EverDesk on Bits
Started by Stephen Zeoli
on 2/13/2009
Stephen Zeoli
2/13/2009 2:18 pm
Hi,
I recall a discussion of EverDesk here a few weeks ago, and thought some of you might be interested in knowing that ED will be on sale at Bits du Jour next Thursday, February 19.
http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/everdesk-optima/
Steve Z.
I recall a discussion of EverDesk here a few weeks ago, and thought some of you might be interested in knowing that ED will be on sale at Bits du Jour next Thursday, February 19.
http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/everdesk-optima/
Steve Z.
Alexander Deliyannis
2/13/2009 5:43 pm
Many thank Steve,
From my part I opted for EverDesk Mail, the cheaper mail-only version. The one on sale is Optima which doubles as a file manager. Optima requires that e-mail be saved on a subdirectory of the main (My Documents) folder, whereas Mail is more flexible in this respect.
They are both competent applications, though rather rough around the edges. They need further development and that seems to be the reason the company hasn't chosen to promote them aggresively.
That said, support is indeed excellent, with my mails answered fast and feature suggestions being well considered. When I found and reported a bug, it was no more than a week before a new version came out fixing it.
All in all, well worth the investment in my view, even if it doesn't take the place of your main mail client just yet. Its ability to save mail as separate .eml files is excelent for backup.
Alexander
From my part I opted for EverDesk Mail, the cheaper mail-only version. The one on sale is Optima which doubles as a file manager. Optima requires that e-mail be saved on a subdirectory of the main (My Documents) folder, whereas Mail is more flexible in this respect.
They are both competent applications, though rather rough around the edges. They need further development and that seems to be the reason the company hasn't chosen to promote them aggresively.
That said, support is indeed excellent, with my mails answered fast and feature suggestions being well considered. When I found and reported a bug, it was no more than a week before a new version came out fixing it.
All in all, well worth the investment in my view, even if it doesn't take the place of your main mail client just yet. Its ability to save mail as separate .eml files is excelent for backup.
Alexander
Daly de Gagne
2/13/2009 11:29 pm
Alexander, is there any indication from the company that it will deal with some of the rough edges. I tried Optima, and was just about ready to buy it, but was aware that the email component is not all that fully featured. I'd like to be able to thread msgs, and to have better tagging options. On the other hand, incorporating email into the regular file system seems to make a great deal of sense.
Your thought and experiences are appreciated. Thanks.
Daly
Your thought and experiences are appreciated. Thanks.
Daly
Pierre Paul Landry
2/14/2009 2:06 am
Daly de Gagne wrote:
On the other hand, incorporating email into the
regular file system seems to make a great deal of sense.
Microsoft live mail (outlook express successor) also saves each message as an .eml file (and it's free). It is a bit limited but has 1 really feature: Sending pictures is fast and easy. Many layout choices and pictures are sent to a web server, not to the destination. So the email people get is very small, with links to the larger picture file. All this is completely transparent.
Alexander Deliyannis
2/14/2009 6:26 am
@ Daly: The company, through my discussions with Vladimir at support (who has also addressed this forum in the past http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/913/0/everdesk ), seems quite ambitious in its development, though we haven't specifically discussed threading and tagging. That said, it hasn't been long since my original contact with the software to comment on the speed of development.
@ Pierre Paul: Is there a way to get MS Live Mail while in XP? I thought that it was Vista-only. Also, it's been a while since I attempted to try MS Office Live but at the time it was US-only. Has that changed or is Live Mail more widely available than Office Live?
@ Pierre Paul: Is there a way to get MS Live Mail while in XP? I thought that it was Vista-only. Also, it's been a while since I attempted to try MS Office Live but at the time it was US-only. Has that changed or is Live Mail more widely available than Office Live?
Lawrence Osborn
2/14/2009 8:42 am
Alexander,
Live Mail is available for XP SP2+ as a free download from Microsoft. See http://download.live.com/wlmail
Yours
Lawrence
Live Mail is available for XP SP2+ as a free download from Microsoft. See http://download.live.com/wlmail
Yours
Lawrence
Alexander Deliyannis
2/18/2009 2:22 pm
Pierre and Lawrence,
Many thanks for the heads up. I'll check this out.
Alexander
Many thanks for the heads up. I'll check this out.
Alexander
Alexander Deliyannis
2/18/2009 9:55 pm
I downloaded Live Mail and it seems to be a most welcome upgrade to Outlook Express. I will surely recommend it to the people I know that still use OE (yes, there are many). As a modern e-mail client there's quite a few things I miss; mostly I think that it has traded configurability for wizard-driven ease of setup.
As far as saving mail messages in .eml format, this is indeed so, but the filenames are coded and there's no way to tell which message is which outside the program.
EverDesk takes the common sense way of naming .eml files by the message subject; the advantage of this is that you can find a message through its filename; the disadvantage is that you can end up with a fair view of 'no subject (n)' messages, where n is the number used to tell messages with the same subject apart.
For people interested in tomorrow's Bits Du Jour offer, without giving too much away, I can say that news from EverDesk's developers suggest a good feature build up in the coming versions. That said, one should primarily (as has been stated over and over again re UltraRecall) buy a software for what it currently offers rather than in anticipation of future development.
Alexander
As far as saving mail messages in .eml format, this is indeed so, but the filenames are coded and there's no way to tell which message is which outside the program.
EverDesk takes the common sense way of naming .eml files by the message subject; the advantage of this is that you can find a message through its filename; the disadvantage is that you can end up with a fair view of 'no subject (n)' messages, where n is the number used to tell messages with the same subject apart.
For people interested in tomorrow's Bits Du Jour offer, without giving too much away, I can say that news from EverDesk's developers suggest a good feature build up in the coming versions. That said, one should primarily (as has been stated over and over again re UltraRecall) buy a software for what it currently offers rather than in anticipation of future development.
Alexander