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Posted by Jerome
Oct 13, 2021 at 09:11 PM
Thanks a lot for the various suggestions. I’m currently experimenting with Logseq, using the web app connected to a private github repo.
So far, I like it very much and it just requires a browser as long as I don’t use (nor need) the logseq app.
I’ll be using this for the next couple of days…
Cheers,
Jerome
Posted by Lucas
Oct 13, 2021 at 09:52 PM
Good idea. Just note that the dev is saying Github support will be phased out once Logseq has its own sync service ready.
Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 16, 2021 at 12:31 PM
Lucas wrote:
>Good idea. Just note that the dev is saying Github support will be
>phased out once Logseq has its own sync service ready.
By “ready” do you mean it’s existing already or they are ready to launch it?
I wouldn’t want to invest a lot of time into figuring out how to set up Github for this, if there are other alternatives.
The ideal solution for me would be just being able to host the files out of Google Drive, unless that’s technically not possible or if it would make the operation of the app too slow…
Is Github being used for speed considerations or something else?
I did see Dropbox mentioned as backend, so I wonder if any cloud service would do or there are technical limitations to using anything else?
Sorry for all the questions. I did do some quick searches but couldn’t find clear enough answers and haven’t had the time to delve into this topic.
I’ve been pretty happy with Roam up until this week, when I found out that the CEO personally banned me from the Roam Reddit community (alongside with many other users) because many months ago I dared to point out some of its shortcomings vis-a-vis some of its competitors.
The pettiness of this, and the fact that the CEO has time to go back and read years’ worth of Reddit posts and manually ban members for saying things like it would be important to have automatic daily human readible exports like WorkFlowy or Dynalist has) was that broke this cammel’s back.
Here is the back story, it’s all really quite ridiculous:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RoamResearch/comments/q0b9fv/mods_are_banning_lots_of_users_from_this/
Posted by Dr Andus
Oct 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM
Dr Andus wrote:
>>I’ve been pretty happy with Roam up until this week, when I found out
>tha
t the CEO personally banned me from the Roam Reddit community
>(alongside with many other users) because many months ago I dared to
>point out some of its shortcomings vis-a-vis some of its competitors.
>
>The pettiness of this, and the fact that the CEO has time to go back and
>read years’ worth of Reddit posts and manually ban members for saying
>things like it would be important to have automatic daily human readible
>exports like WorkFlowy or Dynalist has) was that broke this cammel’s
>back.
>
>Here is the back story, it’s all really quite ridiculous:
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/RoamResearch/comments/q0b9fv/mods_are_banning_lots_of_users_from_this/
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/RoamResearch/comments/q1v1qp/update_to_our_rules_a_note_on_recent_bans_from/
P.S. I might just add for context that I have never been banned from an online forum or from anything else in my life.
I never said anything disrespectful on Roam Reddit. I simply made the point a few times that it would be important to have a daily automatic export of human readible files like Dynalist or WorkFlowy has. Roam does have a daily backup, but it’s in a .edn file, which is not human readible (at least for me).
Also, I’ve been a big fan of Roam, recommending it left and right, but I certainly won’t be after this. I never much liked the CEO’s attitude and approach to the users but I put up with it because I liked the product.
But now I have completely lost confidence in the longevity of Roam, given the CEO’s mercurial approach to customer relations. Some people who were banned have even paid for the $500/5 years Believer Plan (yup, that’s what it’s called)!
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Oct 16, 2021 at 01:29 PM
Dr Andus, I am sorry to see what happened to you and others by Roam Research. I looked at the link showing deleted posts.
My gut reaction is that it’s possible the banning decision may have more to do with what is happening at RR than the comments on Reddit per se. Unconnected with Reddit, is it possible RR has some internal morale problems related to the the workplace and/or the development of RR? Also, if RR was being courted by a potential investor or buyer, thay could explain the prickly response to what was happening on Reddit.
Another possibility could be Roam’s competition, with programs such as Obsidian and Remnote, among others, seeming more prominent than ever.
Would you at this stage consider using Obsidian as a replacement for RR?
Daly
Dr Andus wrote:
Lucas wrote:
>>Good idea. Just note that the dev is saying Github support will be
>>phased out once Logseq has its own sync service ready.
>
>By “ready” do you mean it’s existing already or they are ready to launch
>it?
>
>I wouldn’t want to invest a lot of time into figuring out how to set up
>Github for this, if there are other alternatives.
>
>The ideal solution for me would be just being able to host the files out
>of Google Drive, unless that’s technically not possible or if it would
>make the operation of the app too slow…
>
>Is Github being used for speed considerations or something else?
>
>I did see Dropbox mentioned as backend, so I wonder if any cloud service
>would do or there are technical limitations to using anything else?
>
>Sorry for all the questions. I did do some quick searches but couldn’t
>find clear enough answers and haven’t had the time to delve into this
>topic.
>
>I’ve been pretty happy with Roam up until this week, when I found out
>that the CEO personally banned me from the Roam Reddit community
>(alongside with many other users) because many months ago I dared to
>point out some of its shortcomings vis-a-vis some of its competitors.
>
>The pettiness of this, and the fact that the CEO has time to go back and
>read years’ worth of Reddit posts and manually ban members for saying
>things like it would be important to have automatic daily human readible
>exports like WorkFlowy or Dynalist has) was that broke this cammel’s
>back.
>
>Here is the back story, it’s all really quite ridiculous:
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/RoamResearch/comments/q0b9fv/mods_are_banning_lots_of_users_from_this/
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/RoamResearch/comments/q1v1qp/update_to_our_rules_a_note_on_recent_bans_from/
>
>