By WHAT do you (in parallels) structure? (woof-woof!)
Started by 22111
on 8/30/2022
22111
8/30/2022 2:22 pm
See https://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/9834 for for multiple-trees, in parallel to some one, probably more or less "natural", "organic" "taxonomic" one.
Then, let's speak about "writing", since obviously, many "authors" are continuing to do it "wrong", i.e. not in an "optimized" way.
First, inferior software like "Ulysses whatever" is to be discarded; I demonstrated this here just some weeks ago... but then, HOW "to do it"?
Sometimes, even German, the allegedly superior language of'em'all - well, I'm a master of German, then only can really compare with English and French, and have some remote notions of Italian, Spanish and Dutch - isn't "good enough", and it's term "Gerüst", for one, means, scaffold(ing), truss, gantry, rack trestle, etc., and then frame(work), structure, skeleton, etc., the obvious schism lying in the contradiction of "adding to, in order to work on" vs. "inherent structure, the WHOLE to be built on"... and that notion of inherence, of organicism... may unfortunately lead your astray...
Since there may be more, and even better ways...
Most "authors" now follow some sort of "structure from the books", and I'm ok with'em: they want to sell, after all...
But then, it's some technical structure indeed, and at the end of the day, it's the experience of the "hero(es)" - here again, wonderful German (only?) has got the right, the perfect term: their Erleben.
But what about the Erleben of - i.e. the one in the minds of - the "audience"?
See what I mean? "How-to-books"' authors seems to equate the hero(es)' Erleben with the audience's one, and that, obviously, cannot stand, and it's the psychological development in the head of the standard audience member which has to build the structure of your story, not some technical poles and beacons, which are nothing but means to get to the (more or less rollercoaster, and way more) elements of the former: of the Erleben of "the audience"... whilst this Erleben also includes the, very personal in case, reconcilement with the respective audience member's previous Erleben, previous, individual experience-of-life-for-them.
I am not speaking of "curves" here, of "here the viewer will be aghast, there they will be frightened", etc., but I am speaking about ROUNDING some others' experience, in order to integrate it into, almost MAKING it your own.
Now, how to do that, technically? Well, there is the notion of "film treatment" (see wikipedia), not to be confounded with (more-or-less 1-page) "synopsis" (also on wikipedia), and there are many different ways to write down such a "treatment"...
But obviously, you should write much more about the - detailed - What-is-it-about than about the How-do-we-illustrate*-it, and that means that the sequences, the scenes should NOT become the structure of your "planning" anymore, but your What-are-we-going-to express...
And I say, "we", on purpose here, since you'll have to find like-minded persons, i.e. producers, i.e. persons with the money or (rather, in reality, that is:) in position(s) to get the money to "produce", i.e. to realize that your "story" will be heard...
And it won't be heard but if you trigger former experiences of the "standard" audience member, AND ENHANCES'EM.
* = my use of the term "illustration" might have irritated? And you're right, since here, suddenly, the notion of "organic" will come into play again, since it's not then about "illustrating" your "ideas" of such, but what you show, the "scenes", will have to express what you're going to convey, organically.
With all due respect, architects are more-or-less engineers, their constructions are built upon their walls, their pillars in case: no other construction principle has ever seen the light of the day...
With so-called "software architects", it's become a little bit more variable, but even here, most construction principles are preset...
And then Edson proclaims that "writing" is the most elaborate construction engineering task this world has on offer - my wording, and, frankly, that's what I had discovered years ago, since you'll have to really TOUCH the so-called "unconscious" of your so-called "audience", while, on the other hand, "develop" their said "unconscious" - if you're honest, i.e. a real writer.
(This being said, don't take me wrong: I, for once, advocate the highest standards there are, for "writing"... whilst on the other hand, in comedy, it's just all about your audience shitting in their pants by uncontrollable laughing, and the irony here being that both standards are equally demanding...)
Thus, technically, what should you do? Superpose the REAL structure upon everything-else? And even that's not true - see? I'm perfectly honest here: -: Have your "standard" structure, i.e. 4-acts or whatever, but then FILL it, in the first instance, with your - see above! - "treatment" - spread all over the place...
and then, further on, work on that treatment, i.e. not on your "scenes", "chapters", whatever you call your technical units: work on your fanned-out treatment, ALL THE TIME, and then only work on "scenes" and the like, and be ready to discard those, and even whole "sequences" or whatever you'll call'em, whenever they don't comply anymore with that ruling, always-optimized "treatment"...
...spread all over your "outline", since... see, you're neither in the house-, nor in the high-rise building business, but you're doing something "original", i.e. something unique:
You're ideally enhancing the Erleben of people - and, btw, Er-Leben means something in the lines of "living, but so fully living that you'll become somebody enhanced" (and yes, the subconcious of the German language is unparalleled even "worldwide", as far as my admittedly rather tiny experience guides me) -...
by doing something unparalleled, something truly "original", just guided - not by foundations, walls and pillars, but - by your own "imagination"... and which always has to be flow along the lines of what people already reckon to "know"... but then, not remaining within those confines.
Technically, you'll need some outlining tool which provides you with (at least some) "user-sided tree formats" (which obviously is not the case with "Ulysses App" and the like, tools written by coders for whomever), or which, ideally, even then allow you to (re)view one such format not spread-over, but in consolidated form (and with blank-lines, between the "entries").
Anyway, while you'll stick with your sequences-scenes (ditto for novels and whatever) schema, you'll have quite rare chances to produce something you'll be remembered for, but here and there by accident.
An'yes, I could have titled this thread, "Organizing the Intangibles" - organizing those intangibles though and in a way they'll form something people will cherish, is technically possible, with some of today's outlining tools, IF you work on your what-they-call-treatment, and in the right way: anything else will then be just "illustration"... NOT: within your "illustrations", you'll then further have to to speed up their heartbeat... but IF you reach their heart, or don't, will be determined, by four fifths, by your "treatment" or whatever you call your REAL outline.
Then, let's speak about "writing", since obviously, many "authors" are continuing to do it "wrong", i.e. not in an "optimized" way.
First, inferior software like "Ulysses whatever" is to be discarded; I demonstrated this here just some weeks ago... but then, HOW "to do it"?
Sometimes, even German, the allegedly superior language of'em'all - well, I'm a master of German, then only can really compare with English and French, and have some remote notions of Italian, Spanish and Dutch - isn't "good enough", and it's term "Gerüst", for one, means, scaffold(ing), truss, gantry, rack trestle, etc., and then frame(work), structure, skeleton, etc., the obvious schism lying in the contradiction of "adding to, in order to work on" vs. "inherent structure, the WHOLE to be built on"... and that notion of inherence, of organicism... may unfortunately lead your astray...
Since there may be more, and even better ways...
Most "authors" now follow some sort of "structure from the books", and I'm ok with'em: they want to sell, after all...
But then, it's some technical structure indeed, and at the end of the day, it's the experience of the "hero(es)" - here again, wonderful German (only?) has got the right, the perfect term: their Erleben.
But what about the Erleben of - i.e. the one in the minds of - the "audience"?
See what I mean? "How-to-books"' authors seems to equate the hero(es)' Erleben with the audience's one, and that, obviously, cannot stand, and it's the psychological development in the head of the standard audience member which has to build the structure of your story, not some technical poles and beacons, which are nothing but means to get to the (more or less rollercoaster, and way more) elements of the former: of the Erleben of "the audience"... whilst this Erleben also includes the, very personal in case, reconcilement with the respective audience member's previous Erleben, previous, individual experience-of-life-for-them.
I am not speaking of "curves" here, of "here the viewer will be aghast, there they will be frightened", etc., but I am speaking about ROUNDING some others' experience, in order to integrate it into, almost MAKING it your own.
Now, how to do that, technically? Well, there is the notion of "film treatment" (see wikipedia), not to be confounded with (more-or-less 1-page) "synopsis" (also on wikipedia), and there are many different ways to write down such a "treatment"...
But obviously, you should write much more about the - detailed - What-is-it-about than about the How-do-we-illustrate*-it, and that means that the sequences, the scenes should NOT become the structure of your "planning" anymore, but your What-are-we-going-to express...
And I say, "we", on purpose here, since you'll have to find like-minded persons, i.e. producers, i.e. persons with the money or (rather, in reality, that is:) in position(s) to get the money to "produce", i.e. to realize that your "story" will be heard...
And it won't be heard but if you trigger former experiences of the "standard" audience member, AND ENHANCES'EM.
* = my use of the term "illustration" might have irritated? And you're right, since here, suddenly, the notion of "organic" will come into play again, since it's not then about "illustrating" your "ideas" of such, but what you show, the "scenes", will have to express what you're going to convey, organically.
With all due respect, architects are more-or-less engineers, their constructions are built upon their walls, their pillars in case: no other construction principle has ever seen the light of the day...
With so-called "software architects", it's become a little bit more variable, but even here, most construction principles are preset...
And then Edson proclaims that "writing" is the most elaborate construction engineering task this world has on offer - my wording, and, frankly, that's what I had discovered years ago, since you'll have to really TOUCH the so-called "unconscious" of your so-called "audience", while, on the other hand, "develop" their said "unconscious" - if you're honest, i.e. a real writer.
(This being said, don't take me wrong: I, for once, advocate the highest standards there are, for "writing"... whilst on the other hand, in comedy, it's just all about your audience shitting in their pants by uncontrollable laughing, and the irony here being that both standards are equally demanding...)
Thus, technically, what should you do? Superpose the REAL structure upon everything-else? And even that's not true - see? I'm perfectly honest here: -: Have your "standard" structure, i.e. 4-acts or whatever, but then FILL it, in the first instance, with your - see above! - "treatment" - spread all over the place...
and then, further on, work on that treatment, i.e. not on your "scenes", "chapters", whatever you call your technical units: work on your fanned-out treatment, ALL THE TIME, and then only work on "scenes" and the like, and be ready to discard those, and even whole "sequences" or whatever you'll call'em, whenever they don't comply anymore with that ruling, always-optimized "treatment"...
...spread all over your "outline", since... see, you're neither in the house-, nor in the high-rise building business, but you're doing something "original", i.e. something unique:
You're ideally enhancing the Erleben of people - and, btw, Er-Leben means something in the lines of "living, but so fully living that you'll become somebody enhanced" (and yes, the subconcious of the German language is unparalleled even "worldwide", as far as my admittedly rather tiny experience guides me) -...
by doing something unparalleled, something truly "original", just guided - not by foundations, walls and pillars, but - by your own "imagination"... and which always has to be flow along the lines of what people already reckon to "know"... but then, not remaining within those confines.
Technically, you'll need some outlining tool which provides you with (at least some) "user-sided tree formats" (which obviously is not the case with "Ulysses App" and the like, tools written by coders for whomever), or which, ideally, even then allow you to (re)view one such format not spread-over, but in consolidated form (and with blank-lines, between the "entries").
Anyway, while you'll stick with your sequences-scenes (ditto for novels and whatever) schema, you'll have quite rare chances to produce something you'll be remembered for, but here and there by accident.
An'yes, I could have titled this thread, "Organizing the Intangibles" - organizing those intangibles though and in a way they'll form something people will cherish, is technically possible, with some of today's outlining tools, IF you work on your what-they-call-treatment, and in the right way: anything else will then be just "illustration"... NOT: within your "illustrations", you'll then further have to to speed up their heartbeat... but IF you reach their heart, or don't, will be determined, by four fifths, by your "treatment" or whatever you call your REAL outline.
22111
9/2/2022 1:17 pm
Sorry, above, I was mislead by the French, "multiple" is without an end-s in English, of course, and I don't know either why I put in that parenthesis. Also, and foremost, I wasn't specific enough, sorry again.
Now, "it's the language, stupid!", Marilyn could have said, and whilst most synonyms ain't interchangeable, most languages ain't, either.
What I tried to express above, was that your real outline should be the "trame", which is a French expression which here perfectly (sic!) "gets it" ("trifft es" in German, "es treffen": try google for "es treffen", with the double-quotes, and you'll get some hint of what I'm speaking about here...: there, again, is no equivalent within the "major" lingos, again...).
On "langenscheidt.com" - which is one of the very best web dicos you can get -, "trame" is translated, into German, by "Schuss" (i.e. in weaving), "Raster" (ditto), "Hintergrund" (i.e. "background"), "Grundlage" (which you might translate by "the base of it all"), but then, what could you do with those German or French terms? Just translate it for you, by: "Ariadne's thread".
Some languages help (sic!) with feeling (sic!), and some others rather help with condensing, with objectifying, and that's indeed German vs. English. Now, just-feeling obviously isn't good, the Germans have proven that assertion some Century ago, but just the matter-of-fact of all things isn't that helpful either, at the end of the day it seems.
Then, you'll have, just for an example, 100, max. 120 pages of a screenplay (or of any other, "modern" "book", "publication", to ABSTRACT the sum of what you feel, AND of what you will have thoroughly analyzed (if everything went well up to then, that is), and that's sort of SANITATION: perfect, since perfectly needed, and put into the right shape to work; just compare "Tightrope" (Eastwood's 1984 effort) or "Frantic" (Polanski's 1988 laisser-aller) with what the audience would have justifiably expected from both tries.
Thus, too much "feeling" obviously isn't good at all, but most of Hollywood's major productions then show a blatant lack of it, and so the key word in the above post, sorry again, should have been, "SUBTEXT".
Now, yes, I've got able to "word" in English, by some practice - descriptions, dialogue... -, but then, for finding, and developing (sic!) the "subtext", I revert to my mother language, and then, when I try to "transpose", I invariably found that the "target language" just doesn't offer the necessary verbal instruments: at the end of the day, it's the CONCEPTS which ain't there... and which are there within that language which had been a "target" language for philosophers all over the world, for Centuries, pre-33 that is, and indeed...
That being said: No, I'm not speaking of "writing" here, i.e. of what "they" nowadays call "creative writing" - oh my God! -, but of ALL, of EVERY writing, of all putting down of words, in and re any subject:
Since, what's that (French) "trame" indeed? It's the ESSENCE, the "why", the COMPLETENESS of FACTS, the not-leaving-pertinent(sic!)-so-called-"details"-out, it's about the EXPLANATION of "what's going on".
It's about not FRAMING your reader / viewer / "user" anymore, but of honestly presenting them all of what's your capable of TELLING, on your subject, and that's then the invitation to your reader / viewer / (info) "user", to START-FROM-THERE... instead of "framing" them, i.e. of trying to lead'em astray, be it by ellipsing (i.e. deliberately hiding pertinent facts, motives, elements of any kind), be it by outright lying (and the "Covid" (mostly government- and/or corporate-paid) "science" just gave us the most blatant example of this obscene, collective whoring, if ever such a proof had still been required... for some naïves...):
And THEN only, you condense what you've got to - honestly - say, into, in the case of a screenplay e.g., some 1-page-per-minute; in other words, you do not leave out the pertinent elements, but just those your "audience" will easily be able to infer by themselves, ONCE you will have presented the pertinent ones, be that in, or between your lines...
And there, we just speak of "elegance" of style, of savoir-faire of the "author" of what the "public" will then read... but it'll have come to an end, with all-embracing manipulation of what then your "public" could infer from what you will have told them:
Since in those days, "journalists", for example, were just like "the ideal teacher": they informed you, AND incited you to then develop your own thoughts, upon REAL facts: to the very better of your own, and to the very better of humanity overall: it was the idea, then, of "humanism" - remember?!
For most of you: obviously not...: How else could you fathom today's ubiquitous framing, instead of instructing, meliorating your, and "their", "audience", as their, and YOURS, new normality?
Yesterday, I read the "teaser" to this - paid - obscenity: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/technik-motor/digital/ulysses-software-soll-autoren-zum-schreiben-von-bestsellern-verhelfen-18275015.html : "Ulysses-Software : So entsteht ein Bestseller" - "Ulysses App - The Way Bestselling Books are Made", by some "Michael Spehr"... and ALL of their, "political", "news" handling is of the same, abysmal, quality:
Those people FRAME you, today, instead of giving you ALL the elements of then processing your own judgment.
The very best Chancellor Germany ever had (i.e. Schmidt), once said that journalists are fellows who know neither any "homebase" nor any other notion of value to which they could ever turn, for some spiritual guidance ("heimatlose Gesellen", he said)...
Don't ape such people: Build any outline you build, by the "subtext": by what seems true to you: errors being acceptable, but framings, lies will never be.
Since even "facts" are just some deliberate "selections"... while the ESSENCE of those "facts" is what you're summoned to convey, as any writer, with those double quotes, designating the "creative" ones, or then the "factual" ones, which nowadays and by their overwhelming majority try to be good servants to the miserable-in-power, in order to participate in their good-life.
Most of Third Reich's whores are forgotten now, and even abandoned, abhorred by their respective families; most of today's writers of all kinds will meet the same fate, and that's why some "contributors" of this forum, who feel that, without being yet able to discern it, would like me to be silenced.
And for the "executive resume": Don't outline by the currently-obvious-to-you, all the less by some, be it yours, be it some third-party's who you pays or who who eat their ass in hope of once being rewarded: Try to analyze better, and then try to convey the essence of your honest try.
And people will love you for it. And some will even take example.
It's not about the feeling-of-your-audience, as I erroneously advanced above: it's about "directing" their NATURAL feelings, by always-honest-but-not-naïve anymore (i.e. "beyond natural German") submission - Strategia del ragno (Bertolucci 1970), anyone?
Or then, make us laugh our pants off, but don't overcrowd the ranks of those pathetics who think we're all idiots: you will not even survive in the memory of your offspring, except by'em being embarrassed about you.
At the end of the day, the secret lays in honesty-plus-something-new, and whenever your contribution lacks the former element, you're just another one of "their" whores, and when the latter element is missing or fails, you're irrelevant.
No wonder then that some "contributors" (?) around here literally hate me, then...
And yes, writing English dialogues, after having done the necessary musings in German, seems perfect - what's the secondary language in the U.S.: Spanish? Well... they might call it the "normative power of the factual", then? Yeah...
Don't lose your time by outlining the obvious, the obvious only rarely being the real info. And that's why, among many other things and projects, most screenplays fail.
Outline by the essence, dear.
Now, "it's the language, stupid!", Marilyn could have said, and whilst most synonyms ain't interchangeable, most languages ain't, either.
What I tried to express above, was that your real outline should be the "trame", which is a French expression which here perfectly (sic!) "gets it" ("trifft es" in German, "es treffen": try google for "es treffen", with the double-quotes, and you'll get some hint of what I'm speaking about here...: there, again, is no equivalent within the "major" lingos, again...).
On "langenscheidt.com" - which is one of the very best web dicos you can get -, "trame" is translated, into German, by "Schuss" (i.e. in weaving), "Raster" (ditto), "Hintergrund" (i.e. "background"), "Grundlage" (which you might translate by "the base of it all"), but then, what could you do with those German or French terms? Just translate it for you, by: "Ariadne's thread".
Some languages help (sic!) with feeling (sic!), and some others rather help with condensing, with objectifying, and that's indeed German vs. English. Now, just-feeling obviously isn't good, the Germans have proven that assertion some Century ago, but just the matter-of-fact of all things isn't that helpful either, at the end of the day it seems.
Then, you'll have, just for an example, 100, max. 120 pages of a screenplay (or of any other, "modern" "book", "publication", to ABSTRACT the sum of what you feel, AND of what you will have thoroughly analyzed (if everything went well up to then, that is), and that's sort of SANITATION: perfect, since perfectly needed, and put into the right shape to work; just compare "Tightrope" (Eastwood's 1984 effort) or "Frantic" (Polanski's 1988 laisser-aller) with what the audience would have justifiably expected from both tries.
Thus, too much "feeling" obviously isn't good at all, but most of Hollywood's major productions then show a blatant lack of it, and so the key word in the above post, sorry again, should have been, "SUBTEXT".
Now, yes, I've got able to "word" in English, by some practice - descriptions, dialogue... -, but then, for finding, and developing (sic!) the "subtext", I revert to my mother language, and then, when I try to "transpose", I invariably found that the "target language" just doesn't offer the necessary verbal instruments: at the end of the day, it's the CONCEPTS which ain't there... and which are there within that language which had been a "target" language for philosophers all over the world, for Centuries, pre-33 that is, and indeed...
That being said: No, I'm not speaking of "writing" here, i.e. of what "they" nowadays call "creative writing" - oh my God! -, but of ALL, of EVERY writing, of all putting down of words, in and re any subject:
Since, what's that (French) "trame" indeed? It's the ESSENCE, the "why", the COMPLETENESS of FACTS, the not-leaving-pertinent(sic!)-so-called-"details"-out, it's about the EXPLANATION of "what's going on".
It's about not FRAMING your reader / viewer / "user" anymore, but of honestly presenting them all of what's your capable of TELLING, on your subject, and that's then the invitation to your reader / viewer / (info) "user", to START-FROM-THERE... instead of "framing" them, i.e. of trying to lead'em astray, be it by ellipsing (i.e. deliberately hiding pertinent facts, motives, elements of any kind), be it by outright lying (and the "Covid" (mostly government- and/or corporate-paid) "science" just gave us the most blatant example of this obscene, collective whoring, if ever such a proof had still been required... for some naïves...):
And THEN only, you condense what you've got to - honestly - say, into, in the case of a screenplay e.g., some 1-page-per-minute; in other words, you do not leave out the pertinent elements, but just those your "audience" will easily be able to infer by themselves, ONCE you will have presented the pertinent ones, be that in, or between your lines...
And there, we just speak of "elegance" of style, of savoir-faire of the "author" of what the "public" will then read... but it'll have come to an end, with all-embracing manipulation of what then your "public" could infer from what you will have told them:
Since in those days, "journalists", for example, were just like "the ideal teacher": they informed you, AND incited you to then develop your own thoughts, upon REAL facts: to the very better of your own, and to the very better of humanity overall: it was the idea, then, of "humanism" - remember?!
For most of you: obviously not...: How else could you fathom today's ubiquitous framing, instead of instructing, meliorating your, and "their", "audience", as their, and YOURS, new normality?
Yesterday, I read the "teaser" to this - paid - obscenity: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/technik-motor/digital/ulysses-software-soll-autoren-zum-schreiben-von-bestsellern-verhelfen-18275015.html : "Ulysses-Software : So entsteht ein Bestseller" - "Ulysses App - The Way Bestselling Books are Made", by some "Michael Spehr"... and ALL of their, "political", "news" handling is of the same, abysmal, quality:
Those people FRAME you, today, instead of giving you ALL the elements of then processing your own judgment.
The very best Chancellor Germany ever had (i.e. Schmidt), once said that journalists are fellows who know neither any "homebase" nor any other notion of value to which they could ever turn, for some spiritual guidance ("heimatlose Gesellen", he said)...
Don't ape such people: Build any outline you build, by the "subtext": by what seems true to you: errors being acceptable, but framings, lies will never be.
Since even "facts" are just some deliberate "selections"... while the ESSENCE of those "facts" is what you're summoned to convey, as any writer, with those double quotes, designating the "creative" ones, or then the "factual" ones, which nowadays and by their overwhelming majority try to be good servants to the miserable-in-power, in order to participate in their good-life.
Most of Third Reich's whores are forgotten now, and even abandoned, abhorred by their respective families; most of today's writers of all kinds will meet the same fate, and that's why some "contributors" of this forum, who feel that, without being yet able to discern it, would like me to be silenced.
And for the "executive resume": Don't outline by the currently-obvious-to-you, all the less by some, be it yours, be it some third-party's who you pays or who who eat their ass in hope of once being rewarded: Try to analyze better, and then try to convey the essence of your honest try.
And people will love you for it. And some will even take example.
It's not about the feeling-of-your-audience, as I erroneously advanced above: it's about "directing" their NATURAL feelings, by always-honest-but-not-naïve anymore (i.e. "beyond natural German") submission - Strategia del ragno (Bertolucci 1970), anyone?
Or then, make us laugh our pants off, but don't overcrowd the ranks of those pathetics who think we're all idiots: you will not even survive in the memory of your offspring, except by'em being embarrassed about you.
At the end of the day, the secret lays in honesty-plus-something-new, and whenever your contribution lacks the former element, you're just another one of "their" whores, and when the latter element is missing or fails, you're irrelevant.
No wonder then that some "contributors" (?) around here literally hate me, then...
And yes, writing English dialogues, after having done the necessary musings in German, seems perfect - what's the secondary language in the U.S.: Spanish? Well... they might call it the "normative power of the factual", then? Yeah...
Don't lose your time by outlining the obvious, the obvious only rarely being the real info. And that's why, among many other things and projects, most screenplays fail.
Outline by the essence, dear.
22111
9/2/2022 1:31 pm
Oh, very sorry, I hadn't even understood my own, smart (?) title wording: "(in parallels)" had wanted to express that on top (sic!) of your straight-technical "outline", you should also, and first, to proceed by your "essence" outline, your technical "scenes, etc." outline becoming secondary (!) to the former; "in parallels" thus has nothing to do with my recent thread re "multiple views" (brilliant askSam and then nothing...): any other outlining concept then has just to FOLLOW, to ALIGN itself to, your primary and ESSENCE outline.
Sorry for the confusion! ;-) (Even I am, sometimes, not specific enough, and then, days later, ask myself, "what?!" - well, that's one of the imponderabilia of real thinking if I may say so, haha! And yes, put it ALL down "on paper" i.e. into keyboard nowadays: even the far-flung elements of your thinking: unless you're young, and your memory is still your friend that is! ;-)
Sorry again!
Sorry for the confusion! ;-) (Even I am, sometimes, not specific enough, and then, days later, ask myself, "what?!" - well, that's one of the imponderabilia of real thinking if I may say so, haha! And yes, put it ALL down "on paper" i.e. into keyboard nowadays: even the far-flung elements of your thinking: unless you're young, and your memory is still your friend that is! ;-)
Sorry again!
22111
9/3/2022 11:49 am
About LEO.org (and some other things)
For my translation needs, I use a second "instance" of my main web browser, Firefox, so that I'm able, with the help of some macros, to look up the "right" word almost immediately. (I think I have commented on that almost-scam (sic! speaking of their web dictionary access here, not about their "Plus" or whatever they call it access to their own material) "WordWeb" here, some time ago?)
My very first website*, in this respect and up to now, has been leo.org (".org": sic!: implied: "we are a public service!"- hahaha!), since at the end of the day, it was even just that little bit better than dict.cc - which in itself if tremendously good indeed; thus, dict.cc come "second-place" for me, i.e. firefox ^2, with leo.org being ^1 (and so on, with diminishing returns...).
Now, leo."org" is rent-only, or then "with ads", but you'll get that "allow with ads" interference with EVERY SINGLE look-up now, if you use an ad-blocker at least, as I do... well: "of course!"...
Whilst dict.cc is one man in Vienna (Austria) - seriously: I don't know HOW he does it, but WHAT he's been doing for many years, is just wonderful! -, leo.org is three men and their corporation in Munich (Germany), and as implied above, their work up-to-now has been really, really good, too, but now they've become more than just a little bit greedy, it seems... (and as proven by direct comparison with dict.cc)...
When I finally decided myself to "adopt" an Android "smartphone" (it's called "smart" because those really smart people behind the business model get, and store, almost all aspects of your private life), I decided to buy - but NOT rent! - "a" good dictionary, and a csv viewer; as detailed "above", i.e. in some other thread, the latter purchase (well, 3€...) was a total failure... - and then I discovered that free "app" which serves me well, and in the meantime, I have even discovered its phrase search, albeit a regular "AND" search seems impossible with it indeed...
Thus, and needing German, French, English in all permutations, I did my necessary, "Android" "apps", research, and then quickly discovered that leo.org was / is rent there - obviously, they had introduced their rent scheme in Android (and allegedly iWhatever) before their now-rent "desktop" scheme, too, and furthermore, rent by any permutation, one-by-one, which would have been not 3 but 5 rentals in my case... so, "go to hell!".
Instead, I paid 10€, one-time-payment, for dict.cc, for my 5 permutations, and whenever I need some other language duo, e.g. including some Dutch, I can invoke it for the very same price, and the "superiority" of leo.org over dict.cc being just imperceptible, most of the time...
Btw, when you search such translations for google, you invariably get linguee.com which is really bad, and bab.la which only could be considered "acceptable" if they weren't both dict.cc or leo.org, but which, facts being as they are, is without any interest, too, as some more "hits" among google's "top ten"... but if you "search" by google, pons.com is often in the very first place, whilst dict.cc is sixth or such, and that's outrageous indeed: does google give a hang, or is it paid then?
Oh, and for journalists that don't inform, but frame you, there is a just wonderful German expression, "Mietmaul" (or "Mietmäuler" in their plural, and which's to be translated by "rent mug")...
I'm very happy with my "Android apps" choice, which cost me 13€, incl. the 3€ thrown away for that first, worthless csv viewer, and I'd be happy to also pay 10€ for my second, current one...
Well, you can use such "apps" even without "SIM" cards active... hahaha - so don't pretend I "finally gave in"... ;-)
As said, and for desktop / web use, langenscheidt.com is really first class, too, whilst e.g. pons.com (which owns Langenscheidt now but has always been inferior to its prey and by far) is not worth mentioning...
* = I also own 20- or 25-years old licenses of Langenscheidt-desktop E-D, F-D and S-D, unfortunately not also their equally brilliant I-D version, but I have to live with that, and, cherio!, those 3 software packages always run on Win10! And there's also some dictionaries and thesauri which I bought in the past, whilst for example "Le Grand Robert" is now rented out at somewhat literally demential prices! - go a legitimate license from some old package though, but French isn't relevant anymore indeed...
Now for vocabulary questions
Sometimes, the translation might even be spot-on... but then, it's the translation that will you the "necessary", highly welcome ride to further insight, and so, when thinking (even more, haha...) about outlining, the term of "trame" popped up for me, whilst what I know might also "correct" terms, hadn't "done it" for me and so far: the respective "representation in your mind" of those terms obviously is different, and that's the key.
Remember what I said some weeks ago here, "ONE MORE ANGLE"... and it's just the willingness, too, and to begin with, which is the core element here, and then your "brainstorming" will be a matter of multiple techniques, and obviously, musing in some other languages than just your very first one might help.
Since the "essence" is just the plenty of the real core elements, and if you don't strive for that, nobody can help your thinking, but those-in-power obviously can you help financially as long as you blow their horn, and if you believe for example the legislators when they label even some very superficial groping "carnal KNOWLEDGE" - just is just one but indicative example of course -, your "author's journey" will miserably end already in the front yard of what you might call your "rationale home" - well, and for plebs: your "horizon"...
And if you wanna know WHY people think, write, act so short-sighted: they're just obscenely and even mentally, conceptually lazy - well, they erroneously assume that thinking is hard work, while only finding justifications for lies is -, or as Thomas Sowell worded it,
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good."
And, fun fact: this citation is 100 per cent woke!
For my translation needs, I use a second "instance" of my main web browser, Firefox, so that I'm able, with the help of some macros, to look up the "right" word almost immediately. (I think I have commented on that almost-scam (sic! speaking of their web dictionary access here, not about their "Plus" or whatever they call it access to their own material) "WordWeb" here, some time ago?)
My very first website*, in this respect and up to now, has been leo.org (".org": sic!: implied: "we are a public service!"- hahaha!), since at the end of the day, it was even just that little bit better than dict.cc - which in itself if tremendously good indeed; thus, dict.cc come "second-place" for me, i.e. firefox ^2, with leo.org being ^1 (and so on, with diminishing returns...).
Now, leo."org" is rent-only, or then "with ads", but you'll get that "allow with ads" interference with EVERY SINGLE look-up now, if you use an ad-blocker at least, as I do... well: "of course!"...
Whilst dict.cc is one man in Vienna (Austria) - seriously: I don't know HOW he does it, but WHAT he's been doing for many years, is just wonderful! -, leo.org is three men and their corporation in Munich (Germany), and as implied above, their work up-to-now has been really, really good, too, but now they've become more than just a little bit greedy, it seems... (and as proven by direct comparison with dict.cc)...
When I finally decided myself to "adopt" an Android "smartphone" (it's called "smart" because those really smart people behind the business model get, and store, almost all aspects of your private life), I decided to buy - but NOT rent! - "a" good dictionary, and a csv viewer; as detailed "above", i.e. in some other thread, the latter purchase (well, 3€...) was a total failure... - and then I discovered that free "app" which serves me well, and in the meantime, I have even discovered its phrase search, albeit a regular "AND" search seems impossible with it indeed...
Thus, and needing German, French, English in all permutations, I did my necessary, "Android" "apps", research, and then quickly discovered that leo.org was / is rent there - obviously, they had introduced their rent scheme in Android (and allegedly iWhatever) before their now-rent "desktop" scheme, too, and furthermore, rent by any permutation, one-by-one, which would have been not 3 but 5 rentals in my case... so, "go to hell!".
Instead, I paid 10€, one-time-payment, for dict.cc, for my 5 permutations, and whenever I need some other language duo, e.g. including some Dutch, I can invoke it for the very same price, and the "superiority" of leo.org over dict.cc being just imperceptible, most of the time...
Btw, when you search such translations for google, you invariably get linguee.com which is really bad, and bab.la which only could be considered "acceptable" if they weren't both dict.cc or leo.org, but which, facts being as they are, is without any interest, too, as some more "hits" among google's "top ten"... but if you "search" by google, pons.com is often in the very first place, whilst dict.cc is sixth or such, and that's outrageous indeed: does google give a hang, or is it paid then?
Oh, and for journalists that don't inform, but frame you, there is a just wonderful German expression, "Mietmaul" (or "Mietmäuler" in their plural, and which's to be translated by "rent mug")...
I'm very happy with my "Android apps" choice, which cost me 13€, incl. the 3€ thrown away for that first, worthless csv viewer, and I'd be happy to also pay 10€ for my second, current one...
Well, you can use such "apps" even without "SIM" cards active... hahaha - so don't pretend I "finally gave in"... ;-)
As said, and for desktop / web use, langenscheidt.com is really first class, too, whilst e.g. pons.com (which owns Langenscheidt now but has always been inferior to its prey and by far) is not worth mentioning...
* = I also own 20- or 25-years old licenses of Langenscheidt-desktop E-D, F-D and S-D, unfortunately not also their equally brilliant I-D version, but I have to live with that, and, cherio!, those 3 software packages always run on Win10! And there's also some dictionaries and thesauri which I bought in the past, whilst for example "Le Grand Robert" is now rented out at somewhat literally demential prices! - go a legitimate license from some old package though, but French isn't relevant anymore indeed...
Now for vocabulary questions
Sometimes, the translation might even be spot-on... but then, it's the translation that will you the "necessary", highly welcome ride to further insight, and so, when thinking (even more, haha...) about outlining, the term of "trame" popped up for me, whilst what I know might also "correct" terms, hadn't "done it" for me and so far: the respective "representation in your mind" of those terms obviously is different, and that's the key.
Remember what I said some weeks ago here, "ONE MORE ANGLE"... and it's just the willingness, too, and to begin with, which is the core element here, and then your "brainstorming" will be a matter of multiple techniques, and obviously, musing in some other languages than just your very first one might help.
Since the "essence" is just the plenty of the real core elements, and if you don't strive for that, nobody can help your thinking, but those-in-power obviously can you help financially as long as you blow their horn, and if you believe for example the legislators when they label even some very superficial groping "carnal KNOWLEDGE" - just is just one but indicative example of course -, your "author's journey" will miserably end already in the front yard of what you might call your "rationale home" - well, and for plebs: your "horizon"...
And if you wanna know WHY people think, write, act so short-sighted: they're just obscenely and even mentally, conceptually lazy - well, they erroneously assume that thinking is hard work, while only finding justifications for lies is -, or as Thomas Sowell worded it,
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good."
And, fun fact: this citation is 100 per cent woke!
22111
9/3/2022 1:01 pm
Immediate follow-up to my post some minutes ago:
Re WordWeb:
In fact, I commented on bits:
"After buying WordWeb Pro, I had to realize that I had lost my money (20$ (EDIT: 19$) plus VAT), since all the dictionary web sites I had been interested in, were rendered in a way that didn't make their info readily available to me, and with an ad defender, it outright got impossible; I had to realize that obviously, the developer had selected the freely-available sites (free/trial, non-"Pro") in a way that those problems didn't appear before making my purchase decision.
(I obviously speak of the "standard", English, two-language and one-language dictionary, and thesaurus sites you will want to use this alternative browser interface with, not of "exotic" sites with possible non-standard, additional problems.)
Thus, your task of quick-n-easy, concurrent access to several standard web dictionaries for the same search term will unfortunately not be met by WordWeb Pro, you will have to write some little macros instead, so my hint for you here, don't try to interact with the searchbars of those sites but analyze their respective search URLs after having fired up their regular search, then write your macro(s) accordingly - and you should get 1-key navigation between your browser tabs, and a little macro getting you to some "homepage" of your own as your search "home base" (then "close other tabs", in order to fire off the whole set again with your next search term, but without closing your browser in-between); as an intermediate solution, there are free browser add-ins (of very different quality though) which direct your input into the respective site searchbar, without fiddling with the mouse in case.
As for non-web dictionaries, etc., there always Oxford Shorter Dictionary, Chambers Thesaurus (30/10$ on MS), as well as the multiple UltraLingua dictionaries (12$ each, e.g. Eng-Spanish/French and vice versa and many more), all of them are a steal in their own way (the UltraLingua dictionaries are WAY beyond of what you'd expect for 12 bucks), and I can speak about them, as well as of WordWeb Pro since I all own them (for UL, the language combis only I'm in need of, of course), with buyer's remorse just for the latter.
The "ideal" solution would be to get out just the core info from the web sites, but whilst you could do that individually, no developer may sell such a tool, for obvious legal reasons; presenting an inferior, alternative browser being not a real alternative... but kudos to the developer to have hidden that core info from me, by very neatly selecting the sites available in his tool before buying: smart guy indeed!
Oh, sorry, that wasn't on purpose, no, no, no - it was just his good luck and my bad one. Oh yeah."
= https://www.bitsdujour.com/software/wordweb-pro/in=search
Thus:
In their trial / free version, they just had included web pages that didn't (allegedly: don't) present the above-mentioned problems, whilst then, after buying that thing, I had to realize my purchase had been worthless; I subsequently also commented on some other - now literally defunct, quality-wise - "forum" (which has, in-between, more or less become a "Kindergarten, Kindergarten, Kindergarten!" - your pardon: "Zettelkasten, Zettelkasten, Zettelkasten!!!" ADVERT) about such - sometimes just dumb (e.g. I have trialed "File Locator" years ago, so I cannot trial it anymore, albeit it might have become somewhat better in-between) - "trial" strategies, but which more often than not are "very well designed", in order to "get" you, see https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=43835 .
I suppose that with real hard work, javascript, etc., you could get some really immediate access to web translation (or other such) results, but it's certainly not WordWeb, paid, which'll do that for you.
This being said, among other "text tools" software, I own "Chambers Thesaurus" and "Shorter Oxford Dictionary", and which are both fantastic value-for-money, both for their sheer and simply wonderful content (sic! Oxford being thrice the price of Chambers, but both are worth every penny you spend on'em), and in spite of the fact that (MS "app"'s) "Chambers"' code obviously has been been done by WordWeb's developer, I recommend it, as well as "Oxford Shorter" - both "apps" ("Oxford Shorter being by "MobySystems", not also by "WordWeb") are obscene in their respective disdain of users' user-comp interaction needs.
In fact, I ran AutoHotkey, again, on both, and in the usual way then, i.e. AHK first analyzing the "situation", THEN only triggering the necessary button presses, so the user-interface interaction is now "acceptable" for me, but then and obviously, they must think their paying users - of which more than 90 p.c. withhold themselves the chance to run some really elaborate macro tool onto these nuisances, by way of, cf. supra, low horizon - are really nuts.
An'yes, the most elaborate trial cripplings I've ever seen in my life, that's, for the time being, XMLSplit (99 bucks, which will soon be 300€ including VAT)...
Well then, the Mezzogiorno has got it's Mafia, and we all now here in Western Europe have got the EU...
Re WordWeb:
In fact, I commented on bits:
"After buying WordWeb Pro, I had to realize that I had lost my money (20$ (EDIT: 19$) plus VAT), since all the dictionary web sites I had been interested in, were rendered in a way that didn't make their info readily available to me, and with an ad defender, it outright got impossible; I had to realize that obviously, the developer had selected the freely-available sites (free/trial, non-"Pro") in a way that those problems didn't appear before making my purchase decision.
(I obviously speak of the "standard", English, two-language and one-language dictionary, and thesaurus sites you will want to use this alternative browser interface with, not of "exotic" sites with possible non-standard, additional problems.)
Thus, your task of quick-n-easy, concurrent access to several standard web dictionaries for the same search term will unfortunately not be met by WordWeb Pro, you will have to write some little macros instead, so my hint for you here, don't try to interact with the searchbars of those sites but analyze their respective search URLs after having fired up their regular search, then write your macro(s) accordingly - and you should get 1-key navigation between your browser tabs, and a little macro getting you to some "homepage" of your own as your search "home base" (then "close other tabs", in order to fire off the whole set again with your next search term, but without closing your browser in-between); as an intermediate solution, there are free browser add-ins (of very different quality though) which direct your input into the respective site searchbar, without fiddling with the mouse in case.
As for non-web dictionaries, etc., there always Oxford Shorter Dictionary, Chambers Thesaurus (30/10$ on MS), as well as the multiple UltraLingua dictionaries (12$ each, e.g. Eng-Spanish/French and vice versa and many more), all of them are a steal in their own way (the UltraLingua dictionaries are WAY beyond of what you'd expect for 12 bucks), and I can speak about them, as well as of WordWeb Pro since I all own them (for UL, the language combis only I'm in need of, of course), with buyer's remorse just for the latter.
The "ideal" solution would be to get out just the core info from the web sites, but whilst you could do that individually, no developer may sell such a tool, for obvious legal reasons; presenting an inferior, alternative browser being not a real alternative... but kudos to the developer to have hidden that core info from me, by very neatly selecting the sites available in his tool before buying: smart guy indeed!
Oh, sorry, that wasn't on purpose, no, no, no - it was just his good luck and my bad one. Oh yeah."
= https://www.bitsdujour.com/software/wordweb-pro/in=search
Thus:
In their trial / free version, they just had included web pages that didn't (allegedly: don't) present the above-mentioned problems, whilst then, after buying that thing, I had to realize my purchase had been worthless; I subsequently also commented on some other - now literally defunct, quality-wise - "forum" (which has, in-between, more or less become a "Kindergarten, Kindergarten, Kindergarten!" - your pardon: "Zettelkasten, Zettelkasten, Zettelkasten!!!" ADVERT) about such - sometimes just dumb (e.g. I have trialed "File Locator" years ago, so I cannot trial it anymore, albeit it might have become somewhat better in-between) - "trial" strategies, but which more often than not are "very well designed", in order to "get" you, see https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=43835 .
I suppose that with real hard work, javascript, etc., you could get some really immediate access to web translation (or other such) results, but it's certainly not WordWeb, paid, which'll do that for you.
This being said, among other "text tools" software, I own "Chambers Thesaurus" and "Shorter Oxford Dictionary", and which are both fantastic value-for-money, both for their sheer and simply wonderful content (sic! Oxford being thrice the price of Chambers, but both are worth every penny you spend on'em), and in spite of the fact that (MS "app"'s) "Chambers"' code obviously has been been done by WordWeb's developer, I recommend it, as well as "Oxford Shorter" - both "apps" ("Oxford Shorter being by "MobySystems", not also by "WordWeb") are obscene in their respective disdain of users' user-comp interaction needs.
In fact, I ran AutoHotkey, again, on both, and in the usual way then, i.e. AHK first analyzing the "situation", THEN only triggering the necessary button presses, so the user-interface interaction is now "acceptable" for me, but then and obviously, they must think their paying users - of which more than 90 p.c. withhold themselves the chance to run some really elaborate macro tool onto these nuisances, by way of, cf. supra, low horizon - are really nuts.
An'yes, the most elaborate trial cripplings I've ever seen in my life, that's, for the time being, XMLSplit (99 bucks, which will soon be 300€ including VAT)...
Well then, the Mezzogiorno has got it's Mafia, and we all now here in Western Europe have got the EU...
22111
9/15/2022 6:23 pm
The above wanting to say that outlining tries to teach you that our world isn't one-, but two-dimensional... while it's three-dimensional indeed, a fact we all some sort of "feel", but then, not entirely comprehend?
In other words: outlining's some sort of'a decoy, since its - sorry for the "it's" instead of "its" indeed! - two-dimensional appearance tends to lead us to think its two-dimensional representation's all we'll get, and it's all we've got to strive to... when in fact, it's just a(nother) (over)simplification of what we endure, live in, have to cope with.
And then, indeed, when I could tell you, "outlining's IM (= information management), indeed, again", telling you, be aware, and that, NOT only in "writing", that, at any time of your outline-creating, you'll be aware of those, very distinct, categories, of:
"- when will be the hero(es) (and, in case, which one of'em?) be informed)?
- when will the audience will be informed - an'then, to what degree only?" -
then, you could discard those considerations by some, "that's creative writings only" - and you'd be oh so much wrong...
since at any moment you're writing, (about, and to any purpose, about) anything: these considerations will prevail, be it in "academic" writing, or then in "journalistic" writing down... not anymore core info, but, nowadays, your "framing" of reality, by weighting, and, foremost, by leaving out core info, and that's, unfortunately, nowadays, systematically.
Then, when I instigated you by thinking about, about WHAT to "outline" your "presentation" (to whomever), I really wrote about integration of that, unfathomable-for/by-most, THIRD dimension, and which, by essential standards, would then be the "essential" one, whilst being held off, by 95 or more of the "actors" = most-of'em: paid-writers who have some jaws-to-feed, or who are just minds-to-rent, as some non-relevant and remote "irrelevant details".
In what they call "creative writing" - some of which then gets an Acamedy Award indeed, most others'of'em not -, it'll then be about "beats"... and in today's journalistic, or "academic", writing ("Corona", or then, "Climate", anyone?) it's about what will please to the powers-in-power (and then, whatever, their individual, or then, totally absent, "credentials" might be...), an'thus, most street whores - including the ones who, by the current-and-scathing details of their individual live('s demands), nowadays, are MUCH more honest than your current,regular "writer-of-all-means" is...
Fact is, ANY outlining (i.e. incl. the 3-pane versions of it) is 2-dimensional, whilst we all know that our world, our existence is, and that's at the very least indeed, 3-dimensional...
and thus, dishonest people are somewhat and really feel "invited" to leave out "the real thing", i.e. the core details... since, indeed, any "outline" which claimed to integrate the whole, the currently-final "vision", "picture", would be beyond its means.
Trying to overcome such - originally, just: - technical limits will be then some thing... but cashing in from'em, in order to please your "master", be it your corporation, your administration, your government, your idea of what should be allowed to be addressed, and what should not be not, in order to please your master, your idea of publica res: dumb people might be forgiven, but so-called "academics" will never be, for them playing imbecile.
In other words: outlining's some sort of'a decoy, since its - sorry for the "it's" instead of "its" indeed! - two-dimensional appearance tends to lead us to think its two-dimensional representation's all we'll get, and it's all we've got to strive to... when in fact, it's just a(nother) (over)simplification of what we endure, live in, have to cope with.
And then, indeed, when I could tell you, "outlining's IM (= information management), indeed, again", telling you, be aware, and that, NOT only in "writing", that, at any time of your outline-creating, you'll be aware of those, very distinct, categories, of:
"- when will be the hero(es) (and, in case, which one of'em?) be informed)?
- when will the audience will be informed - an'then, to what degree only?" -
then, you could discard those considerations by some, "that's creative writings only" - and you'd be oh so much wrong...
since at any moment you're writing, (about, and to any purpose, about) anything: these considerations will prevail, be it in "academic" writing, or then in "journalistic" writing down... not anymore core info, but, nowadays, your "framing" of reality, by weighting, and, foremost, by leaving out core info, and that's, unfortunately, nowadays, systematically.
Then, when I instigated you by thinking about, about WHAT to "outline" your "presentation" (to whomever), I really wrote about integration of that, unfathomable-for/by-most, THIRD dimension, and which, by essential standards, would then be the "essential" one, whilst being held off, by 95 or more of the "actors" = most-of'em: paid-writers who have some jaws-to-feed, or who are just minds-to-rent, as some non-relevant and remote "irrelevant details".
In what they call "creative writing" - some of which then gets an Acamedy Award indeed, most others'of'em not -, it'll then be about "beats"... and in today's journalistic, or "academic", writing ("Corona", or then, "Climate", anyone?) it's about what will please to the powers-in-power (and then, whatever, their individual, or then, totally absent, "credentials" might be...), an'thus, most street whores - including the ones who, by the current-and-scathing details of their individual live('s demands), nowadays, are MUCH more honest than your current,regular "writer-of-all-means" is...
Fact is, ANY outlining (i.e. incl. the 3-pane versions of it) is 2-dimensional, whilst we all know that our world, our existence is, and that's at the very least indeed, 3-dimensional...
and thus, dishonest people are somewhat and really feel "invited" to leave out "the real thing", i.e. the core details... since, indeed, any "outline" which claimed to integrate the whole, the currently-final "vision", "picture", would be beyond its means.
Trying to overcome such - originally, just: - technical limits will be then some thing... but cashing in from'em, in order to please your "master", be it your corporation, your administration, your government, your idea of what should be allowed to be addressed, and what should not be not, in order to please your master, your idea of publica res: dumb people might be forgiven, but so-called "academics" will never be, for them playing imbecile.
22111
9/15/2022 6:25 pm
sorry: "forgiven", that is: historians being the natural enemies of all the phonies out there...
bigspud
9/16/2022 6:40 pm
Do you get anything actually done brother?
We all get that these words are linear representation of concept....
Seeing as you already know that phase conjugate pump waves reaching the speed of light through golden mean recursion is indefinable life....
then quality matters,. words can share quality..
how's your health?
best..
22111 wrote:
We all get that these words are linear representation of concept....
Seeing as you already know that phase conjugate pump waves reaching the speed of light through golden mean recursion is indefinable life....
then quality matters,. words can share quality..
how's your health?
best..
22111 wrote:
The above wanting to say that outlining tries to teach you that our
world isn't one-, but two-dimensional... while it's three-dimensional
indeed, a fact we all some sort of "feel", but then, not entirely
comprehend?
In other words: outlining's some sort of'a decoy, since its - sorry for
the "it's" instead of "its" indeed! - two-dimensional appearance tends
to lead us to think its two-dimensional representation's all we'll get,
and it's all we've got to strive to... when in fact, it's just a(nother)
(over)simplification of what we endure, live in, have to cope with.
And then, indeed, when I could tell you, "outlining's IM (= information
management), indeed, again", telling you, be aware, and that, NOT only
in "writing", that, at any time of your outline-creating, you'll be
aware of those, very distinct, categories, of:
"- when will be the hero(es) (and, in case, which one of'em?) be
informed)?
- when will the audience will be informed - an'then, to what degree
only?" -
then, you could discard those considerations by some, "that's creative
writings only" - and you'd be oh so much wrong...
since at any moment you're writing, (about, and to any purpose, about)
anything: these considerations will prevail, be it in "academic"
writing, or then in "journalistic" writing down... not anymore core
info, but, nowadays, your "framing" of reality, by weighting, and,
foremost, by leaving out core info, and that's, unfortunately, nowadays,
systematically.
Then, when I instigated you by thinking about, about WHAT to "outline"
your "presentation" (to whomever), I really wrote about integration of
that, unfathomable-for/by-most, THIRD dimension, and which, by essential
standards, would then be the "essential" one, whilst being held off, by
95 or more of the "actors" = most-of'em: paid-writers who have some
jaws-to-feed, or who are just minds-to-rent, as some non-relevant and
remote "irrelevant details".
In what they call "creative writing" - some of which then gets an
Acamedy Award indeed, most others'of'em not -, it'll then be about
"beats"... and in today's journalistic, or "academic", writing
("Corona", or then, "Climate", anyone?) it's about what will please to
the powers-in-power (and then, whatever, their individual, or then,
totally absent, "credentials" might be...), an'thus, most street whores
- including the ones who, by the current-and-scathing details of their
individual live('s demands), nowadays, are MUCH more honest than your
current,regular "writer-of-all-means" is...
Fact is, ANY outlining (i.e. incl. the 3-pane versions of it) is
2-dimensional, whilst we all know that our world, our existence is, and
that's at the very least indeed, 3-dimensional...
and thus, dishonest people are somewhat and really feel "invited" to
leave out "the real thing", i.e. the core details... since, indeed, any
"outline" which claimed to integrate the whole, the currently-final
"vision", "picture", would be beyond its means.
Trying to overcome such - originally, just: - technical limits will be
then some thing... but cashing in from'em, in order to please your
"master", be it your corporation, your administration, your government,
your idea of what should be allowed to be addressed, and what should not
be not, in order to please your master, your idea of publica res: dumb
people might be forgiven, but so-called "academics" will never be, for
them playing imbecile.
Amontillado
9/17/2022 6:01 pm
Outlining is writing in shorthand. It's not dimensionally limited unless the writer is. An outline is a map, not a prison. Dammit, Jim, I'm a writer, not a jailer. You can't hold me responsible for whither my characters roam!
MadaboutDana
9/19/2022 8:04 am
It's an interesting argument, not unlike the everlasting debate about the portrayal of the 3D world in 2D in paintings and other artworks. Why do humans need to do that? Who knows. Why do (some) humans like outlines? Who knows.
Amontillado wrote:
Amontillado wrote:
Outlining is writing in shorthand. It's not dimensionally limited unless
the writer is. An outline is a map, not a prison. Dammit, Jim, I'm a
writer, not a jailer. You can't hold me responsible for whither my
characters roam!
Amontillado
9/19/2022 11:23 am
That is indeed interesting. Maybe creative people have an extra does of pareidolia, the false recognition of familiar patterns in random noise. Faces on Mars, that sort of thing.
Maybe I should go stare at clouds before writing sessions. Heck, there could be a Rorschach method of outlining. I have bottles of ink for my fountain pens.
Could be I was making the mistake of spilling the ink out of nibs instead of directly out of the bottle... Oh, wait, never mind. I've actually already done that. Inadvertently. That's why I don't move the settee.
MadaboutDana wrote:
Maybe I should go stare at clouds before writing sessions. Heck, there could be a Rorschach method of outlining. I have bottles of ink for my fountain pens.
Could be I was making the mistake of spilling the ink out of nibs instead of directly out of the bottle... Oh, wait, never mind. I've actually already done that. Inadvertently. That's why I don't move the settee.
MadaboutDana wrote:
It's an interesting argument, not unlike the everlasting debate about
the portrayal of the 3D world in 2D in paintings and other artworks. Why
do humans need to do that? Who knows. Why do (some) humans like
outlines? Who knows.
Amontillado wrote:
Outlining is writing in shorthand. It's not dimensionally limited unless
>the writer is. An outline is a map, not a prison. Dammit, Jim, I'm a
>writer, not a jailer. You can't hold me responsible for whither my
>characters roam!
22111
9/19/2022 12:08 pm
Re the Third Dimension (again of general interest, not only for "creative writing", etc.)
First of all, the "FAZ" newspaper once and then systematically claimed that "Behind the FAZ, there always hides a bright mind" ("Hinter der FAZ steckt immer ein kluger Kopf") - well, it was a respectable newspaper then, 50 years ago that is - cf. the Bezos propaganda publication "Washington Post" then and today, and you'll get the idea... - and yes, whoever nowadays spends a little fortune on their subscription of either of these alleged "newspapers" (as I had, 50 years ago, for "FAZ" indeed): Why shouldn't they also pay for their subscription to inferior outlining software touted by the latter (because it's "national"? or for even more sinister reasons?), software that quite hinders to also administer that "third dimension", that bulk of "other angles", but certainly does not favor it, to say the very least - I exposed in detail here why I consider "Ulysses App" as inferior and obstructing any serious work: To quite linear minds of today, quite linear outlining software, that seems ok to me (cf. infra)...
Now who thinks "third dimension", possibly thinks "concept maps", "topic maps", i.e. "graphs" (in graph form that is), but there's a hitch: most people's minds don't grasp'em, they don't "follow", and perhaps if they do, for the initial, basic "construction", they drop out then when it comes to further developing with such a graph - "TheBrain" tried to overcome these limitations in their subscribers' brains, but I think that hasn't shown as being as too successful, since if it had, that would have been known...
Then, we have "columns", and so, many writers, and many planners in various businesses, do their planning and/or their analysis in e.g. MS Excel spreadsheets (They are other such programs, more or less specific ones, or even just csv "viewers" / editors, but the latter currently - well, I don't any that'd do - don't allow for formatting (bolding, coloring, etc.), and I think you shouldn't deliberately resign to do without this additional "dimension"...); you all know the business versions of this outline paradigm, and for two (handwritten) examples (among many others) in the writing business, see e.g. Rowling's quite basic (i.e. with just some columns) Phoenix-Potter spreadsheet here, https://www.openculture.com/2014/07/j-k-rowling-plotted-harry-potter-with-a-hand-drawn-spreadsheet.html , or Heller's much more elaborate (i.e. many more columns) Catch-22 spreadsheet, e.g. here: https://biblioklept.org/2013/05/15/joseph-hellers-handwritten-outline-for-catch-22/ ; there are many similar to be found in the web.
Now, "spreadsheeting" is obviously a very valid concept, but it isn't suited to (or is it "for"?) every creator's mind, in fact the same phenomenon as described above for graphs, here applies, albeit to a much lesser degree: elements belonging together, are stretched out over several, not necessarily adjacent columns (cf. the Heller spreadsheet), at least horizontally, and you might even be tempted to draw (in handwriting, or even in some software tools) "linking", "cf." arrows from some rows to others (since, yes, a spreadsheet is a simplified, limited (sub-) graph, and since your imagination isn't that limited (hopefully), you'll need "something more" than what just a big sheet with just two-dimensionally arranged boxes has on offer. (It's correct that with an electronic tool, you can re-order your columns, but whenever they are in "ideal order" for some rows, they are in (often really) bad order for others...)
Thus, for many a creators' minds, the ideal (sic! since best-adapted to their respective brains) form of outlining consists in two- or three-pane outlining software but which allows for different "user" formattings within the (only, or then "second") tree, and ideally also for (further ideally: quick to be switched, and stored, in combinations ad libitum) filtering (in both ways: "only show ..." vs. "hide ...") within that tree (and not in some additional, "search results", pane) - cf. my descriptions here of what (non-ideal) Ultra Recall has on offer in this respect... but which is obviously way more here as most competitors, Windows and Mac combined, and certainly much superior to that really quite flat "Ulysses App" advertized for "FAZ" subscribers...
Now, any such "outline" - see my musings here about "pivoting" though - follows one "agenda" (as today's alleged, often State- or Gates-paid "newspapers" do), and this "agenda" is "what you want to present, on the surface, and in what (presentation) order".
There's nothing wrong with that concept, as an ordering paradigm, but it obviously can't grasp all those "other" details, ANGLES of consideration, showing, i.e. SEEING, understanding, for the "reader" / "audience", and thus, those writers use spreadsheets, with (more or less) multiple "columns", in order to construct, and to remind themselves when writing: In order to NOT hold back all these "further / side / even core / inner(most) aspects" of their respective subject, but which do not fit in that respective, "current" core structure they will have chosen to "do the outline", and which for "writers" obviously is the plot (well, there has been le "nouveau roman", I know...).
Now, if you are a today's "journalist", and you either have to follow your publisher's agenda, or even do that fervently, you simply don't need such "additional entries" within your "plot outline", so "Ulysses App" and similar will do, and if you write pulp fiction, you might (sic! i.e. even then, you shouldn't, but that's just me...) use such inferior outlining software, too (and perhaps use additional tools (even pen and paper, in case) in order to remind you of "further aspects", outside of your "(then) writing (it down) tool", but it's obvious that for a serious writer - or for a conscientious journalist, but how would they be paid then? or what would they write, to start with, unemployed? books? when the book business is in the hands of... I'll stop here... -: it's obvious that for a serious writer of any kind, some more elaborate "outliner", i.e. one that doesn't hide your "additional aspects" (from your construction work, and thus, more or less, also from your memory, but forcing you to put them into the "contents"), at the very best, but allows you to also integrate them into your "outline", so as to have them "before your eyes", and ideally, even as "alternative outlines", not only one-by-one, category-wise, but in any combination you deem helpful at any stage of your writing.
(It's true that to some degree, you can realize this by tagging, e.g. by tags in the titles, but this creates confusion, clouding, "noise" in your writing, whilst with proper formatting, you'll be able to preserve at least important "categories" within your "core outline" construct all the time, and without them diverting your "flow" or hampering your orientational senses.)
If you haven't got but to "follow your (i.e. "their") agenda": Very well: hold it simple; if you strive to not alienate your audience / "reader", be aware that the "core outline" reduces your presentation, and your thinking to begin with, to its inherent two-dimensionality, so provide for means to overcome this conceptional limitation, and ideally within your writing tool itself, since you will then not have any "sync" problems, among other benefits:
Bear in mind that 2-/3- (and even 1-) pane outlining (if it meets the above requirements) really helps creation, by reducing otherwise possibly excessive, overwhelming complexity (graphs) to some mentally manageable straightfulness... but that it also works as a pitfall, by oversimplifying your thinking and thus your writing, by leaving out those angles which "stick out" of that simplified, since linear representation - thus the need to reintegrate that "third dimension" into the (inherently, by its nature flat) outline, and by any means, ideally by formatting and filtering, instead of relegating it to some external "notebooks" and the like - but that's just me, you might prefer spreadsheets to serve that purpose indeed.
First of all, the "FAZ" newspaper once and then systematically claimed that "Behind the FAZ, there always hides a bright mind" ("Hinter der FAZ steckt immer ein kluger Kopf") - well, it was a respectable newspaper then, 50 years ago that is - cf. the Bezos propaganda publication "Washington Post" then and today, and you'll get the idea... - and yes, whoever nowadays spends a little fortune on their subscription of either of these alleged "newspapers" (as I had, 50 years ago, for "FAZ" indeed): Why shouldn't they also pay for their subscription to inferior outlining software touted by the latter (because it's "national"? or for even more sinister reasons?), software that quite hinders to also administer that "third dimension", that bulk of "other angles", but certainly does not favor it, to say the very least - I exposed in detail here why I consider "Ulysses App" as inferior and obstructing any serious work: To quite linear minds of today, quite linear outlining software, that seems ok to me (cf. infra)...
Now who thinks "third dimension", possibly thinks "concept maps", "topic maps", i.e. "graphs" (in graph form that is), but there's a hitch: most people's minds don't grasp'em, they don't "follow", and perhaps if they do, for the initial, basic "construction", they drop out then when it comes to further developing with such a graph - "TheBrain" tried to overcome these limitations in their subscribers' brains, but I think that hasn't shown as being as too successful, since if it had, that would have been known...
Then, we have "columns", and so, many writers, and many planners in various businesses, do their planning and/or their analysis in e.g. MS Excel spreadsheets (They are other such programs, more or less specific ones, or even just csv "viewers" / editors, but the latter currently - well, I don't any that'd do - don't allow for formatting (bolding, coloring, etc.), and I think you shouldn't deliberately resign to do without this additional "dimension"...); you all know the business versions of this outline paradigm, and for two (handwritten) examples (among many others) in the writing business, see e.g. Rowling's quite basic (i.e. with just some columns) Phoenix-Potter spreadsheet here, https://www.openculture.com/2014/07/j-k-rowling-plotted-harry-potter-with-a-hand-drawn-spreadsheet.html , or Heller's much more elaborate (i.e. many more columns) Catch-22 spreadsheet, e.g. here: https://biblioklept.org/2013/05/15/joseph-hellers-handwritten-outline-for-catch-22/ ; there are many similar to be found in the web.
Now, "spreadsheeting" is obviously a very valid concept, but it isn't suited to (or is it "for"?) every creator's mind, in fact the same phenomenon as described above for graphs, here applies, albeit to a much lesser degree: elements belonging together, are stretched out over several, not necessarily adjacent columns (cf. the Heller spreadsheet), at least horizontally, and you might even be tempted to draw (in handwriting, or even in some software tools) "linking", "cf." arrows from some rows to others (since, yes, a spreadsheet is a simplified, limited (sub-) graph, and since your imagination isn't that limited (hopefully), you'll need "something more" than what just a big sheet with just two-dimensionally arranged boxes has on offer. (It's correct that with an electronic tool, you can re-order your columns, but whenever they are in "ideal order" for some rows, they are in (often really) bad order for others...)
Thus, for many a creators' minds, the ideal (sic! since best-adapted to their respective brains) form of outlining consists in two- or three-pane outlining software but which allows for different "user" formattings within the (only, or then "second") tree, and ideally also for (further ideally: quick to be switched, and stored, in combinations ad libitum) filtering (in both ways: "only show ..." vs. "hide ...") within that tree (and not in some additional, "search results", pane) - cf. my descriptions here of what (non-ideal) Ultra Recall has on offer in this respect... but which is obviously way more here as most competitors, Windows and Mac combined, and certainly much superior to that really quite flat "Ulysses App" advertized for "FAZ" subscribers...
Now, any such "outline" - see my musings here about "pivoting" though - follows one "agenda" (as today's alleged, often State- or Gates-paid "newspapers" do), and this "agenda" is "what you want to present, on the surface, and in what (presentation) order".
There's nothing wrong with that concept, as an ordering paradigm, but it obviously can't grasp all those "other" details, ANGLES of consideration, showing, i.e. SEEING, understanding, for the "reader" / "audience", and thus, those writers use spreadsheets, with (more or less) multiple "columns", in order to construct, and to remind themselves when writing: In order to NOT hold back all these "further / side / even core / inner(most) aspects" of their respective subject, but which do not fit in that respective, "current" core structure they will have chosen to "do the outline", and which for "writers" obviously is the plot (well, there has been le "nouveau roman", I know...).
Now, if you are a today's "journalist", and you either have to follow your publisher's agenda, or even do that fervently, you simply don't need such "additional entries" within your "plot outline", so "Ulysses App" and similar will do, and if you write pulp fiction, you might (sic! i.e. even then, you shouldn't, but that's just me...) use such inferior outlining software, too (and perhaps use additional tools (even pen and paper, in case) in order to remind you of "further aspects", outside of your "(then) writing (it down) tool", but it's obvious that for a serious writer - or for a conscientious journalist, but how would they be paid then? or what would they write, to start with, unemployed? books? when the book business is in the hands of... I'll stop here... -: it's obvious that for a serious writer of any kind, some more elaborate "outliner", i.e. one that doesn't hide your "additional aspects" (from your construction work, and thus, more or less, also from your memory, but forcing you to put them into the "contents"), at the very best, but allows you to also integrate them into your "outline", so as to have them "before your eyes", and ideally, even as "alternative outlines", not only one-by-one, category-wise, but in any combination you deem helpful at any stage of your writing.
(It's true that to some degree, you can realize this by tagging, e.g. by tags in the titles, but this creates confusion, clouding, "noise" in your writing, whilst with proper formatting, you'll be able to preserve at least important "categories" within your "core outline" construct all the time, and without them diverting your "flow" or hampering your orientational senses.)
If you haven't got but to "follow your (i.e. "their") agenda": Very well: hold it simple; if you strive to not alienate your audience / "reader", be aware that the "core outline" reduces your presentation, and your thinking to begin with, to its inherent two-dimensionality, so provide for means to overcome this conceptional limitation, and ideally within your writing tool itself, since you will then not have any "sync" problems, among other benefits:
Bear in mind that 2-/3- (and even 1-) pane outlining (if it meets the above requirements) really helps creation, by reducing otherwise possibly excessive, overwhelming complexity (graphs) to some mentally manageable straightfulness... but that it also works as a pitfall, by oversimplifying your thinking and thus your writing, by leaving out those angles which "stick out" of that simplified, since linear representation - thus the need to reintegrate that "third dimension" into the (inherently, by its nature flat) outline, and by any means, ideally by formatting and filtering, instead of relegating it to some external "notebooks" and the like - but that's just me, you might prefer spreadsheets to serve that purpose indeed.
Amontillado
9/19/2022 7:00 pm
Any tool is what you make of it. I think of Ulysses as a bad outliner the same way I think of Word as a bad spreadsheet.
That's not what either is for.
The trap I fall into with traditional outlines, and the reason I avoid them like the mixed metaphor, is that it's too easy to start telling the story. If I give away the good parts in an outline, the story will be stilted.
It's a personal failing, I'm sure. I'm more creative if I can add fresh detail to an outline as I write the story instead of just retell the tale. I don't like writing without a goal. I also don't like being herded.
Use what works, toss out what doesn't. That applies to scenes and writing tools.
That's not what either is for.
The trap I fall into with traditional outlines, and the reason I avoid them like the mixed metaphor, is that it's too easy to start telling the story. If I give away the good parts in an outline, the story will be stilted.
It's a personal failing, I'm sure. I'm more creative if I can add fresh detail to an outline as I write the story instead of just retell the tale. I don't like writing without a goal. I also don't like being herded.
Use what works, toss out what doesn't. That applies to scenes and writing tools.
Stephen Zeoli
9/19/2022 7:29 pm
There are lots of uses for outlines, of course. One interesting one -- and I think it is why apps like Roam are popular -- is dialoging with yourself. You can do that with any writing app, but you can see the dialog in an outline, if you use it for that purpose.
Steve
Amontillado wrote:
Steve
Amontillado wrote:
Any tool is what you make of it. I think of Ulysses as a bad outliner
the same way I think of Word as a bad spreadsheet.
That's not what either is for.
The trap I fall into with traditional outlines, and the reason I avoid
them like the mixed metaphor, is that it's too easy to start telling the
story. If I give away the good parts in an outline, the story will be
stilted.
It's a personal failing, I'm sure. I'm more creative if I can add fresh
detail to an outline as I write the story instead of just retell the
tale. I don't like writing without a goal. I also don't like being
herded.
Use what works, toss out what doesn't. That applies to scenes and
writing tools.
bigspud
9/20/2022 9:37 am
hey @22111
I suppose you've got a take on the anglo-hebreic flame letter phenomenon?
Mr Amontillado, I always saw it as the old adage, that it isn't art without a frame.... 'cause it offers a heightened, or equally myopic, perspective. Excuse the tangent, but the wave forms on oscilloscopes are often given amplitude and frequency, when in reality they're not nearly linear in space, -the peaks and troughs can often be seen weaker... We've got an understanding of the world based on that perspective of a waveform, yet, it's partly a lie. How many writers are flirting with the ambition to tell the perfect lie, when they write fiction? Probs a lot. Take the 'frame' of a banal reality and the perspective it offers and twist it's viewport into a story. How much more fun can we have?!
I suppose you've got a take on the anglo-hebreic flame letter phenomenon?
Mr Amontillado, I always saw it as the old adage, that it isn't art without a frame.... 'cause it offers a heightened, or equally myopic, perspective. Excuse the tangent, but the wave forms on oscilloscopes are often given amplitude and frequency, when in reality they're not nearly linear in space, -the peaks and troughs can often be seen weaker... We've got an understanding of the world based on that perspective of a waveform, yet, it's partly a lie. How many writers are flirting with the ambition to tell the perfect lie, when they write fiction? Probs a lot. Take the 'frame' of a banal reality and the perspective it offers and twist it's viewport into a story. How much more fun can we have?!
bigspud
9/20/2022 9:37 am
hey @22111
I suppose you've got a take on the anglo-hebreic flame letter phenomenon?
Mr Amontillado, I always saw it as the old adage, that it isn't art without a frame.... 'cause it offers a heightened, or equally myopic, perspective. Excuse the tangent, but the wave forms on oscilloscopes are often given amplitude and frequency, when in reality they're not nearly linear in space, -the peaks and troughs can often be seen weaker... We've got an understanding of the world based on that perspective of a waveform, yet, it's partly a lie. How many writers are flirting with the ambition to tell the perfect lie, when they write fiction? Probs a lot. Take the 'frame' of a banal reality and the perspective it offers and twist it's viewport into a story. How much more fun can we have?!
I suppose you've got a take on the anglo-hebreic flame letter phenomenon?
Mr Amontillado, I always saw it as the old adage, that it isn't art without a frame.... 'cause it offers a heightened, or equally myopic, perspective. Excuse the tangent, but the wave forms on oscilloscopes are often given amplitude and frequency, when in reality they're not nearly linear in space, -the peaks and troughs can often be seen weaker... We've got an understanding of the world based on that perspective of a waveform, yet, it's partly a lie. How many writers are flirting with the ambition to tell the perfect lie, when they write fiction? Probs a lot. Take the 'frame' of a banal reality and the perspective it offers and twist it's viewport into a story. How much more fun can we have?!
MadaboutDana
9/21/2022 9:34 am
@22111, I strongly recommend that you read Peter Watts' extraordinary science-fiction series "Firefall" (the UK book includes both novels in one, in fact), which is an exploration of different models of mind and consciousness. He's a former biochemist and one of those ridiculously intelligent people (like Neal Stephenson) who penetrate to the heart of things.
The novels are full of endnotes, too, backing up the very extensive research he did into psychophysiology (not to mention chemistry, physics, astronomy etc.), and explaining where he's taken huge liberties or added significant layers of theoretical musing onto the current state of the art.
I think you'd love it!
The novels are full of endnotes, too, backing up the very extensive research he did into psychophysiology (not to mention chemistry, physics, astronomy etc.), and explaining where he's taken huge liberties or added significant layers of theoretical musing onto the current state of the art.
I think you'd love it!
Daly de Gagne
9/22/2022 1:16 am
Hi Bigspud
I am curious. What is the anglo-hebreic flame letter? Thanks.
Daly
I am curious. What is the anglo-hebreic flame letter? Thanks.
Daly
bigspud
9/23/2022 9:01 pm
the character forms that we use when writing had to come from somewhere, right?
Have you considered that that place needs to a very organised one? the shapes and proportions of our useable letters that carried through history were always unlikely to be arbitrary squiggles...
The flame is a shape arch-type. and a real shape too, apparently, though to find one would be "special"... basically its an expression of the golden mean, one of the few well known definable, but not scale repeating, patterns, - and the shape of letters are derived from the various perspective views of it.
that shape is laid on a toroid. the base unit of self organising physics. The formative forces of the toroid (donut shape) are geometric in nature and represented by a dodecahedra. If you were to look at and derive constant, repeatable viewing angles of an organic shape (the flame) then imagine those planes of the 12 sided dodecahedron being flattened to the linear screen/paper/stone and the 'prespective' being recorded.
ok, so that gobbledygook makes little sense right...
The idea here is that the very fabric of material existence is represented in words. which is a recording of the tilt angles of our reality in time as we write. It's supposed to reason that 'what may be recorded..' is an actual representation of us writing it, and a pillar of the idea of self-awareness...
tl:dr there's lots of theories on how 'letters' came to be.. I just figured Mr 22111 like that esoteric stuff.
Daly de Gagne wrote:
Have you considered that that place needs to a very organised one? the shapes and proportions of our useable letters that carried through history were always unlikely to be arbitrary squiggles...
The flame is a shape arch-type. and a real shape too, apparently, though to find one would be "special"... basically its an expression of the golden mean, one of the few well known definable, but not scale repeating, patterns, - and the shape of letters are derived from the various perspective views of it.
that shape is laid on a toroid. the base unit of self organising physics. The formative forces of the toroid (donut shape) are geometric in nature and represented by a dodecahedra. If you were to look at and derive constant, repeatable viewing angles of an organic shape (the flame) then imagine those planes of the 12 sided dodecahedron being flattened to the linear screen/paper/stone and the 'prespective' being recorded.
ok, so that gobbledygook makes little sense right...
The idea here is that the very fabric of material existence is represented in words. which is a recording of the tilt angles of our reality in time as we write. It's supposed to reason that 'what may be recorded..' is an actual representation of us writing it, and a pillar of the idea of self-awareness...
tl:dr there's lots of theories on how 'letters' came to be.. I just figured Mr 22111 like that esoteric stuff.
Daly de Gagne wrote:
Hi Bigspud
I am curious. What is the anglo-hebreic flame letter? Thanks.
Daly
Daly de Gagne
10/1/2022 12:30 pm
Thanks for the reply!
22111
10/22/2022 6:59 pm
Another round-up, after several months - and again, I use a clearly "defined" thread of these, so that nobody could legitly complain on being bothered by my points of view...
____________________
Somebody had linked to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IkUfh05TGE
which declares that on Oct 14, 2015, and thus together with W10, OneNote will be discarded: good riddance, I, always having preached that yes, you should not integrate too many "levels" into your outline, always thought that ON's way of handling your "item's hierarchy" was sub-standard, by all applicable standards... (And as always with google's "instructional" vids, I don't "get" why they just say, what they have to say, in a single phrase then? It might be their expected ad revenues, then, entitling them to steal our lifetime? Whatever...)
A dozen or so of years ago, I had put my purse on my car roof, and then, of course, I lost it, and then, strolling the roads I had driven didn't give any result - in fact, it was a very beautiful and effective purse, just for coins, so the loss was not into $$$ but from losing something dear... Just some weeks ago, I finally did-it-again - had never done such a foolish thing in-between indeed -: I put my about-120-bucks smartphone onto my car roof, fetching some other things within the house in-between, and had thought, "this time, I mustn't do it as I did then"... and, of course, I lost my phone this time... hahaha! Well: it seems to be unavoidable!
Well, it was a dual-SIM, with two cards, one for each of "my" countries, but they were secured by the usual 4-digit code, whilst my "apps" weren't, so I wonder what the happy finder will "do" - i.e. muse? - about my 3 aGrep (!) files: b for books, c for CDs, and d for DVDs: "What?!", they might think: some high, 5-digit, number of entries, all-together: are they nuts?!" - whatever: I thus am in need of a replacement for my on-the-road DBs, in order of not buying, again, triples or even quadruples of items which I already own.
Here, first, an aside: I had told you that I had been able to discard "the SIM cards", or however I might have worded it: in fact, it had been a cheap (i.e. Android) 2-cards device, and on that one, I had been able to de-activate both SIM cards altogether; in your situation, with some just-1-card-device, and also according to your Android version, it might be impossible to de-activate the one-and-only SIM card - what do I know indeed? (I also use some ancient, traditional "mobiles" for my "phoning", in - obviously rare - "case of necessity" - my friends know about my landline number, and when I'm on the autostrada, I prefer not being bothered anyway...
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Thus, I'm in need of a replacement...
An'yes, I even looked into iThings again, on the occasion... and, well, I'm horrified!
First of all, some - many! -"mobiles" nowadays don't come with real, physical that is, "double SIM": They just offer one of the two as some "e-SIM" one, meaning you will either need some expensive "contract" for at least one of the two, or then, you're bound to just one SIM altogether - btw, I really like the somewhat brutish design of google mobiles, but for the preceding consideration, they are off - which I consider a real shame: I would have been happy to buy some google phone (i.e. within the 600 $ range) indeed...
(Here, I must admit that it's quite awful to hold a "smartphone" in "landscape mode" indeed, but that my ancient "mobile" just came with some 5" or 5.2" screen - I don't really know" -, and that's not sufficient for typing your search strings one-handedly; using a smartphone with both of your hands - while you have got two, that is, thanks Heaven! - being somewhat really weird, that is...
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Thus, yes, I thought about Apple - OMG indeed! -, since their "Mini 2021" seems something "cute", an'yes, I have to admit it, or rather, I admit it freely: Yes, the (relative) beauty of some "item" - being your "mobile", or then, your mate, "plays", so-called "inner/secret values/assets" rather playing within the "extras" crowd, right?
An'yes, the Mini 2021 seems to be some cute piece of engineering, hold in your - well: in my - hand very well, just like a "smartphone", and with just the right letter(s') size...
But then, there's simply NO iCrap alternative for Android's aGrep (!), and there's - much! - worse then, and here, I can't say I've checked: I just rely on third parties' observations:
In fact, it seems that Apple does it, like it always did: They not only give a crap on their "users'" - i.e. fanboys-girls-whatever-sex's - interests, but they actively try to BUGGER their customers, and that's notwithstanding their highly-exaggerated prices - btw: Currently, I muse why - WHY INDEED?!!! - they haven't installed some SUBSCRIPTION scheme yet, for the use of their hardware? - After all, in the Fourth Reich - oh, your pardon: in Germany that is! but see even the NYT on that latter, not-so-definite-lately-after-all matter! -, or, more precisely, within the Heise fora, I found some additional info on that subject - i.e. on Apple not only despising their customers, paying inflated prices anyway, independently of any local price inflation, but actively BUGGERING - an'yes, I'm goin'n'getting here - them:
First-an'all, I fully undersign this, "Lustigerweise schafft Apple es bislang jedesmal, wenn ich eine Anschaffung plane (u. Appleprodukte mal ins Kalkül ziehen würde) eine Situation zu schaffen, die mich davon abhält u. ich lieber in andere Produkte investiere.", i.e. "Every time, with really every launch, Apple succeeds in getting up some awful details that make me putting off, again and again" ( https://www.heise.de/meinung/Kommentar-zu-neuen-iPads-Apple-ich-verstehe-Dich-nicht-7314559.html ), but then (the same link),
"Das neue iPad Mini kam NACH den iPad Pro mit M1 und hat den den letztjährigen iPhone Top Chip A15 Bionic." - "Ich hatte mich darauf gefreut lange Jahre ipadOS Updates zu bekommen, und zumindest die ersten 1 bis 2 Jahre alle neuen Features.
Doch Pustekuchen! Alle nennenswerten Neuerungen von ipadOS sind nur und exklusiv für die iPad mit M1 SoC!" - "Die ganzen genialen Multitasking und TV/Monitor Funktionen (Desktop Mode) fehlen!" - which means, altogether, that albeit the "Mini 6" - which I had seriously considered for my purposes, before, with regret, having to discard, again, for any aGrep alternative not being available for it -, does NOT get the goodies - multi-applications and the like of iOS-for-iPad or whatever they call it, since it hasn't got the "right"processor yet... whilst having been published just in 2021, and after a many-years-long wait for a "recent", an "acceptable", some "current" version for your lounge jacket indeed... - some finally acceptable "one-hand iPad" in a word...
Let's word it accordingly to their current pricing: Their just-one-year-old "Mini" is a scam, and then, Apple's crooks - they count on (most of... as said, I'm a pensioner now) their purchasers' factual inability to get-to-the-core-info, and thus to buy-by-looks, an'yes, the Mini 6 is a thing-of-beauty, some thing I would have LOVED to lick-'n-cherish - but you see, almost any buggering implies faeces, and most of so-called "reviews" you'll discover on (or do "natives" say, "in"?) the web, are, as we all (yet ?!) know, just amazon whores' lies-to-click-the-them-(very-sparcely-)enriching-link. But then, Judas Iskariot was among them rather cheap fellows, and all of those amazon whores are just fellows-following-in-some-unspeakable-ones' footsteps, an'yes, whenever you enter, in shameful google, something like "xx (i.e. some-software-or-whatever-item) review", you'll get, 9 times out of 10, just some whores' "appreciations" of what they try to sell you, for a mere pittance for them, on amazon...
Are you nuts, really nuts, to follow such simili-landmarks?...
I'll now either buy some cheap-n-ugly 8".xx "tablet", or then, some "Galaxy A33 double SIM", I don't know yet, Samsung's defunct 8" tablets being, well... defunct, i.e. discarded...
Since...
Some months ago, I've been to some retail trade, in Cologne (4rth Reich, that is), and, yeah, their Microsoft('s) "Surface Go 3" was hot, just by laying there, on their exposition tables, and not doing anything, whilst both comparable iCrap 'n' Android, always "portable", devices, and in exactly the same posture, were just hand-warm...
An'don't dream of MS's "Surface Pro X" range: Whilst e.g. (another billionaire-by-inheritance's) "focus.de" try to sell to "you" - in fact: to what they consider "idiots-just-worth-to-further-enrich-'us" - some of'em for 800 euros - which they design as "current" - proof on file, of course, as for any of my allegations! -, it's not only the not-so-recent "1"-processor instead of the recent-indeed version 2, but most (?) of your Windows "applications" will allegedly NOT work on that thing...
Thus, just forget it, since, obviously, you don't treat with honest people on the "other", on the - do I dare say: "enemy"? - side: "Everything", or then, according to your needs, Navicat (I endorse'em, not because I'm paid in any way, but just because they're best indeed... : my CD and DVD collections are in my NTFS, multiple, HDDs, whilst my book collection is in some Navicat-SQLite db...), an'then, aGrep for your - just for quest needs - Android device, and you're done: no need for Apple's buggering you... and that being said: if ever you feel the urge to be buggered: very well, nope for objection... but just then do it the physical, the real way, don't enrich crook Cook, and again, that's just my opinion.
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An'then, yes, about "hierarchies": hold'em flat, since you'll always bear in mind that even trees are just nothing other than lists, just somewhat, quite somewhat, easier to browse, but then:
Bear in mind that in any list, ORDER is predominant: be it it "macro" order or then, "micro" order: For obvious reasons, I can't give real-live examples here, but when I tell you that whenever you, by any chance, you'll find "Some Kind of Wonderful" (Howard Deutsch 1987: p: the genial Joh Hughes indeed...) within your writings, try to move it to the very end... and call that "macro management"... whilst, within ever of yours "item" - screenwriters would call that "scenes" indeed -, if you do similar, for your findings: re-arrange your "item", i.e. your "scene", whatever, by "sending" your "treats" to the end of that "item": enchant your audience, instead of just serving'em what your superiors ask you to serve. - Right again?
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An'yes, willing to follow my tip of advice advice, I should have stopped here, but then, I'm not willing to write here but just here and again anymore, invectives abounding...:
Let's speak about FILTERING...
In fact, and as I had already said, that (Android's) "aGrap" - for which then there does not seem to exist any, i.e. not even the slightest, counterpart within Apples iCrap system -, just does allow you to search for some single (sub-)string (wherever in your active file(s)... and yes, you even can search for "compound strings", i.e. for "phrases", by "string space string", but that's not something "Boolean", not something "Near", it's just "phrase"... and then, yes, indeed, there's even some OR search, by "space"...
Whilst in Windows, there'll be "Text Filter", which is free but, again, does just search, without allowing you any editing... - but here, a space is "AND", which is quite "wonderful", considering the "competition"...
As for even editing, well, that's a real problem nowadays...
There's EmEditor, but, whilst I got the "lifetime" at the very last indeed (!) day of that being possible, is 260$ now for that if I remember well, but then, there are inferior "text editors", priced at 300 bucks, so...
And even EmEditor does NOT come with Boolean search, i.e. something like
searchterm1 searchterm2
i.e. with a space in-between, is just a "phrase" again, and there's no "AND", "OR", let alone "NOT" or even "NEAR" (if I'm not mistaken that is)...
But then, EmEditor allows not only for filtering for those lines (or then, for those which do not contain what you "search" for, i.e. what you intend to discard, and after all, that would be a very rare use case indeed...), but also allows for displaying "n" lines above, and/or below the "hit" line of your liking, and that's, for coders e.g., a real treat indeed...
There's also "EditPad Pro 8", by this world's allegedly regex master, but which for filtering lines, disappoints: in fact, there is no dedicated "filter" command, but just, AFTER regular search, it seems, there is some "filter" command, and then only , all those "filter hit" lines will be displayed in some other, distinct pane, and all of them seem to be underlined, and with yellow background, and which makes them all more or less "unreadable", but perhaps, that has been, albeit my searching for solutions, for you - remember: I own, much superior in this regard, and others, EmEditor for a lifetime and for a pittance! - for much more than just half an hours, my fault again?
Fact is, there seems to be only one, and free, Windows "app", that, for searching AND for editing, for line filtering, offers Boolean "search", i.e. incl. real (i.e. not only "phrase") AND, OR, NOT - for "NEAR" I'm not sure, I would have to check again... -, and which is free for "personal", i.e. for non-"professional" (i.e. "corporate" or then, "you'll get paid already"?) use, but which, unfortunately, seems to have been coded by total geeks: in fact, it's the weirdest "app" I've encountered in my whole life, and I'm almost 80 now, so...
(You'll find that crazy but functional "app" by searching within donationcoder indeed, and all of you say, "thank you!", to my persecutors here indeed...)
As for aGrep, you'll have to set it to "regex", in order for it getting you hits like from "somestring some_other_string_following_immediately" (i.e. just "phrase search"), without that setting, and as said, in aGreap, for Android, two strings in a row (and separated by a space) are considered "OR", which isn't that bad indeed, but, as said, there is no "AND" search which would be all so welcome... but then, there's seemingly NOTHING of the sort in Apple's "mobile" world, and then, just string, even string-or-string search, is oh so much better than nothing, with overpriced iCrap, right?
At this time, telling you you should pay 260 bucks for EmEditor outright, would be outrageous indeed, but whenever EmEditor's genial inventor gets AND and OR alone (not speaking of NOT or NEAR near), it'll be worth your try, and your buy, considering that even "traditional Eastern editors" (look that up on google if you like) don't "make" it:
For example, KEdit - down to some 59 bucks now if I remember well - presents the traditional "traditional Eastern editors" way of filtering lines (and is not open to modern, all-inclusive alphabets, hence the current pricing), i.e. you can filter, by entering some string, upon lines containing that string, and then, you can further narrow down your selection by entering further strings, for AND, or enlarge it, for OR, and NOT is available, too, but you never can display - except if I'm totally erroneous here? - the surrounding lines = paragraphs, as EmEditor allows indeed, and for the ultimate benefit of the so-called "user"... and which will be found again in dedicated search tools like FileSeek, FileLocator (in their "prof." version that is), and others of their kind; in other words: in text editors, that "vicinity display" is some extremely rare, or currently even exclusive, unique feature of EmEditor (?), and yes, that feature can be found, too, within that otherwise quite inferior "Ulysses App", available upon "subscription"...
Btw, in those "traditional Eastern text editors", there always has been an inherent flaw, and I simple don't "get it" what at least commercial offerings of that editor kind, like "KEdit", never worked on that: In fact, by every zooming in into your search results (i.e. for "search within"), or by every enlarging your search again (i.e. you obviously will have unwantedly discarded results which you now want to include again though"), by "OR" (for some synonyms e.g., but not necessarily for synonyms only...), you will have, there, to write down your search "history", i.e. your "AND" or "OR" or "NOT" steps, by handwriting, on some sheet of paper, or within some other application, i.e. there is no "search (commands) history" within those "traditional Eastern text editors", and neither in their paid version, "KEdit", if I'm not extremely mistaken here that is...
Thus, no wonder that they, notwithstanding their brilliant, original idea - line (i.e. paragraph) filtering - never got really some market share worth mentioning, there absence of "showing you what you are doing", as well as "showing you the vicinity of your hits" invalidating almost all of their inherent, albeit ever dormant usefulness.
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Btw, Edit Pad Pro 8's developer (it had been 50 bucks plus VAT, it's now 60 idem) grandiously says that the missing "AND" function in his tool can be "easily" (I cite here! and again, file-on-proof...) be pastiched by regex, whilst, as we all (?) know, regex can indeed search for a AND then b, or then for b, AND then a, but that's quite some extended string, combined, and nowhere near some simple Boolean "AND" indeed... (I have aquired some regex "mastery" over the years now, so I know how to do a regex "AND", but to call that *easy": well...)
An'yes, an'speaking of ace coders-otherwise-lunatics: That free (for "personal" i.e. non-commercial use) but totally crazy "line filtering" lister-and-EDITOR (sic! and with Boolean indeed!) is called "Depeche View Lite"...
For "Sublime Editor" (which is about 100 bucks plus VAT), there might exist some add-on or add-in, as well as there might be such a thing for "Notepad++" (which is free); I haven't trialed those though...
Fact is: If you are after your hits' "vicinity", EmEditor (or then, first year's subscription being 40 bucks, further years 20 bucks each, currently, which, considering its - comparatively spoken that is: - incredible strengths, seems very reasonable for the time being that is...) very probably will be your application of choice, and if you "need" Boolean - which comes incredibly handy indeed, I assure you! -, "Depeche View Lite" is quite incredible, by all means that is...
As far as I'm concerned, I use my venerable EmEditor for editing, and Text Filter (which, as said, comes with Boolean "AND", and which is really, really helpful indeed) for "looking up things" in my text files, whilst "Everything" is my "app" for both looking up files, and for renaming, retagging them, in my NTFS (i.e. "NT" file system").
On Android, on the road, I at least have got aGrep, with "space is OR but no AND available", vs., "with regex checked, space is phrase"...
whilst in Cupertino's - beautiful but utterly deceptive - world, I'd have nothing.
It's one thing, saying, "can you afford..."; it's quite another to constantly try to fool people... (and not even speaking of their multiple "pen" issues with their grossly overpriced "iPad 10" offering here...)
"Enough is enough", as they say... and that doesn't just apply to beautiful girls who, when it comes to common offspring, turn out what in other times they called witches.
I'll now have to live with some ugly, cheap - since there isn't any beautiful, expensive one left - Android sub-10"-"tablet"... but with some oh-so-beautiful... admirable... (as the "ideal object" that is) - recent, overpriced, worthless iPad Mini 6, not even judged worthwhile, by its creators, to get their current iPad software('s functionality), I wouldn't even have access to my data.
Don't be foolish, fellow men - and hadn't I been right, again, about that frail's just coming here in order to get info, not for any sense of "contributing"? -: Some chicks - iCrap among'em - aren't just good for admiring'em, neither for becoming the mum of your kids, nor of your data: they're just shallow.
Not to be confounded with its homonym "cello" which is one of the most motherly, gentlest, most constructive, in a word: wonderful musical instruments there is: Daniil Shafran, anyone?
The opposite of a Cupertino or any other scam that is.
P.S.
From the "outside", i.e. judging from their YT clips, their respective "help file", their screenshots and the like, I wonder why hard core academics would bother about Devonthink, instead of going straight to Nota Bene? Granted, their "all your material in one folder" approach('s realization) just explains itself by their origins, pre-web-etc., but then: both "apps" are ugly as hell, but the latter, in spite of its almost incomprehensible distinction between (first) "Framework" and then, second, "Outline"), seems to be the one with the "more-thoughts-put-into-it", no? Well, both are very "specific", "proprietary", an'thus not so well suited to some open mind, but then, for traditional academic work along the lines of the canon? ;-)
And, isn't it quite terrible, to get a range of 20 pêle-mêle apps , thrown in by some alleged phd, not mentioning either?: https://research.com/software/best-academic-writing-software - that's what I call an obscenity indeed: people just cramming the web with pseudo-info, not only stealing your life time, but also and foremost misleading us people.
90 p.c. or more of that "freely available info" - i.e. so-called "info" nowadays's utter crap, but then, our so-called "elections" ain't, to again 90 p.c. or more, but aggregated by the votes of people who don't get any other "info" than that.
Et c'est là où le bât blesse, as the French say...
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Somebody had linked to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IkUfh05TGE
which declares that on Oct 14, 2015, and thus together with W10, OneNote will be discarded: good riddance, I, always having preached that yes, you should not integrate too many "levels" into your outline, always thought that ON's way of handling your "item's hierarchy" was sub-standard, by all applicable standards... (And as always with google's "instructional" vids, I don't "get" why they just say, what they have to say, in a single phrase then? It might be their expected ad revenues, then, entitling them to steal our lifetime? Whatever...)
A dozen or so of years ago, I had put my purse on my car roof, and then, of course, I lost it, and then, strolling the roads I had driven didn't give any result - in fact, it was a very beautiful and effective purse, just for coins, so the loss was not into $$$ but from losing something dear... Just some weeks ago, I finally did-it-again - had never done such a foolish thing in-between indeed -: I put my about-120-bucks smartphone onto my car roof, fetching some other things within the house in-between, and had thought, "this time, I mustn't do it as I did then"... and, of course, I lost my phone this time... hahaha! Well: it seems to be unavoidable!
Well, it was a dual-SIM, with two cards, one for each of "my" countries, but they were secured by the usual 4-digit code, whilst my "apps" weren't, so I wonder what the happy finder will "do" - i.e. muse? - about my 3 aGrep (!) files: b for books, c for CDs, and d for DVDs: "What?!", they might think: some high, 5-digit, number of entries, all-together: are they nuts?!" - whatever: I thus am in need of a replacement for my on-the-road DBs, in order of not buying, again, triples or even quadruples of items which I already own.
Here, first, an aside: I had told you that I had been able to discard "the SIM cards", or however I might have worded it: in fact, it had been a cheap (i.e. Android) 2-cards device, and on that one, I had been able to de-activate both SIM cards altogether; in your situation, with some just-1-card-device, and also according to your Android version, it might be impossible to de-activate the one-and-only SIM card - what do I know indeed? (I also use some ancient, traditional "mobiles" for my "phoning", in - obviously rare - "case of necessity" - my friends know about my landline number, and when I'm on the autostrada, I prefer not being bothered anyway...
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Thus, I'm in need of a replacement...
An'yes, I even looked into iThings again, on the occasion... and, well, I'm horrified!
First of all, some - many! -"mobiles" nowadays don't come with real, physical that is, "double SIM": They just offer one of the two as some "e-SIM" one, meaning you will either need some expensive "contract" for at least one of the two, or then, you're bound to just one SIM altogether - btw, I really like the somewhat brutish design of google mobiles, but for the preceding consideration, they are off - which I consider a real shame: I would have been happy to buy some google phone (i.e. within the 600 $ range) indeed...
(Here, I must admit that it's quite awful to hold a "smartphone" in "landscape mode" indeed, but that my ancient "mobile" just came with some 5" or 5.2" screen - I don't really know" -, and that's not sufficient for typing your search strings one-handedly; using a smartphone with both of your hands - while you have got two, that is, thanks Heaven! - being somewhat really weird, that is...
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Thus, yes, I thought about Apple - OMG indeed! -, since their "Mini 2021" seems something "cute", an'yes, I have to admit it, or rather, I admit it freely: Yes, the (relative) beauty of some "item" - being your "mobile", or then, your mate, "plays", so-called "inner/secret values/assets" rather playing within the "extras" crowd, right?
An'yes, the Mini 2021 seems to be some cute piece of engineering, hold in your - well: in my - hand very well, just like a "smartphone", and with just the right letter(s') size...
But then, there's simply NO iCrap alternative for Android's aGrep (!), and there's - much! - worse then, and here, I can't say I've checked: I just rely on third parties' observations:
In fact, it seems that Apple does it, like it always did: They not only give a crap on their "users'" - i.e. fanboys-girls-whatever-sex's - interests, but they actively try to BUGGER their customers, and that's notwithstanding their highly-exaggerated prices - btw: Currently, I muse why - WHY INDEED?!!! - they haven't installed some SUBSCRIPTION scheme yet, for the use of their hardware? - After all, in the Fourth Reich - oh, your pardon: in Germany that is! but see even the NYT on that latter, not-so-definite-lately-after-all matter! -, or, more precisely, within the Heise fora, I found some additional info on that subject - i.e. on Apple not only despising their customers, paying inflated prices anyway, independently of any local price inflation, but actively BUGGERING - an'yes, I'm goin'n'getting here - them:
First-an'all, I fully undersign this, "Lustigerweise schafft Apple es bislang jedesmal, wenn ich eine Anschaffung plane (u. Appleprodukte mal ins Kalkül ziehen würde) eine Situation zu schaffen, die mich davon abhält u. ich lieber in andere Produkte investiere.", i.e. "Every time, with really every launch, Apple succeeds in getting up some awful details that make me putting off, again and again" ( https://www.heise.de/meinung/Kommentar-zu-neuen-iPads-Apple-ich-verstehe-Dich-nicht-7314559.html ), but then (the same link),
"Das neue iPad Mini kam NACH den iPad Pro mit M1 und hat den den letztjährigen iPhone Top Chip A15 Bionic." - "Ich hatte mich darauf gefreut lange Jahre ipadOS Updates zu bekommen, und zumindest die ersten 1 bis 2 Jahre alle neuen Features.
Doch Pustekuchen! Alle nennenswerten Neuerungen von ipadOS sind nur und exklusiv für die iPad mit M1 SoC!" - "Die ganzen genialen Multitasking und TV/Monitor Funktionen (Desktop Mode) fehlen!" - which means, altogether, that albeit the "Mini 6" - which I had seriously considered for my purposes, before, with regret, having to discard, again, for any aGrep alternative not being available for it -, does NOT get the goodies - multi-applications and the like of iOS-for-iPad or whatever they call it, since it hasn't got the "right"processor yet... whilst having been published just in 2021, and after a many-years-long wait for a "recent", an "acceptable", some "current" version for your lounge jacket indeed... - some finally acceptable "one-hand iPad" in a word...
Let's word it accordingly to their current pricing: Their just-one-year-old "Mini" is a scam, and then, Apple's crooks - they count on (most of... as said, I'm a pensioner now) their purchasers' factual inability to get-to-the-core-info, and thus to buy-by-looks, an'yes, the Mini 6 is a thing-of-beauty, some thing I would have LOVED to lick-'n-cherish - but you see, almost any buggering implies faeces, and most of so-called "reviews" you'll discover on (or do "natives" say, "in"?) the web, are, as we all (yet ?!) know, just amazon whores' lies-to-click-the-them-(very-sparcely-)enriching-link. But then, Judas Iskariot was among them rather cheap fellows, and all of those amazon whores are just fellows-following-in-some-unspeakable-ones' footsteps, an'yes, whenever you enter, in shameful google, something like "xx (i.e. some-software-or-whatever-item) review", you'll get, 9 times out of 10, just some whores' "appreciations" of what they try to sell you, for a mere pittance for them, on amazon...
Are you nuts, really nuts, to follow such simili-landmarks?...
I'll now either buy some cheap-n-ugly 8".xx "tablet", or then, some "Galaxy A33 double SIM", I don't know yet, Samsung's defunct 8" tablets being, well... defunct, i.e. discarded...
Since...
Some months ago, I've been to some retail trade, in Cologne (4rth Reich, that is), and, yeah, their Microsoft('s) "Surface Go 3" was hot, just by laying there, on their exposition tables, and not doing anything, whilst both comparable iCrap 'n' Android, always "portable", devices, and in exactly the same posture, were just hand-warm...
An'don't dream of MS's "Surface Pro X" range: Whilst e.g. (another billionaire-by-inheritance's) "focus.de" try to sell to "you" - in fact: to what they consider "idiots-just-worth-to-further-enrich-'us" - some of'em for 800 euros - which they design as "current" - proof on file, of course, as for any of my allegations! -, it's not only the not-so-recent "1"-processor instead of the recent-indeed version 2, but most (?) of your Windows "applications" will allegedly NOT work on that thing...
Thus, just forget it, since, obviously, you don't treat with honest people on the "other", on the - do I dare say: "enemy"? - side: "Everything", or then, according to your needs, Navicat (I endorse'em, not because I'm paid in any way, but just because they're best indeed... : my CD and DVD collections are in my NTFS, multiple, HDDs, whilst my book collection is in some Navicat-SQLite db...), an'then, aGrep for your - just for quest needs - Android device, and you're done: no need for Apple's buggering you... and that being said: if ever you feel the urge to be buggered: very well, nope for objection... but just then do it the physical, the real way, don't enrich crook Cook, and again, that's just my opinion.
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An'then, yes, about "hierarchies": hold'em flat, since you'll always bear in mind that even trees are just nothing other than lists, just somewhat, quite somewhat, easier to browse, but then:
Bear in mind that in any list, ORDER is predominant: be it it "macro" order or then, "micro" order: For obvious reasons, I can't give real-live examples here, but when I tell you that whenever you, by any chance, you'll find "Some Kind of Wonderful" (Howard Deutsch 1987: p: the genial Joh Hughes indeed...) within your writings, try to move it to the very end... and call that "macro management"... whilst, within ever of yours "item" - screenwriters would call that "scenes" indeed -, if you do similar, for your findings: re-arrange your "item", i.e. your "scene", whatever, by "sending" your "treats" to the end of that "item": enchant your audience, instead of just serving'em what your superiors ask you to serve. - Right again?
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An'yes, willing to follow my tip of advice advice, I should have stopped here, but then, I'm not willing to write here but just here and again anymore, invectives abounding...:
Let's speak about FILTERING...
In fact, and as I had already said, that (Android's) "aGrap" - for which then there does not seem to exist any, i.e. not even the slightest, counterpart within Apples iCrap system -, just does allow you to search for some single (sub-)string (wherever in your active file(s)... and yes, you even can search for "compound strings", i.e. for "phrases", by "string space string", but that's not something "Boolean", not something "Near", it's just "phrase"... and then, yes, indeed, there's even some OR search, by "space"...
Whilst in Windows, there'll be "Text Filter", which is free but, again, does just search, without allowing you any editing... - but here, a space is "AND", which is quite "wonderful", considering the "competition"...
As for even editing, well, that's a real problem nowadays...
There's EmEditor, but, whilst I got the "lifetime" at the very last indeed (!) day of that being possible, is 260$ now for that if I remember well, but then, there are inferior "text editors", priced at 300 bucks, so...
And even EmEditor does NOT come with Boolean search, i.e. something like
searchterm1 searchterm2
i.e. with a space in-between, is just a "phrase" again, and there's no "AND", "OR", let alone "NOT" or even "NEAR" (if I'm not mistaken that is)...
But then, EmEditor allows not only for filtering for those lines (or then, for those which do not contain what you "search" for, i.e. what you intend to discard, and after all, that would be a very rare use case indeed...), but also allows for displaying "n" lines above, and/or below the "hit" line of your liking, and that's, for coders e.g., a real treat indeed...
There's also "EditPad Pro 8", by this world's allegedly regex master, but which for filtering lines, disappoints: in fact, there is no dedicated "filter" command, but just, AFTER regular search, it seems, there is some "filter" command, and then only , all those "filter hit" lines will be displayed in some other, distinct pane, and all of them seem to be underlined, and with yellow background, and which makes them all more or less "unreadable", but perhaps, that has been, albeit my searching for solutions, for you - remember: I own, much superior in this regard, and others, EmEditor for a lifetime and for a pittance! - for much more than just half an hours, my fault again?
Fact is, there seems to be only one, and free, Windows "app", that, for searching AND for editing, for line filtering, offers Boolean "search", i.e. incl. real (i.e. not only "phrase") AND, OR, NOT - for "NEAR" I'm not sure, I would have to check again... -, and which is free for "personal", i.e. for non-"professional" (i.e. "corporate" or then, "you'll get paid already"?) use, but which, unfortunately, seems to have been coded by total geeks: in fact, it's the weirdest "app" I've encountered in my whole life, and I'm almost 80 now, so...
(You'll find that crazy but functional "app" by searching within donationcoder indeed, and all of you say, "thank you!", to my persecutors here indeed...)
As for aGrep, you'll have to set it to "regex", in order for it getting you hits like from "somestring some_other_string_following_immediately" (i.e. just "phrase search"), without that setting, and as said, in aGreap, for Android, two strings in a row (and separated by a space) are considered "OR", which isn't that bad indeed, but, as said, there is no "AND" search which would be all so welcome... but then, there's seemingly NOTHING of the sort in Apple's "mobile" world, and then, just string, even string-or-string search, is oh so much better than nothing, with overpriced iCrap, right?
At this time, telling you you should pay 260 bucks for EmEditor outright, would be outrageous indeed, but whenever EmEditor's genial inventor gets AND and OR alone (not speaking of NOT or NEAR near), it'll be worth your try, and your buy, considering that even "traditional Eastern editors" (look that up on google if you like) don't "make" it:
For example, KEdit - down to some 59 bucks now if I remember well - presents the traditional "traditional Eastern editors" way of filtering lines (and is not open to modern, all-inclusive alphabets, hence the current pricing), i.e. you can filter, by entering some string, upon lines containing that string, and then, you can further narrow down your selection by entering further strings, for AND, or enlarge it, for OR, and NOT is available, too, but you never can display - except if I'm totally erroneous here? - the surrounding lines = paragraphs, as EmEditor allows indeed, and for the ultimate benefit of the so-called "user"... and which will be found again in dedicated search tools like FileSeek, FileLocator (in their "prof." version that is), and others of their kind; in other words: in text editors, that "vicinity display" is some extremely rare, or currently even exclusive, unique feature of EmEditor (?), and yes, that feature can be found, too, within that otherwise quite inferior "Ulysses App", available upon "subscription"...
Btw, in those "traditional Eastern text editors", there always has been an inherent flaw, and I simple don't "get it" what at least commercial offerings of that editor kind, like "KEdit", never worked on that: In fact, by every zooming in into your search results (i.e. for "search within"), or by every enlarging your search again (i.e. you obviously will have unwantedly discarded results which you now want to include again though"), by "OR" (for some synonyms e.g., but not necessarily for synonyms only...), you will have, there, to write down your search "history", i.e. your "AND" or "OR" or "NOT" steps, by handwriting, on some sheet of paper, or within some other application, i.e. there is no "search (commands) history" within those "traditional Eastern text editors", and neither in their paid version, "KEdit", if I'm not extremely mistaken here that is...
Thus, no wonder that they, notwithstanding their brilliant, original idea - line (i.e. paragraph) filtering - never got really some market share worth mentioning, there absence of "showing you what you are doing", as well as "showing you the vicinity of your hits" invalidating almost all of their inherent, albeit ever dormant usefulness.
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Btw, Edit Pad Pro 8's developer (it had been 50 bucks plus VAT, it's now 60 idem) grandiously says that the missing "AND" function in his tool can be "easily" (I cite here! and again, file-on-proof...) be pastiched by regex, whilst, as we all (?) know, regex can indeed search for a AND then b, or then for b, AND then a, but that's quite some extended string, combined, and nowhere near some simple Boolean "AND" indeed... (I have aquired some regex "mastery" over the years now, so I know how to do a regex "AND", but to call that *easy": well...)
An'yes, an'speaking of ace coders-otherwise-lunatics: That free (for "personal" i.e. non-commercial use) but totally crazy "line filtering" lister-and-EDITOR (sic! and with Boolean indeed!) is called "Depeche View Lite"...
For "Sublime Editor" (which is about 100 bucks plus VAT), there might exist some add-on or add-in, as well as there might be such a thing for "Notepad++" (which is free); I haven't trialed those though...
Fact is: If you are after your hits' "vicinity", EmEditor (or then, first year's subscription being 40 bucks, further years 20 bucks each, currently, which, considering its - comparatively spoken that is: - incredible strengths, seems very reasonable for the time being that is...) very probably will be your application of choice, and if you "need" Boolean - which comes incredibly handy indeed, I assure you! -, "Depeche View Lite" is quite incredible, by all means that is...
As far as I'm concerned, I use my venerable EmEditor for editing, and Text Filter (which, as said, comes with Boolean "AND", and which is really, really helpful indeed) for "looking up things" in my text files, whilst "Everything" is my "app" for both looking up files, and for renaming, retagging them, in my NTFS (i.e. "NT" file system").
On Android, on the road, I at least have got aGrep, with "space is OR but no AND available", vs., "with regex checked, space is phrase"...
whilst in Cupertino's - beautiful but utterly deceptive - world, I'd have nothing.
It's one thing, saying, "can you afford..."; it's quite another to constantly try to fool people... (and not even speaking of their multiple "pen" issues with their grossly overpriced "iPad 10" offering here...)
"Enough is enough", as they say... and that doesn't just apply to beautiful girls who, when it comes to common offspring, turn out what in other times they called witches.
I'll now have to live with some ugly, cheap - since there isn't any beautiful, expensive one left - Android sub-10"-"tablet"... but with some oh-so-beautiful... admirable... (as the "ideal object" that is) - recent, overpriced, worthless iPad Mini 6, not even judged worthwhile, by its creators, to get their current iPad software('s functionality), I wouldn't even have access to my data.
Don't be foolish, fellow men - and hadn't I been right, again, about that frail's just coming here in order to get info, not for any sense of "contributing"? -: Some chicks - iCrap among'em - aren't just good for admiring'em, neither for becoming the mum of your kids, nor of your data: they're just shallow.
Not to be confounded with its homonym "cello" which is one of the most motherly, gentlest, most constructive, in a word: wonderful musical instruments there is: Daniil Shafran, anyone?
The opposite of a Cupertino or any other scam that is.
P.S.
From the "outside", i.e. judging from their YT clips, their respective "help file", their screenshots and the like, I wonder why hard core academics would bother about Devonthink, instead of going straight to Nota Bene? Granted, their "all your material in one folder" approach('s realization) just explains itself by their origins, pre-web-etc., but then: both "apps" are ugly as hell, but the latter, in spite of its almost incomprehensible distinction between (first) "Framework" and then, second, "Outline"), seems to be the one with the "more-thoughts-put-into-it", no? Well, both are very "specific", "proprietary", an'thus not so well suited to some open mind, but then, for traditional academic work along the lines of the canon? ;-)
And, isn't it quite terrible, to get a range of 20 pêle-mêle apps , thrown in by some alleged phd, not mentioning either?: https://research.com/software/best-academic-writing-software - that's what I call an obscenity indeed: people just cramming the web with pseudo-info, not only stealing your life time, but also and foremost misleading us people.
90 p.c. or more of that "freely available info" - i.e. so-called "info" nowadays's utter crap, but then, our so-called "elections" ain't, to again 90 p.c. or more, but aggregated by the votes of people who don't get any other "info" than that.
Et c'est là où le bât blesse, as the French say...
Amontillado
10/23/2022 12:48 pm
22111 wrote:
On any of the iPhone's home screens, touch the button at center bottom of each pane that says "search."
Or, swipe down from the center of any home screen.
Yes, it's that simple and it's built in.
Either way brings up Spotlight, which can search for strings and metadata. The search finds results from apps, web history, and files.
You may have privacy concerns, since Spotlight also returns Google search results. On the other hand, anyone who already uses Google is probably somewhat privacy-compromised.
As to Apple not caring and heaping expense on their customers, I prefer Apple Numbers to MS Excel because Numbers, in my use cases, is better than Excel. It's free, too. For data mining beyond what either Excel or Numbers will do, I use Easy Data Transform. Silly name, silly powerful.
If my only word processor was Apple Pages, my prose wouldn't suffer. It supports live document handoff between devices and where it looks like it does almost nothing, it is actually pretty feature-rich. If I had to choose between MS Word and Pages, I would use Pages without regard for the fact it's free, too. Neither Pages nor Word suits my taste for the way they handle styles. Nisus does styles very well and is very simple. Mellel is nigh-on perfect, also very simple, but different enough to mimic a steeper learning curve.
Pages has two different modes. You can run it in either word processing or desktop publishing mode. While personal desktop publishing might seem like a gentle, unicorns-on-party-invitations thing, I use the capability for pamphleteering. Currently I'm firing broadsides at a crooked property tax office.
I prefer MacOS over Windows for daily use because of the applications I have access to and because I'm pretty sold on Unix and Unix-like operating systems.
Your mileage varies.
Nothing wrong with that.
But then, there's simply NO iCrap alternative for Android's aGrep (!),
and there's - much! - worse then, and here, I can't say I've checked: I
just rely on third parties' observations:
On any of the iPhone's home screens, touch the button at center bottom of each pane that says "search."
Or, swipe down from the center of any home screen.
Yes, it's that simple and it's built in.
Either way brings up Spotlight, which can search for strings and metadata. The search finds results from apps, web history, and files.
You may have privacy concerns, since Spotlight also returns Google search results. On the other hand, anyone who already uses Google is probably somewhat privacy-compromised.
As to Apple not caring and heaping expense on their customers, I prefer Apple Numbers to MS Excel because Numbers, in my use cases, is better than Excel. It's free, too. For data mining beyond what either Excel or Numbers will do, I use Easy Data Transform. Silly name, silly powerful.
If my only word processor was Apple Pages, my prose wouldn't suffer. It supports live document handoff between devices and where it looks like it does almost nothing, it is actually pretty feature-rich. If I had to choose between MS Word and Pages, I would use Pages without regard for the fact it's free, too. Neither Pages nor Word suits my taste for the way they handle styles. Nisus does styles very well and is very simple. Mellel is nigh-on perfect, also very simple, but different enough to mimic a steeper learning curve.
Pages has two different modes. You can run it in either word processing or desktop publishing mode. While personal desktop publishing might seem like a gentle, unicorns-on-party-invitations thing, I use the capability for pamphleteering. Currently I'm firing broadsides at a crooked property tax office.
I prefer MacOS over Windows for daily use because of the applications I have access to and because I'm pretty sold on Unix and Unix-like operating systems.
Your mileage varies.
Nothing wrong with that.
22111
10/23/2022 2:13 pm
I hereby WITHDRAW the above "crook Cook", and I'm sorry!
- and let's convene his name "invites" to such irregular invectives, as well as his "situation" does, since when we read that he just got another 100m p.a., and then, it's a fact, that his staff does NOT tell you, before buying, e.g. the - very expensive after all... - "Mini", that you are going to buy recent albeit already depleted hardware, you think again...
Since, as I have said above, most "prospects" simple do NOT have that time some pensioner like myself might have, in order to even read far-down-in-some website's "outlining" hierarchy to be found user comments who share there brand-new real INFO, AFTER having bought, and paid, for such stuff...
Fact is, their "Mini" was launched AFTER the introduction of their "M1" = "Pro", and now it's simply got the "wrong", the already "ancient" processor, and so it's now "vieux jeux", just some months after its launch, and that "Mini" - the so-called "form-factor" of which, according to me again, is quite "perfect" indeed - is NOT, as we all know, sold as their "entry device", but as a highly-specialized, high-brow instrument for "professionals"... (more or less implicitely, I convene to that, but then, viewing movies, YT and the like upon it would be quite "bonkers", so it's a "work instrument" after all, and sold as that, no?
Now, I got my, this, "core info" from some "user"'s experience, AFTER them having bought, at Apple's very high prices, and that, dear fellows (irony off here...), is a state of affairs that isn't acceptable by any standards anymore, and for selling expensive tools, just like selling (sic!) so-called "info" (by what at some time we used to call "the press", but which nowadays are "all", i.e. by more than 90 p.c. of them, "government spokespeople in waiting"), the WITHHOLDING of PERTINENT info, while selling, should be considered FRAUD indeed...
(The irony here being that we ALL are so-called "consumers", AFTER that iconic "nine-to-five"..., but that a quite considerable fraction of us continues to pretend, them being some "managers" within some "corporation" within that aforementioned time-frame, that "since consumers are adults, they are expected to pertinently inform themselves accordingly to their interests as consumers, whilst corporation may remain free, please, to lie by omission, to them"... which in other words, is just asking people to spend the WHOLE of their evenings, after work, and instead of cuddling their wives and their children, and to show them some real interest (and which would indeed save almost ALL (i.e., again, more than 90 per 100) of those, according to the respective, "Western", countries, divorce rates from coming realized: You simply can't expect, and even from men, to serve some 20/24 "work" day... NOT implying by this that cuddling wife, German shepherd and kids would be some "work", but we all just have to "give" somewhat "limited service" to those we love, and whom's "bien-être" should be our foremost concern: We've got to sleep, be it just some hours per day, too, and all those - "crooks", may I say?: just: really, really dishonest people - and then, sometimes outrageously lavishly indeed - LIVE ON our not "functioning", not even for ourselves, and let alone for those who trust into us, 24 hours a day: there are NOT "crooks" indeed, but they are ticks on our human physiology: just like the terrorist that govern'us today, they BANK on our inability to really inform-us well, BEFORE buying/voting, an'then, we're all, and definitely, what they call "screwed"...
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SQLite, as even the name should tell us, has never ever been designed as a replacement for a real db backend, and whenever some of our "PIM" develovers relies on that misunderstanding that at the end of the day, SQLite COULD be brought its limits, and beyond, we, "consumers", pay the bill.
As some of you will remember, some months ago, I - again in vain, f'course, haha! - had tried to instigate some "discussion" about the proper "filing" of disparate "items", within some "big outline", and there's just one-n-single solution to that task: have some capable db back-end, which SQLite - "Lite", mind you, for Heaven's sake! -, is not.
We all know that one - sparsely intervening but valuable - contributor to his forum had said that Mybase (not the current version that is) showed deficiencies even on this side of a mere 10k of "items"... and I've said that for managing about more or less half of a million of "items" in UR - which I continue to endorse since we don't get any better currently, (much-better) "corporate" solutions starting at or with e.g. 15 so-called "seats" - well, it's hire-n-fire, so it's the "seat" that counts there, right? -, at some 5-digits, price-wise... -, for almost half a million of "items" then, I need, in UR, some MULTIPLE DBs, not just one, and more specifically, and since just months ago, I, and my life altogether, had been threatened by some "minister", "secretary of state", among other candidates for some "Nuremberg II", by some putting-to-sleep-while-finally-won't-cost-anymore, I had, in UR (Ultra Recall that is, for the so-called "casual reader" here), assembled some 20,000 and more "items", with regards to what they call "Covid 19"... whilst at the same time, having maintained, again in UR, as all my stuff since some time (again), some "politics" db...
And the necessary TANGLE between the two UR DBs finally proved to be impossible, since yes, you can discard even political measures re that disease from "other political (matter)s", but you will then have to create hundred, thousands of sheer item copies, within "Covid", and "Politics-by-countries", for some (i.e. more-then-90p.c.-of-the lot) whore press, reacting to those measures, and, foremost, touting'em.
Now, in UR, and which I consider the very best of those, minor, SQLite-backed, "PIM"s, it was NOT possible to combine my "Covid" db, together with my "Politics-in-general" one, both, individually, totalling some 20,000 and more "items", and totaling each about 2 GB... but then, SQLite had never ever been created for such tasks, right?
And thus, it revealed impossible for me to really integrate the role of that whore's press with that "pandemy" phenomenon, since links to other DBs, in UR, while being technically possible indeed, are not really what you think in-links within your data compound should be.
And, at the end of the day, why then do something about "some special data compound", off(side) your file system? The answer is oh-so-simple, and I wrote about that yet: Those developers rely onto the in-built FTS = full text search components of their db backend, SQLite in this, predominant, case...
Since otherwise, they should have to buy some, very expensive, and coming with severe limitations, search engine component, and well, that's something inconceivable then...
For example, dtSearch, which is, rightly or not then, considered the "very best" of those components, not only charged you 15,000 some years ago, but also forced you then to put your data into some non-generally-readable format, which means that even, as some PIM developer, you spent the 15 grand, you couldn't even leave alone your customers', "users"' data in some rtf, markdown or whatever easily-"exportable" "format", but you would have had to scramble it, in order to make it "proprietary".
That being said, Postgres has got its FTS (see above), too, and I suppose it's even far better than (quite "basic", after all...) SQLite's is, so...
In other words: Any current "PIM" development, any current "outliner" development that is, is subject to that awful, "SQLite being our standard", whilst SQLite had allegedly been created as a replacement for .ini-files, for up to a thousand, two thousand "items", in other words, for better maintaining quite rather long lists... and nothing beyond that very specific task.
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An'yes, the real culprit's google, since originally they had promised, "we won't be evil"... whilst nowadays, whenever you search for "vs.", for "comparison / compared", for "test", for "review", whatever... 9 out of 10 of their first tenners of "hits" are hits to whores who don't just steal your time but who, much worse than that, will lead you up the garden path... and at the end of the day, ALL our current so-called "information management" is designed to just lead you off, off your interests, the ones of your wife's, and, especially, your kids' ones.
At the very end of the day, we're currently witnessing the collective suicide of the so-called "Western", i.e. neo-Christian (i.e. beyond Middle-Age, witches-'n-stakes-n-all-that), real civilization ("enlightenment", anyone around here? hahaha... and yet, you haven't got 24 hours per day to do your very best, so you'll be pardoned again...)... but then, I, originally, had thought that at least "academics" would be outraged, incensed... and would react... but then nothing... and so, whoever, asking, how could been possible, the demise of ancient Mexican civilization, or then even, and much nearer to all of us, the advent of the Third Reich? - Are you nuts, folks? We all know the answers, since given some "situation", even the IQ 130, 140 of some folks don't bother to react.
That being said: Forget SQLite-backed PIMs: Wait for smart Postgres interfaces... integrating NTFS, "Everything"... really integrating your "stuff", that is...
Some very smart guy, many years ago, had something along the lines of, "your PIM just being some dedicated subset, and thus discarding the main of your your thoughts' elements from what you think it should be put into some disctinct, deliberate outline, will NOT help you in your thinking": that guy was oh so right...
(I'll try to find the source...)
And thus, alleged "super solutions", like "TheBrain", are nothing than smoke-n-mirrors: so sorry -really! -, about your feeble illusions...
An'yes, the inherent fault of NTFS being that it's not a db, i.e. that it doesn't - i.e. its entries don't - come with IDs, but that nowadays' file system elements' identification isn't but fluid, by respective, aleatory position... not speaking here of them, dedicated, indices-using, query tools more-or-less all being subscription-based now...
With all due respect, but using, in 2022, SQLite for IM (i.e. as an information management back-end), is just proof of your inability to devise software anymore: just "coding" isn't sufficient then, and it never was... and that's, at the end of the day, the demise of the software industry: in their days, archivar(ian)s had the been the "masters", giving access, or then not, to that "info" you were after; today, it's the web that, while giving you, 9.5 out of 10 times, just gives you crap, instead of info, google being the main culprit in this indeed..., but whenever you try to create your own system of, real, véridique, true, info, it's currently the limitations of the back-end SQLite or similar which will withhold you of "getting though", i.e. thru to that "core", i.e. to the "essence":..
Well, you very certainly will have heard about the notion of "smoke"... and our "info age"'s misfortune being that MORE than 90 p.c. of what we consider "info" is, in fact, just smoke, conceived to make you err...
An'now, we come to the advantage of those big corporations: They just have so much personpower that they are able to "cut the difference", i.e. to discard the smoke getting to them... and that's why they'll always win.
They, them only, just get the whole picture of any situation, and then, they fine-grainedely select the pseudo-info YOU get... an'then, except for also reading into the utter depths of main web sites' "comment" "outlines", you won't have a chance to look thru, too.
Since they deliberately withhold from you their core info... and even if you deploy some of the best of 2022's "PIM"s, they will not allow you to bring together all those... theirs... lose-ends...
Hence, sometimes, even just innocuous, allegedly just "technical" limitations, will serve the purposes of those who's aim's to simply "get" you...
- and let's convene his name "invites" to such irregular invectives, as well as his "situation" does, since when we read that he just got another 100m p.a., and then, it's a fact, that his staff does NOT tell you, before buying, e.g. the - very expensive after all... - "Mini", that you are going to buy recent albeit already depleted hardware, you think again...
Since, as I have said above, most "prospects" simple do NOT have that time some pensioner like myself might have, in order to even read far-down-in-some website's "outlining" hierarchy to be found user comments who share there brand-new real INFO, AFTER having bought, and paid, for such stuff...
Fact is, their "Mini" was launched AFTER the introduction of their "M1" = "Pro", and now it's simply got the "wrong", the already "ancient" processor, and so it's now "vieux jeux", just some months after its launch, and that "Mini" - the so-called "form-factor" of which, according to me again, is quite "perfect" indeed - is NOT, as we all know, sold as their "entry device", but as a highly-specialized, high-brow instrument for "professionals"... (more or less implicitely, I convene to that, but then, viewing movies, YT and the like upon it would be quite "bonkers", so it's a "work instrument" after all, and sold as that, no?
Now, I got my, this, "core info" from some "user"'s experience, AFTER them having bought, at Apple's very high prices, and that, dear fellows (irony off here...), is a state of affairs that isn't acceptable by any standards anymore, and for selling expensive tools, just like selling (sic!) so-called "info" (by what at some time we used to call "the press", but which nowadays are "all", i.e. by more than 90 p.c. of them, "government spokespeople in waiting"), the WITHHOLDING of PERTINENT info, while selling, should be considered FRAUD indeed...
(The irony here being that we ALL are so-called "consumers", AFTER that iconic "nine-to-five"..., but that a quite considerable fraction of us continues to pretend, them being some "managers" within some "corporation" within that aforementioned time-frame, that "since consumers are adults, they are expected to pertinently inform themselves accordingly to their interests as consumers, whilst corporation may remain free, please, to lie by omission, to them"... which in other words, is just asking people to spend the WHOLE of their evenings, after work, and instead of cuddling their wives and their children, and to show them some real interest (and which would indeed save almost ALL (i.e., again, more than 90 per 100) of those, according to the respective, "Western", countries, divorce rates from coming realized: You simply can't expect, and even from men, to serve some 20/24 "work" day... NOT implying by this that cuddling wife, German shepherd and kids would be some "work", but we all just have to "give" somewhat "limited service" to those we love, and whom's "bien-être" should be our foremost concern: We've got to sleep, be it just some hours per day, too, and all those - "crooks", may I say?: just: really, really dishonest people - and then, sometimes outrageously lavishly indeed - LIVE ON our not "functioning", not even for ourselves, and let alone for those who trust into us, 24 hours a day: there are NOT "crooks" indeed, but they are ticks on our human physiology: just like the terrorist that govern'us today, they BANK on our inability to really inform-us well, BEFORE buying/voting, an'then, we're all, and definitely, what they call "screwed"...
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SQLite, as even the name should tell us, has never ever been designed as a replacement for a real db backend, and whenever some of our "PIM" develovers relies on that misunderstanding that at the end of the day, SQLite COULD be brought its limits, and beyond, we, "consumers", pay the bill.
As some of you will remember, some months ago, I - again in vain, f'course, haha! - had tried to instigate some "discussion" about the proper "filing" of disparate "items", within some "big outline", and there's just one-n-single solution to that task: have some capable db back-end, which SQLite - "Lite", mind you, for Heaven's sake! -, is not.
We all know that one - sparsely intervening but valuable - contributor to his forum had said that Mybase (not the current version that is) showed deficiencies even on this side of a mere 10k of "items"... and I've said that for managing about more or less half of a million of "items" in UR - which I continue to endorse since we don't get any better currently, (much-better) "corporate" solutions starting at or with e.g. 15 so-called "seats" - well, it's hire-n-fire, so it's the "seat" that counts there, right? -, at some 5-digits, price-wise... -, for almost half a million of "items" then, I need, in UR, some MULTIPLE DBs, not just one, and more specifically, and since just months ago, I, and my life altogether, had been threatened by some "minister", "secretary of state", among other candidates for some "Nuremberg II", by some putting-to-sleep-while-finally-won't-cost-anymore, I had, in UR (Ultra Recall that is, for the so-called "casual reader" here), assembled some 20,000 and more "items", with regards to what they call "Covid 19"... whilst at the same time, having maintained, again in UR, as all my stuff since some time (again), some "politics" db...
And the necessary TANGLE between the two UR DBs finally proved to be impossible, since yes, you can discard even political measures re that disease from "other political (matter)s", but you will then have to create hundred, thousands of sheer item copies, within "Covid", and "Politics-by-countries", for some (i.e. more-then-90p.c.-of-the lot) whore press, reacting to those measures, and, foremost, touting'em.
Now, in UR, and which I consider the very best of those, minor, SQLite-backed, "PIM"s, it was NOT possible to combine my "Covid" db, together with my "Politics-in-general" one, both, individually, totalling some 20,000 and more "items", and totaling each about 2 GB... but then, SQLite had never ever been created for such tasks, right?
And thus, it revealed impossible for me to really integrate the role of that whore's press with that "pandemy" phenomenon, since links to other DBs, in UR, while being technically possible indeed, are not really what you think in-links within your data compound should be.
And, at the end of the day, why then do something about "some special data compound", off(side) your file system? The answer is oh-so-simple, and I wrote about that yet: Those developers rely onto the in-built FTS = full text search components of their db backend, SQLite in this, predominant, case...
Since otherwise, they should have to buy some, very expensive, and coming with severe limitations, search engine component, and well, that's something inconceivable then...
For example, dtSearch, which is, rightly or not then, considered the "very best" of those components, not only charged you 15,000 some years ago, but also forced you then to put your data into some non-generally-readable format, which means that even, as some PIM developer, you spent the 15 grand, you couldn't even leave alone your customers', "users"' data in some rtf, markdown or whatever easily-"exportable" "format", but you would have had to scramble it, in order to make it "proprietary".
That being said, Postgres has got its FTS (see above), too, and I suppose it's even far better than (quite "basic", after all...) SQLite's is, so...
In other words: Any current "PIM" development, any current "outliner" development that is, is subject to that awful, "SQLite being our standard", whilst SQLite had allegedly been created as a replacement for .ini-files, for up to a thousand, two thousand "items", in other words, for better maintaining quite rather long lists... and nothing beyond that very specific task.
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An'yes, the real culprit's google, since originally they had promised, "we won't be evil"... whilst nowadays, whenever you search for "vs.", for "comparison / compared", for "test", for "review", whatever... 9 out of 10 of their first tenners of "hits" are hits to whores who don't just steal your time but who, much worse than that, will lead you up the garden path... and at the end of the day, ALL our current so-called "information management" is designed to just lead you off, off your interests, the ones of your wife's, and, especially, your kids' ones.
At the very end of the day, we're currently witnessing the collective suicide of the so-called "Western", i.e. neo-Christian (i.e. beyond Middle-Age, witches-'n-stakes-n-all-that), real civilization ("enlightenment", anyone around here? hahaha... and yet, you haven't got 24 hours per day to do your very best, so you'll be pardoned again...)... but then, I, originally, had thought that at least "academics" would be outraged, incensed... and would react... but then nothing... and so, whoever, asking, how could been possible, the demise of ancient Mexican civilization, or then even, and much nearer to all of us, the advent of the Third Reich? - Are you nuts, folks? We all know the answers, since given some "situation", even the IQ 130, 140 of some folks don't bother to react.
That being said: Forget SQLite-backed PIMs: Wait for smart Postgres interfaces... integrating NTFS, "Everything"... really integrating your "stuff", that is...
Some very smart guy, many years ago, had something along the lines of, "your PIM just being some dedicated subset, and thus discarding the main of your your thoughts' elements from what you think it should be put into some disctinct, deliberate outline, will NOT help you in your thinking": that guy was oh so right...
(I'll try to find the source...)
And thus, alleged "super solutions", like "TheBrain", are nothing than smoke-n-mirrors: so sorry -really! -, about your feeble illusions...
An'yes, the inherent fault of NTFS being that it's not a db, i.e. that it doesn't - i.e. its entries don't - come with IDs, but that nowadays' file system elements' identification isn't but fluid, by respective, aleatory position... not speaking here of them, dedicated, indices-using, query tools more-or-less all being subscription-based now...
With all due respect, but using, in 2022, SQLite for IM (i.e. as an information management back-end), is just proof of your inability to devise software anymore: just "coding" isn't sufficient then, and it never was... and that's, at the end of the day, the demise of the software industry: in their days, archivar(ian)s had the been the "masters", giving access, or then not, to that "info" you were after; today, it's the web that, while giving you, 9.5 out of 10 times, just gives you crap, instead of info, google being the main culprit in this indeed..., but whenever you try to create your own system of, real, véridique, true, info, it's currently the limitations of the back-end SQLite or similar which will withhold you of "getting though", i.e. thru to that "core", i.e. to the "essence":..
Well, you very certainly will have heard about the notion of "smoke"... and our "info age"'s misfortune being that MORE than 90 p.c. of what we consider "info" is, in fact, just smoke, conceived to make you err...
An'now, we come to the advantage of those big corporations: They just have so much personpower that they are able to "cut the difference", i.e. to discard the smoke getting to them... and that's why they'll always win.
They, them only, just get the whole picture of any situation, and then, they fine-grainedely select the pseudo-info YOU get... an'then, except for also reading into the utter depths of main web sites' "comment" "outlines", you won't have a chance to look thru, too.
Since they deliberately withhold from you their core info... and even if you deploy some of the best of 2022's "PIM"s, they will not allow you to bring together all those... theirs... lose-ends...
Hence, sometimes, even just innocuous, allegedly just "technical" limitations, will serve the purposes of those who's aim's to simply "get" you...
22111
10/23/2022 6:19 pm
And now, I think it's time, finally, to clear up the core misunderstanding re outlining.
Whenever you outline, every which way, you assume, maybe even just preconsciously, that by ordering those elements of your subject that you are aware of, you get to some "natural" order...
whilst, in fact, that's not the case: Your outline's just some "helper" instrument, first for yourself, an'then for your readership / audience.
When I rant about our time's alleged "journalists", that's because I intimately know how they should do instead, but then, most of young people today have never ever witnessed, experienced journalism as it had been originally intended, designed: they just know about that current pastiche which calls itself "journalism" nowadays, but which, in fact, is just prostitution; within "State" television, you even see multi-millionaires now, and they swear they are "journalists" indeed, while having perhaps written some true, non-fudged bits, here-n-there in their young years, decennials ago...
In post-war Germany, e.g., just TWO journalists are mentioning (and both of which, ironically, were head of foreign offices of German State television, in "better", i.e. much more honest times, with regards to journalistic "ethics" and all that),Peter Scholl-Latour, 1924-2014, and then Gabriele Krone-Schmalz, *1949, which I've always held in the highest esteem, and since in this recent 71-minutes lecture, she speaks distinctly and quite slowly, I invite you to view this YT clip, together with YT's AI-backed translation function: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkozj8FWI1w - you will very quickly recognize that, first, she's absolutely brilliant, and, second, that outlining has its limits, whenever you don't try again to manipulate, i.e. to simplify, to bias your subject, but to display what I'd call "the whole picture", and yes, up from a certain point of complication, there is NO "natural" order you can give to the - in case, highly disparate - elements of your subject anymore, but that you just will have to be confident in the "intelligence" of your audience, and perhaps even in their willingness to re-listen, to re-read, and I promise her lecture will enlighten you upon this acknowledgement that reality's not some "list", a sequence of points, dots, to-treat, but, here again:
a mesh.
And thus, it's not really surprising that some people only are willing to try to perceive, then even to conceive that mesh... and you'll easily understand why most people, even "smart" ones, IQ-wise, and by far, prefer some simplified representation of that mesh, and which's then the outline, the agenda-following list of the person who wants your consent, be it for electoral purposes, or just for selling you crap.
It's of course no coincidence that politicians always had to be "straightforward" within their discourse, in order to get the necessary votes for then rule, and that implicates that at the end of the day, they will have "got" you... albeit with your complacency... and we all know that in most frauds, the so-called "victim" is, in fact, a quite active co-worker... and it's no coincidence either that most honest academics, and then even some journalists fulfilling the highest, and nowadays completely forgotten, standards of their originally highly honorable profession, seem somewhat "confused", since, again, writing and speech are just serial, linear forms of communication, where then you will be forced, by the nature even of your way of communication, to FLATTEN OUT what's intrinsically interwoven.
At 1:06, professor Krone-Schmalz reminds you, btw, of the original idea of "journalism", and at 0:54, she shyly asks, "can you follow?" - I've always loved that woman, since not only she's hyper-smart, but, and that's the real exception, she does not misuse her intelligence for her venal interests, as today, and very unfortunately, most of her pairs, IQ-wise, do.
Now, what do we learn here? I think we should accept it's ok when people, after having seen some very rich movie, tell us, "well, it's special, but I'll have to view it again" - instead of rashly blaming writer, director, whomever, for not having duly straightened it out: Even Hollywood doesn't systematically, entirely care for the simplification lovers... and the same remark obviously applies to any written development our ours, today's, yeah, quite complicated now, reality: give their authors the benefit of the doubt, even in what you might consider meanders, leading OFF from that "subject" as YOU conceived it - open up your mind to the possible side-effects, remote implications, etc., etc.: Bear in mind that even smallest minorities might be right, the choir of state-backed shouting so loud that if you don't actively decide to hear about the complications, the latters' straightforward choral literally deafen your ears.
Some oh-so-straightforward, presumedly "logic", outlines out there are, in fact, just assaults on your intelligence. Wanna example? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYKdhYBrvcE : I don't know how retarded people must be, in order to nod thru this utter rubbish of another of Germany's universities' professor's: It's a scam from the first, up to the very last minute, and perhaps it has even just been naively done, i.e. without a blatant "agenda"... but it brilliantly SERVES such an agenda indeed, by hotmelting any reason possibly left in naives' State-television-debrained brains. (Unfortunately, he speaks oh so fast... in order to overcome YT's translation AI, haha?)
Let's put it this way: Many a people will not reach out, within prof. Krone-Schmalz's any-which-way lecture, up to minute 54, very unfortunately, since they're too much accustomed to prof. Rieck's and all the others' traditional, pseudo-"deductions": allegedly "inscrutable" mesh vs. perfect outline any idiot can follow:
honest completeness vs., well, let's call it naiveté, and I think his university will be thankful to Rieck, for having further calmed down potentially rebellious spirits... ("science and press, hand in hand": hahahahaha!)
In a word then: Outlining's just an ordering instrument, between mesh reality / mesh conception, and then serial, linear presentation, but don't be as naive, or dishonest, as to make it your fallacy: neither for the audience, nor, and especially so, for your own thinking.
Whenever you outline, every which way, you assume, maybe even just preconsciously, that by ordering those elements of your subject that you are aware of, you get to some "natural" order...
whilst, in fact, that's not the case: Your outline's just some "helper" instrument, first for yourself, an'then for your readership / audience.
When I rant about our time's alleged "journalists", that's because I intimately know how they should do instead, but then, most of young people today have never ever witnessed, experienced journalism as it had been originally intended, designed: they just know about that current pastiche which calls itself "journalism" nowadays, but which, in fact, is just prostitution; within "State" television, you even see multi-millionaires now, and they swear they are "journalists" indeed, while having perhaps written some true, non-fudged bits, here-n-there in their young years, decennials ago...
In post-war Germany, e.g., just TWO journalists are mentioning (and both of which, ironically, were head of foreign offices of German State television, in "better", i.e. much more honest times, with regards to journalistic "ethics" and all that),Peter Scholl-Latour, 1924-2014, and then Gabriele Krone-Schmalz, *1949, which I've always held in the highest esteem, and since in this recent 71-minutes lecture, she speaks distinctly and quite slowly, I invite you to view this YT clip, together with YT's AI-backed translation function: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkozj8FWI1w - you will very quickly recognize that, first, she's absolutely brilliant, and, second, that outlining has its limits, whenever you don't try again to manipulate, i.e. to simplify, to bias your subject, but to display what I'd call "the whole picture", and yes, up from a certain point of complication, there is NO "natural" order you can give to the - in case, highly disparate - elements of your subject anymore, but that you just will have to be confident in the "intelligence" of your audience, and perhaps even in their willingness to re-listen, to re-read, and I promise her lecture will enlighten you upon this acknowledgement that reality's not some "list", a sequence of points, dots, to-treat, but, here again:
a mesh.
And thus, it's not really surprising that some people only are willing to try to perceive, then even to conceive that mesh... and you'll easily understand why most people, even "smart" ones, IQ-wise, and by far, prefer some simplified representation of that mesh, and which's then the outline, the agenda-following list of the person who wants your consent, be it for electoral purposes, or just for selling you crap.
It's of course no coincidence that politicians always had to be "straightforward" within their discourse, in order to get the necessary votes for then rule, and that implicates that at the end of the day, they will have "got" you... albeit with your complacency... and we all know that in most frauds, the so-called "victim" is, in fact, a quite active co-worker... and it's no coincidence either that most honest academics, and then even some journalists fulfilling the highest, and nowadays completely forgotten, standards of their originally highly honorable profession, seem somewhat "confused", since, again, writing and speech are just serial, linear forms of communication, where then you will be forced, by the nature even of your way of communication, to FLATTEN OUT what's intrinsically interwoven.
At 1:06, professor Krone-Schmalz reminds you, btw, of the original idea of "journalism", and at 0:54, she shyly asks, "can you follow?" - I've always loved that woman, since not only she's hyper-smart, but, and that's the real exception, she does not misuse her intelligence for her venal interests, as today, and very unfortunately, most of her pairs, IQ-wise, do.
Now, what do we learn here? I think we should accept it's ok when people, after having seen some very rich movie, tell us, "well, it's special, but I'll have to view it again" - instead of rashly blaming writer, director, whomever, for not having duly straightened it out: Even Hollywood doesn't systematically, entirely care for the simplification lovers... and the same remark obviously applies to any written development our ours, today's, yeah, quite complicated now, reality: give their authors the benefit of the doubt, even in what you might consider meanders, leading OFF from that "subject" as YOU conceived it - open up your mind to the possible side-effects, remote implications, etc., etc.: Bear in mind that even smallest minorities might be right, the choir of state-backed shouting so loud that if you don't actively decide to hear about the complications, the latters' straightforward choral literally deafen your ears.
Some oh-so-straightforward, presumedly "logic", outlines out there are, in fact, just assaults on your intelligence. Wanna example? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYKdhYBrvcE : I don't know how retarded people must be, in order to nod thru this utter rubbish of another of Germany's universities' professor's: It's a scam from the first, up to the very last minute, and perhaps it has even just been naively done, i.e. without a blatant "agenda"... but it brilliantly SERVES such an agenda indeed, by hotmelting any reason possibly left in naives' State-television-debrained brains. (Unfortunately, he speaks oh so fast... in order to overcome YT's translation AI, haha?)
Let's put it this way: Many a people will not reach out, within prof. Krone-Schmalz's any-which-way lecture, up to minute 54, very unfortunately, since they're too much accustomed to prof. Rieck's and all the others' traditional, pseudo-"deductions": allegedly "inscrutable" mesh vs. perfect outline any idiot can follow:
honest completeness vs., well, let's call it naiveté, and I think his university will be thankful to Rieck, for having further calmed down potentially rebellious spirits... ("science and press, hand in hand": hahahahaha!)
In a word then: Outlining's just an ordering instrument, between mesh reality / mesh conception, and then serial, linear presentation, but don't be as naive, or dishonest, as to make it your fallacy: neither for the audience, nor, and especially so, for your own thinking.
MadaboutDana
10/24/2022 1:01 pm
Ah, you're making an interesting argument: by imposing a cognitive framework (in this case, outlining) on your ideation, you're unconsciously but effectively constraining it to a specific model which may be (much) narrower than the plethora of other perspectives available to you, and will undoubtedly distort your perceptions, prioritisation, and ability to correlate.
I totally agree with this. It's why CRIMPing is such an obsessive activity. We're all basically dissatisfied with simple outlining as such. Which is why we all spend time fiddling about with ROAM Research, Obsidian, UpNote and many others, not to mention all the mind-mapping/idea-mapping software.
Finding tools that equate to mental models is extremely difficult, if not impossible. That's why everyone is boggled (and respects) those amazing mathematicians and physicists who appear to hold entire multidimensional models in their heads. An experience I personally have only ever enjoyed when programming complex relational databases, but which serious programmers no doubt enjoy much more often – having a complete multi-relational model rotating in your brain is an extraordinary, almost transcendent experience that almost encourages one to believe in Pure Intellect.
That's why I'm currently saving up for a reMarkable tablet, too, because scribbling stuff down is so useful – but I can't cope with the pile of untidy notebooks I have littering various drawers/cupboards/shelves, in various states of disciplined/undisciplined vacuity. On my iPad, Notability is the app I tend to use most often. But the battery life is rubbish.
So make it handwritten but go digital, is my current mantra. Based on the encouraging noises made by reMarkable in their latest blog post (https://remarkable.com/blog/big-changes-are-coming-to-the-remarkable-ecosystem that's now (or will shortly be) feasible.
Don't talk to me about Kobo or Amazon – both of their stylus-supporting tablets are markedly inferior (notably in terms of quality/lag).
Cheers!
Bill
I totally agree with this. It's why CRIMPing is such an obsessive activity. We're all basically dissatisfied with simple outlining as such. Which is why we all spend time fiddling about with ROAM Research, Obsidian, UpNote and many others, not to mention all the mind-mapping/idea-mapping software.
Finding tools that equate to mental models is extremely difficult, if not impossible. That's why everyone is boggled (and respects) those amazing mathematicians and physicists who appear to hold entire multidimensional models in their heads. An experience I personally have only ever enjoyed when programming complex relational databases, but which serious programmers no doubt enjoy much more often – having a complete multi-relational model rotating in your brain is an extraordinary, almost transcendent experience that almost encourages one to believe in Pure Intellect.
That's why I'm currently saving up for a reMarkable tablet, too, because scribbling stuff down is so useful – but I can't cope with the pile of untidy notebooks I have littering various drawers/cupboards/shelves, in various states of disciplined/undisciplined vacuity. On my iPad, Notability is the app I tend to use most often. But the battery life is rubbish.
So make it handwritten but go digital, is my current mantra. Based on the encouraging noises made by reMarkable in their latest blog post (https://remarkable.com/blog/big-changes-are-coming-to-the-remarkable-ecosystem that's now (or will shortly be) feasible.
Don't talk to me about Kobo or Amazon – both of their stylus-supporting tablets are markedly inferior (notably in terms of quality/lag).
Cheers!
Bill
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