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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Dec 5, 2022 at 09:14 PM
I don’t know about improving, but personally I’m happy enough if things don’t get worse by an acquisition.
A (rare) case in point is Trello; though I am not a user myself, my understanding is that its acquisition by Atlassian didn’t spoil it.
https://blog.trello.com/trello-atlassian
The integration between Trello and Confluence would apparently be possible even without the acquisition, but that’s OK too:
https://support.atlassian.com/confluence-cloud/docs/use-trello-and-confluence-together/
As for Evernote, with more than 80,000 notes in my account, I really hope that it will be spared the fate of the examples you gave!
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>BTW, I am interested in counterpoints… where the acquisition of an
>established app ended up improving the service for the users. Any
>thoughts?
Posted by rafael costacurta
Dec 5, 2022 at 10:22 PM
Automattic (of wordpress fame) bought Simplenote sometime ago…. And Simplenote looks to be working just fine…. Not much new stuff being added, but, you know, it’s the SIMPLEnote…
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>
>BTW, I am interested in counterpoints… where the acquisition of an
>established app ended up improving the service for the users. Any
>thoughts?
>
>Steve
Posted by Anthony
Dec 6, 2022 at 03:32 PM
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>BTW, I am interested in counterpoints… where the acquisition of an established app ended up improving the service for the users. Any thoughts?
Examples are reactive materials: difficult to find and to manage. But let me try.
A speculation first. Acquisitions occur in at least two ways, i.e. in two directions. Either because the market of that app is growing, or because it is shrinking. The future is uncertain though, so it is not always possible to ascertain which case is which. Apart this “small” identification problem, the prospects of the former case seems usually better than the latter.
Examples:
Let me start with a classic outliner: MindManager. It seems still in relatively good health (at least for the corporate market).
It was created in the 1990s, then it was sold, in its infancy, by its inventor, Mike Jetter. At the beginning of 2000 MM XP was very good for personal use in my opinion. Then Corel acquired Mindjet (MM’s software house) in 2016: I guess corporate users did not complain.
Another similar example in the knowledge domain maybe Endnote, created in 1989. It has changed several time hands. But it seems still an established biblio-app. I shall not venture in the social media, but the temptation of mentioning Instagram and Wathsapp (acquired by Facebook), or Skype acquired in 2011 by Microsoft could be also used as examples of acquisition that did not ruin what they bought.
A good - and mixed - example that illustrates how liquid is the software landscape on this matter, comes from Adobe acquiring Macromedia in 2005: some established apps indeed died (Freehand). However, some others survived and grew so to became standard, such as Dreamweaver.
Posted by yosemite
Dec 8, 2022 at 08:42 PM
I still use Evernote 2.2 sometimes! Why? Because it is fast. FAST. Fastest program I have, I think. Thousands of notes, tables and images and more, instant as-I-type search, blah blah.
Most of my notes now are just text so I’ve switched to Obsidian but also use dynalist and workflowy for outlining excellence.
I don’t follow current Evernote but this news sounds to me like satis is right and it’s in a death spiral.
Posted by steveylang
Dec 8, 2022 at 09:00 PM
That’s crazy…I guess this makes EverNote the MySpace of PKM…
satis wrote:
> At one point Evernote had 250 million users and was valued at $8 billion. Not any more.