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Posted by David Garner
Nov 20, 2022 at 06:17 AM
@Lucas, thanks for the many program/tool mentions. Several I had not heard of before. At least a couple of them look very interesting to me.
Posted by Dellu
Nov 20, 2022 at 01:51 PM
>Scapple is a single corkboard.
You should not forget that Scapple is the little sister of sth big: Scrivener.
You drag your maps to Scrivener, you would have a draft to go. Indeed, if your project is smaller in size, you can do all the drafting in Scapple; and finish it up in Scrivener. They work together really nicely.
Curio is also great. I had experience with it a long time ago: never checked it lately. But, Curiota, the little sister, incredibly effective for jotting small ideas as they pop up in your head.
Posted by Dr Andus
Nov 20, 2022 at 02:16 PM
Lucas wrote:
>For concept mapping I currently use a variety of tools:
>- InfoQube (“Surface” view)
>- linkfacts.link
>- stemic.app
>- Flying Logic
>- CmapTools (a bit outdated but still unparalleled in certain regards)
There is another classic, VUE (https://vue.tufts.edu/), though these days I tend to reach for Plectica (http://www.plectica.com), which lives online, and so is cross-platform and cross-device.
Posted by Amontillado
Nov 20, 2022 at 09:29 PM
No argument. Scapple should be viewed in context with Scrivener. A great combination.
Curio has in the past had rough edges. At present, it’s generally polished.
It’s also always seemed a little old-school and not quite agile enough for real-time note linking. You can take notes quickly enough. Adding linkages between notes is very flexible, and you can create a new idea space (corkboard) linked to a text block with a right-click, but there’s no [[make a link on the fly]] mechanism. Linking takes a little manual effort. That’s probably a deal-killer for many.
Mind mapping is very flexible in Curio, even if it isn’t quite as spiffy looking as purpose-built mind mapping tools. For instance, if your mind map can live with branches no more than three levels deep, you can create a table of contents as a mind map. It will dynamically rebuild to match your hierarchy of idea spaces. Each node has a corkboard, potentially containing yet a deeper table of contents, not just the expected text attachment.
I’ve got an idea I’m outlining now. I’m dithering between Devonthink, Curio, Tinderbox, and Obsidian. Meanwhile, the outline is growing in OmniOutliner because I don’t have to agonize about it. I can just use the thing.
Dellu wrote:
>Scapple is a single corkboard.
>
>You should not forget that Scapple is the little sister of sth big:
>Scrivener.
>
>You drag your maps to Scrivener, you would have a draft to go. Indeed,
>if your project is smaller in size, you can do all the drafting in
>Scapple; and finish it up in Scrivener. They work together really
>nicely.
>
>Curio is also great. I had experience with it a long time ago: never
>checked it lately. But, Curiota, the little sister, incredibly effective
>for jotting small ideas as they pop up in your head.
Posted by Dellu
Nov 21, 2022 at 04:46 AM
Amontillado wrote:
>Mind mapping is very flexible in Curio, even if it isn’t quite as spiffy
>looking as purpose-built mind mapping tools. For instance, if your mind
>map can live with branches no more than three levels deep, you can
>create a table of contents as a mind map. It will dynamically rebuild to
>match your hierarchy of idea spaces. Each node has a corkboard,
>potentially containing yet a deeper table of contents, not just the
>expected text attachment.
>
>I’ve got an idea I’m outlining now. I’m dithering between Devonthink,
>Curio, Tinderbox, and Obsidian. Meanwhile, the outline is growing in
>OmniOutliner because I don’t have to agonize about it. I can just use
>the thing.
I used to have a similar, multiple-tool system at some point. I have tried Curio for some time. The maps look incredible. It also does some magic with pdf. Does it still do that? And the developer is an incredible human being. Tinderbox has also been my home for some time.
But, thinking hard about it hard, and learning about my own productivity, I learned that the lesser the number of tools, the better.
It is kind of sometimes exhausting to find where I wrote a certain note; and, even to decide which tool to use. Each tool also comes with its own features, that I have to learn about to use it effectively. That is why, after some contemplation, I decided to stick with the basics: DT, Scrivener, and Scapple combo
- Obsidian has been tempting as well. But, it is not as good as Devonthink. The fact that I have to rely on the markdown form itself is a drawback because I use text colors a lot. DT is just incredible. I am learning new things, and new avenues of organization, every day. I am doing almost everything with DT—organizing pdf and other resources, reading them, annotating, taking notes, and exporting annotations; drafting. I pull out Scapple when I face certain stuff that requires visual thinking. Once I have things in shape, I can open Scrivener. But, I often don’t need that. I just straight from DT to Latex.