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Gingko is on Product Hunt today
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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Feb 1, 2022 at 10:17 AM
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/gingko-writer
In the words of Adriano, the developer: we’re doing a big marketing push, to help get Gingko to the next level, so I can hire help to make it better, instead of juggling everything myself. Spread the word, and show your support, if you want Gingko to grow!
Posted by satis
Feb 1, 2022 at 03:35 PM
I think the time to get coders onboard was when Adriano first started charging for Gingko in late 2017. I wish him luck but I bought the desktop app four years ago and watched it lie fallow as Adriano pivoted to the incompatible, sputtering Gingko Writer service… then said he’d support both… but barely did, while disappearing for blocs on months at a time with no public support, or blog/Twitter updates.
I never trusted the app with my work because of its bugginess, but I bought it to support continued development, which never really continued apace.
Towards the end of last year Adriano made a number of small updates and apparently inspired by Obsidian and similar apps introduced the ability to import and drag/drop Markdown text to give some compatibility with those apps.
Posted by merrimanbt
Feb 1, 2022 at 04:39 PM
I like Ginkgo but the current pricing is a bit steep unless you are a heavy writer and your workflow is centered around Gingko:
https://gingkowriter.com/pricing
Annual @ $9.75 (or $117 for 12 months)
Yearly @ $12.75 (or $153 for 12 months)
Posted by satis
Feb 1, 2022 at 09:52 PM
I don’t quite understand the pricing. In 2018 I purchased the standalone offline Gingko app at gingkoapp.com for $15. Currently that site lists a $12/month subscription price, although he’s also allowing you to set your own price for the subscription starting at as little as $2/month for the service, which I think it fair if it’s robust and you can use the current features.
The site is not clear about this being a standalone app - and indeed it appears to be some *variant* of the Gingko Writer service(?!) - at a different price point?
Back in summer 2018 I’d received an email from him with the new domain Gingko.io, but that domain appears to now be defunct. You can still see him discussing it on his blog:
http://blog.gingkoapp.com/2018/02/27/gingko-desktop-an-update/
The Gingko Writer service at https://gingkowriter.com/ has a different pricing structure of $12.75/month, with no mention of setting your own price.
I am flummoxed by all this, as I was years ago when there were different choices. I don’t remember the specifics that caused me to delete the desktop app completely but I see that I no longer have it on my computer. There must’ve been some last straw I cannot recall in which I decided I’d never use the app as it existed.
All in all a bit of a confusing mess, and not the way these sites should optimally be consumer-facing at a time when the dev wants to reboot development and consumer sales.
Posted by Gianni
Feb 2, 2022 at 08:42 AM
Gingko Desktop Application
Considering that version 2 of the desktop app for Windows was declared out of beta, and therefore billable, in December 2017, my question, in the month of November 2020, was:
Or is it a case of grab the money and run?
…
… Gingko potential is killed by the fact that there is no commitment on the part of Adriano, whose nice words do not correspond to the facts.
Frankly I would prefer it clearly stated if this software can still be counted on in the future.
I spent $ 45 to fund beta-stage software, and after a long time I see no willingness to develop.
Adriano reply was:
Gingko Desktop is under active development. It’s not showing up on the main branch, because what I’ve been focusing all my energy on lately is getting the web interface working for it.
In a further post, still in November 2020 Adriano said:
What that means is, it’s going to take me some time to bring all the changes I made back into the desktop version.
So, in January 2021, I asked:
Some time is a meaningless statement. Please, specify how much.
Adriano reply was:
Between 2 months and a year, is the smallest range estimate I can give you at this point. There are a lot of unknowns, so can’t be more precise.
Again, in July 2021 I asked:
Is there any news regarding Gingko Desktop development? Your replay will be highly appreciated.
Adriano reply was:
Still no additional news on when I’ll bring Desktop up to date with latest version.
There are many people asking for other things too, so I have to go by the overall priority (which isn’t always the same as any one person’s priority).
I’ll make a newsletter announcement when it’s updated.
And, finally, in November 2021, I brought the issue up again:
Hi Adriano,
the clock is ticking.
Even more so if you take into consideration the fact that my first email about this issue was from November 2020.
It is my opinion that a definitive word from you on this subject is due to those who, at one time, trusted you and trusted your promises.
I got this reply:
As far as I can tell, my only promise was “I’ll do my best”, and I’ve been clear about not having a definite timeline on this.
Since you’re clearly not happy with your purchase, would you like a refund? If so, email me.
To which I replied:
No, I don’t want a refund. I just want to be clear on the future of the desktop version, so I can make my own decisions.
From my point of view, saying you will do your best is an answer that cannot be accepted by a professional. Especially since your previous commitments said that development would resume within a year at the latest.
But that’s not the point.
What is due is a clear stance that says, for example, that the subscription-based Web version is more profitable than the desktop version, and that the desktop version will be discontinued. This is just an example, mind you, but if that were the case, the client who bought the desktop version, with the commitment that it would be brought up to the level of the Web version, could make an informed decision.
And without asking for a refund.
Not to my surprise, however, when I went to the community forum I realized that I have been unlisted.
Which, in itself, is a reply.