Logseq work for me no matter which word I use. Some apps, like Obsidian, let you use different text to link to something, but it isn't the same as having true parity between different names for the same page. Besides Logseq, Remnote, Reflect, Orca, and Siyuan are the only ones I found that have this ability.

4. Logseq falls short with mobile and calendars

Although Logseq beat out all the competitors in almost every feature I looked at, there were two where it fell short. Almost all the apps (except Orca, Siyuan, and Tana) had full fledged mobile apps that seem to be more robust than what Logseq currently offers. Hopefully that will be fixed with the upgrade to the DB version. Also, a number of apps allowed you to sync your calendars with the PKM, something I hope Logseq will eventually adopt.

https://bit.ly/pkmchart