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Posted by openloop
Aug 5, 2021 at 10:51 PM
Hi,
Over the last 24 hours, I’ve been wracking my brain, trying to get a handle on the most appropriate software base for re-organizing my workflow.
I’m hoping you, the gentle reader, can point my attention in some useful directions.
Here are my considerations:
1)Ideally, I’d like the solution to combine
(a)an infinitely-nested outliner
(b) a mindmap whose contents automatically integrate with the outliner
(c) a light task-management function capable of being accessed and updated by others
(d) full-text search
(e) compilation of the results of full-text search into documents
(f) import and export of structured data (e.g., spreadsheets, child-of-child lists or mindmap nodes)
That’s probably pie-in-the-sky.
More realistically, I’m seeking
(a)an infinitely-nested outliner
(c) a light task-management function capable of being accessed and updated by others
(d) a mindmap whose contents integrate with the outliner
More realistically yet, I’m seeking
(a)an infinitely-nested outliner that can accessed across multiple devices, and that integrates with
(c) a light task-management function capable of being accessed and updated by others
Here are a few of the things I’ve looked at so far:
*Transno
—this is an elegant and snappy online outliner
mindmap system
—-the two modes are thoroughly (and wonderfully!) linked
—it has a nicely simple collaboration feature
—unfortunately, in importing other mindmaps/structured docs, it doesn’t access children-of-children, only children
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*MindVisualizer
—I love this mindmap app, and have been using it for years
—why do I love it? It’s very easy to use, very easy to look at, and does import/export unusually well
—-simply put, it’s a well-thought-out program
—unfortunately…
—-trying to use it as a text outliner is a bit cumbersome
—-it’s desktop-only, so synching is required across machines
—- more importantly, its task-management feature doesn’t extend to team access and editing
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*InfoQube
—looks very, very powerful—and free!
—doesn’t look all that easy on the eyes
—doesn’t seem to easily extend to team-management or access across systems
—-more importantly, it appears to have a time-consuming learning curve
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*Visual Understanding Environment
*ThinkComposer
—ambitious but aging systems that grade similarly to the still-alive InfoQube
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*InfoRapid KnowledgeBuilder
—this thing looks *really* powerful, and I’m drawn to the (rotating!) 3-d spatial visualization of its database
—I can’t get the thing to download and install via the Microsoft Store
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*TheBrain
—I trialed a version long, long ago
—the tiny nodes seemed remarkably inhospitable to long text docs
—the current versions don’t seem, at a glance, substantially better
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*Xmind
—I liked the free version, way back when
—the current version seems very visually polished, but not that much more powerful
—-not that useful for outlining and team-management
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*Obsidian+LogSeq
—it looks powerful, elegant, extensible, and to be in a process of rapid mutation
—markup hurts my eyeballs, so much so that I can’t imagine comfortably using this
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*JotNotes
—very elegant freeware infinitely-nesting outliner
—-desktop only
—-no mindmapping or team-tracking features
Any pointers on (a) what I should try next, or (b) how I should synch or otherwise link apps to get closer to the workflow I want?
Thank you :)
Posted by Cyganet
Aug 6, 2021 at 06:47 AM
Hi,
I see a few options to try depending on what features you prioritise:
- Freeplane: mindmap with an outline view and light task management, offline
- Dynalist: online outliner with mindmap view, light task management and collaboration
- Quire: online outliner, full task manager with collaboration, no mindmap
- ClickUp: full task manager with mind maps and collaboration, no outline (I think, I don’t use it)
- MyInfo: outline view with light task management, powerful search and filter, no mindmap, offline
Perhaps one of them will suit your use case.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 6, 2021 at 01:47 PM
It’s an older app, and I don’t know when it was last updated, but Inspiration checks off a lot of your requirements:
https://www.inspiration-at.com/
Steve
Posted by openloop
Aug 6, 2021 at 05:20 PM
Thanks—Dynalist Pro has some nice touches, and it’s better than I had expected, given that there seem to be a number of products that were created in reaction to Dynalist.
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Aug 6, 2021 at 09:10 PM
I believe Zenkit Base https://zenkit.com/en/base/ should cover the basic requirements below.
openloop wrote:
>More realistically, I’m seeking
>(a)an infinitely-nested outliner
>(c) a light task-management function capable of being accessed and
>updated by others
>(d) a mindmap whose contents integrate with the outliner