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Posted by 22111
Oct 30, 2022 at 10:05 PM
If I was on Twitter - in fact, I never was -, I’d have twittered recently, “Maker of very bad spy cars (but which are brilliant at spying indeed!) denasifies Twitter - irony aside, dear Ely, couldn’t you buy German wikipedia, too?” - That being said, my old friend… well: ultimate idol! - Laura Black already knew he would be a stunner, and not only with the girls… 3 years before he was born, proof on file: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6PSCUOYvE
I’ve spent my Sunday afternoon, “trialing” (in fact, I own some give-away v. 3.11 of it, so I’m not sure if the term “trial” really applies, over a simple “try out”...) CintaNotes, the “active development” isn’t precisely to be termed “frenetic” to say the least, and I was quickly down to giving up, all the more so since the help file is just a very long loo roll, form-wise, and the visual aspect of the UI is quite basic, but then, I remembered our U.S. history prof., I can’t remember his pen name currently, sorry, something like “weep” or similar, had said he had used it for some time, for serious work, before, finally, encountering some scaling problems though, and that, well, motivated me to READ that help file: oh, my! Let me say it’s some really good stuff, even though for me, tagging-based software isn’t what I need, but that’s just me.
From the tag tree and the context menu, right-click triggered by my mouse over there, I had wrongly inferred that there was only Boolean AND…
and that gave me the idea to share with all those of the developers out there who, marketing-wise, are not really musk, or sometimes even outright bad:
Use your context menus - specific according to the currently active screen element that is - to INFORM the (prospective) user, too, i.e. also add some additional, non-clickable entries, giving hints… which, in case, will absolutely DELIGHT people who otherwise would probably never ever have found out what they’d miss, pronto presto clearing your tool from their SSD…
In CintaNotes’ case, those tag sidebar menu entries would have been:
click/+click/^click: AND
+click: OR*
!click: NOT
+!click: no children
see search bar
*= I know this is contradictory, but it’s like this in the help file, and I’m too tired to untangle
And then, additional context menu entries for the search would have been:
a b|c -d: a and (b or c) but not d
for tags: by dropdown
And yes, after having used such commands for some weeks, the tool could display a dialog, “Do you want these hints to be hidden from now on?”...
Also of interest in the help file: “Tag Hierarchy”, “Notebooks”, “Sections”...
I have recently integrated two of my UR databases, combined weight in one now 3 GB, and some 70,000 items, and I have created hundreds of “standard” “sub-folders”, to be formatted (so that it’s evident that they are “standard” folders, linked to some specific “gathering” folders-of-folders, for alternative “compound views”), and linked into other sections (in UR, you can search for title key words e.g., then select just the pertinent results in the result list, then link them to a common target in bulk, that’s very fast, easy and faultless)...
And wherever, in multiple locations, I work on those sub-trees, I always work on the original data, ditto for additions: proven by them always getting the original path info (called “lineage” in UR)...
This is a high quality work environment, and whilst I suppose it’s technically feasible to turn hierarchical tag trees upside down, alternatively - which CintaNotes doesn’t do yet -, I currently don’t imagine tag-based systems being as powerful as folder-based systems… IF the latter come with perfect transclusion, as UR indeed does.
At the end of the day, in a tag system, you’ll have to (multiply in case…) tag every single item (even if more often than not you’ll do it in bulk indeed), whilst the above-described transclusionary folder system allows for just creating “natural” siblings “as they come”, within their “natural”, “primary” environment… and then you’ll link the whole group (which may be some neatly ordered sub-tree even) to any other, secondary, tertiary… position within the whole tree (universe): wherever it may also be “in (alternative) context”...
In other words, folders-with-“clones” preserve the “group integrity” of the sub-parts of your data / work, whilst tagging tends to isolate the items, even discarding them from their most intimate, original contexts: In the folder system, “real siblings”, even “families” stay together, and in their natural (i.e. manual) order; in tag systems, they are torn apart, split up, then artificially grouped together again, together with, and even then separated by, “foreign” elements, by tag systems’ strictly technical ordering criteria: alphabetical, by creation date, and so on.
Thus, again, I think I can bring some valid arguments for (multi-dimensional: that’s the c.s.q.n. indeed) folders, over tag-based system, and as said before, additional tags, coded into the item / file titles, for additional “dimensions”, instead of again multiplying the (virtual) “tree positions”, may often be indicated, just as my additional m_Grusin (in The Fabulous Baker Boys) or ph_Nykvist (in some Bergman films) tags for exceptional film music or photographic direction.
But for people who “function” with general (i.e. exclusive) tagging, CintaNotes’s realization of that paradigm could obviously be a very serious contender…
This being said, the aforementioned scaling problem could then stop some from adopting this particular tool in its current state, but that’s perhaps also the reason its developer has been working for some quite some time now on his exceptional tool?
( For Boolean search in UR, see https://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?p=22803 - it’s powerful but realized in some really awkward way - no comparison with “Everything”‘s wonderful SDK solution that is…)
Whilst Adobe has now enlarged their subscription model to Pantone shades used in their rent tools even - I seriously think that Cook himself could learn from’em -: Did you know Hollywood Stars, in their posh trailers on the lot, repeat tongue twitters, pardon, twisters, in frenetic cadence, and in order to free their jaw? Yes, you certainly knew that, but here’s their most recent try you didn’t know already:
Must Trump trust Musk Must Trump trust Musk Must Trump trust Musk Must Trump trust Musk (etc. etc.)
(Oh, and I had left out the aGrep (no iWhat equivalent, so sorry!) specific that your search target is a combination out of folder (!) and suffix (!... well, it’s a real grep then!), not file, and then, with just your thumb, you both select folder and suffix, also in combination… which, in the case of three distinct DBs, just means, you create 3 sibling folders, put file b.txt into folder b, file c.txt into folder c, and file d.txt into folder d, then select folder b, c OR d, and will get results just from the file in question - it seems some Linux greps function similarly…)
Posted by satis
Oct 30, 2022 at 10:28 PM
> If I was on Twitter - in fact, I never was
Waiting for a 50,000 character limit?
Posted by tightbeam
Oct 31, 2022 at 06:13 PM
Even with that limit, he’d have to do a tweet thread.
satis wrote:
> If I was on Twitter - in fact, I never was
>
>Waiting for a 50,000 character limit?
Posted by 22111
Nov 4, 2022 at 11:06 AM
(Thank to both of you for making me laugh in these dire times!)
Filtering, etc in Text Edit Plus (19$ but free again (as often) today; by Vovsoft)
It has (menu) Tools - Find Lines:
with Text - Generate word List (which may be helpful indeed, but how to get back to the text then? By closing the program, then reopen the file? Well, that’s certainly ‘n’just my stupidity… see below…)
It has (menu) Text - Filter Lines:
with: Using File, Using Text*, Using Characters, Using Text Length.
*=here, Unwanted Text is default, so you set it to Wanted Text.
Then, Contains / Starts with / Ends with, and
Case sensitive Y/N
Obviously, this all seems to be quite/very helpful (depending upon if you own EmEditor or not that is)
My problems:
- The crazy developer or crazy reviewer phenomenon, since obviously, one of us must be nuts:
All the filtered lines in-between then were not just filtered out, but appeared as blank lines, so you easily imagine the look of a 1,000 lines text of which 990 lines are filtered: lots of scrolling to get from 1 remaining line to the next, and it’s beyond me how you would “work” on that filter result
- Similar to my problem above, I haven’t found a way to display all lines again, except for closing the program, then reopen the file.
Btw, I trialed Text Edit Plus a fortnite ago, before writing about filtering here, so perhaps that was v. 11.595 or something, and today’s v. 11.6 doesn’t behave that crazy anymore, or I just had a very bad day… (Needless to say that the help doesn’t help with this…)
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Apple:
- MiniPad: Seems for the high price you also get some psychedelic effect (mainly?) upon scrolling… which is allegedly not as beautifully impressive from one device to the other, and some people relate that the device in the AppleStore came without, whilst the one they then bought there showed the psychedelic effect very beutifull and intensely, so they were very happy after-buy; the customers, pardon, believers, who wanted a device similar to the one in the shop though, were allegedly told the psychedelic effect was included in the price, so they had better bought by mail-order, in order to have a look first’n'themselves, then decide, within the legal fortnite for decision within the EU, if they were happy or not…
- BasicPad: Here, the same remark re mailorder purchase vs. getting too much smoke (or was it incense?) in blessed JobsShop applies, since just some months ago, when the EU had decided mobile devices should finally come with standard cable connectors, somebody had commented Apple would certainly find a way to comply with that rule and bugger the believers all the same… an’you know what? He was right! :-)
Since a USB 3.1 / C (or whatever it is, I have lost my way with all those mixed-up USB denominations finally), with year-2000 speed (no, you read right: USB 2.0), is CORRECT, by the current so-called “USB specifications”: it’s just not what the believer will have thought it is when they read “3.1” (or whatever they call it), so the form factor alone will not always include the internal goodies you’ll expect, but some of you will know that effect already from, e.g., boobs.
(Not speaking of their ol’pen-with-adapa here: that ordeal had duly been communicated…)
So here again, Apple’s perfectly in their right, it’s just the believers who will have been wrong. Let’s hope when the latter die, they will not experience a very similar but somewhat final deception again…
Posted by 22111
Nov 4, 2022 at 12:51 PM
(Sorry for the typos above, I hadn’t had web connection (they do roadworks), so I hadn’t had this site’s spelling functionality, then forgot to use it afterwards.
It’s Thanks to both of you, or Thank you both, of course, and that should have been ol’en-with-adapta - had wanted to express childishness, from Apple’s side, not to make it unreadable - btw (and I know that’s “non-scientific”), I always cite with obvious typos corrected, but that’s just me again…)
Re my first post above, I had wanted to add/correct some hint but then forgot again, so:
Thinking again about my - general - idea to include “extremely abbreviated help” into the context menu for user interface elements (since users tend to right-click first, (and loooong before going thru the respective help file) whenever the get stuck, i.e. after having searched the menus an’all’that), it occurred to me there’s a much better variant to my original idea, both much less intrusive to the eye, and much more helpful:
Just put “context help” entries into the multiple (i.e. pane-etc-specific) context menus, linking not to the (in more and more cases, web-only anyway) help files, but to some help window the size of this site’s edit field, with some more detailed help than I had suggested above, and with two buttons: Close (this help window), and More (in the complete help file if hopefully there is any).
These “help” context menu entries could then remain present within, and at the bottom of those context menus, and would be helpful, even for experienced users, for functions they just use on a very infrequent base.
You know “Context help”, often available by F1 or ^F1, either linking into (i.e. not just “to”) the help file, or then, nowadays, opening some side bar (Microsoft, etc.), hopefully closing upon Escape, the problem with that way of doing things being that often, there is no way to identify the target = scope for this “context” help beforehand: By trying to do so, more often than not, you already trigger / launch the command you would have wanted to get some info about first, and most of the time, you would need to use the mouse first, then press F1 or whatever the shortcut may be.
Hence my suggestion to systematically use context menus for this “immediate help” functionality, since then, the user simply hovers with the mouse over some element, and then selects help (i.e. presses the “h” key, or uses their mouse again), after a right-click, getting immediate, specific help obviously being one of the rare exceptions to the general rule that keyboard is better than mouse use (not speaking of graphics of all sorts here where that general rule doesn’t apply to begin with, of course).