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Posted by satis
May 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM
@MadAboutDana this is what I was referring to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bearapp/comments/mhyu0z/is_there_a_way_to_search_on_page_in_bear/
“he search function will take me to a page but after opening the page I have to read through it to find the item I’m searching, a big inconvenience on long notes. I cannot find a way to search for it on the page itself.”
to which the dev replied:
“In regards to in-note searching for iOS specifically, this is something we’d love to improve upon. This is becoming a popular request, and is something we’re definitely looking into.”
*Becoming* a popular request… four years after the app was introduced. ߧ
Posted by Lucas
May 24, 2021 at 01:23 PM
MadaboutDana wrote:
> Ulysses is great, but locks you into its
>proprietary database. While it’s perfectly possible to export
>Ulysses content (as e.g. markup files), it’s not possible to use
>Ulysses files with anything other than Ulysses.
>
Actually you can use Ulysses with “external folders” of markdown files. I always used it this way when I had a working Mac, for the sake of interoperability. See here:
https://ulysses.app/kb/external-folders
Posted by jsamlarose
May 24, 2021 at 08:01 PM
Simon wrote:
>I’m currently using bear, drafts, Standard Notes and Omnioutliner. Could
>either Roam or Obsidian replace these? My use case is teaching and
>sermon prep, plus running a church/charity.
Not to wishing to add more for you to consider, but IMHO, while Roam and Obsidian are probably The Big Two at the moment, Logseq is also worthy of consideration (https://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/9422/0/logseq—like-roam-but-based-on-markdown-files—making-major-strides) and Foam’s not far behind, if you’re desktop based and happy to work with VS Code as a base (https://foambubble.github.io/foam/).
Personally, my stack is based largely around Drafts (notes), iThoughts (maps and outlines) and Raindrop (web-based references). I’ve tried all of the PKM apps listed above (and a fair few others), but nothing has been so revolutionary that it’s made me consider shifting from Drafts. I sometimes think about running a system alongside Drafts (“syncing” a subset of notes between Drafts and Obsidian/Logseq for specific projects that might benefit from the features they provide, but that seems like more hassle than it’s worth. Instead, I’ve been doubling down on Drafts workflows, and experimenting with some alternative visualisations of relationships between notes. Nothing fancy, but enough for me to derive some further value…
Posted by MadaboutDana
May 25, 2021 at 07:42 AM
Ha, interesting. It must be said, I use the desktop app as my primary version; I hadn’t considered the limitations of the iOS app.
Fascinating how many developers underestimate the importance of the search function. In any kind of notetaking app it should, surely, be considered fundamental.
satis wrote:
@MadAboutDana this is what I was referring to:
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/bearapp/comments/mhyu0z/is_there_a_way_to_search_on_page_in_bear/
>
>“he search function will take me to a page but after opening the page I
>have to read through it to find the item I’m searching, a big
>inconvenience on long notes. I cannot find a way to search for it on the
>page itself.”
>
>to which the dev replied:
>
>“In regards to in-note searching for iOS specifically, this is something
>we’d love to improve upon. This is becoming a popular request, and is
>something we’re definitely looking into.”
>
>*Becoming* a popular request… four years after the app was introduced.
>ߧ
Posted by MadaboutDana
May 25, 2021 at 07:43 AM
True, but as the article you quote points out, there are certain limitations.
But you make a fair point ;-)
Lucas wrote:
>
>MadaboutDana wrote:
>> Ulysses is great, but locks you into its
>>proprietary database. While it’s perfectly possible to export
>>Ulysses content (as e.g. markup files), it’s not possible to use
>>Ulysses files with anything other than Ulysses.
>>
>
>Actually you can use Ulysses with “external folders” of markdown files.
>I always used it this way when I had a working Mac, for the sake of
>interoperability. See here:
>
>https://ulysses.app/kb/external-folders