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TheBrain v. Obsidian as of May 2021
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Posted by TempusFugit
May 7, 2021 at 06:24 AM
If it were an Open Source project this would not have been the case.
Web Services are a profit maximizer for TheBrain Technologies LP (But they are also a unknown security risk for us).
BTW, I just buy the app and don’t pay a sub fee. ~ $220, good for about 2 version cycles.
TBT has admirable support, also.
I have not encountered issues with connected files yet. But I am only now immersing in v12.
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Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Graham Rhind wrote:
>>and now with version 12 I cannot have more than a few attachments to
>
>That said, I do miss the web publishing.
Posted by Graham Rhind
May 7, 2021 at 08:20 AM
@Dominik Actually, that’s a great example of what’s frustrated me about The Brain for years.
I have good procedural reasons to choose to import files rather than linking to them, and for having large numbers of attachments in single thoughts. I’ve never had a problem with this approach before. In The Brain 11 I can have a thought with 280 internal attachments and it opens within 2 seconds. In The Brain 12 the same thought takes 35 seconds to open, every single time. It makes the software unusable for me. Each time something like this changes (which is with almost every major update) I have 4 options:
1) Abandon The Brain
2) Change the way I work and spend significant amounts of time altering existing Brains (which is as you suggest)
3) Run different versions of The Brain in parallel
4) Continue to pay the subscription but stick with the current version until The Brain has sorted out the issues (which can take several years and several updates, as with the notes editor debacle between versions 8/9 and 11)
Up to now I’ve usually adopted a combination of options 2 to 4, but this latest version is the last straw. The developers have always brushed off concerns from users about some updates. I’m putting in a lot of effort to make my work adapt to the software instead of the software adapting to my work. In the good old days, of course, I would have bought an update and could stick with it without extra costs until a later, better, version came along. Now, with a subscription, I’d be paying to use legacy software. It’s time for me to walk away (for the time being) and vote with my wallet.
Sure, I shall miss The Brain more than they will miss my subscription money, but having my data in more boring but more stable (and, incidentally, very much cheaper) software is saving me time and money. I’m not saying I won’t go back at some stage, but I shall be much more wary about putting any amounts of data back into it.
@TempusFugit I find the non-subscription version rather limited considering its cost, but that may be a way forward for me at some time in the future.
Graham
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
May 7, 2021 at 10:22 AM
This is a good choice, but only if you do not intend to synchronize your brains across devices.
Dominik Holenstein wrote:
I have tried to move to Obsidian / Roam / Mem but then quickly decided
>to continue with TheBrain. I have been using it since 1999 and the main
>brain file has 13600 thoughts.
>Files are not imported - I just add them as a link. This approach does
>not increase the size of a brain file and the tool is fast and runs
>without any issues.
>
>You can change this under Preferences (TheBrain 12): Options ->
>Preferences -> Behavior (tab) -> Content (section) -> At “On drag and
>drop files:” choose “Link to dropped files”.
>
>Kind regards,
>Dominik
>
>Graham Rhind wrote:
>>(...) and now with version 12 I cannot have more than a few attachments
>to any
>>note without the whole thing grinding to a virtual halt.
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
May 7, 2021 at 11:56 AM
What if the paths to external files remain the same across devices? I do this with Dropbox.
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>This is a good choice, but only if you do not intend to synchronize your
>brains across devices.
>
>Dominik Holenstein wrote:
>I have tried to move to Obsidian / Roam / Mem but then quickly decided
>>to continue with TheBrain. I have been using it since 1999 and the main
>>brain file has 13600 thoughts.
>>Files are not imported - I just add them as a link. This approach does
>>not increase the size of a brain file and the tool is fast and runs
>>without any issues.
>>
>>You can change this under Preferences (TheBrain 12): Options ->
>>Preferences -> Behavior (tab) -> Content (section) -> At “On drag and
>>drop files:” choose “Link to dropped files”.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>Dominik
>>
>>Graham Rhind wrote:
>>>(...) and now with version 12 I cannot have more than a few
>attachments
>>to any
>>>note without the whole thing grinding to a virtual halt.
Posted by Franz Grieser
May 7, 2021 at 11:58 AM
Graham Rhind wrote:
>Sure, I shall miss The Brain more than they will miss my subscription
>money, but having my data in more boring but more stable (and,
>incidentally, very much cheaper) software is saving me time and money.
Have you already decided which software you will move your data to? If so: What’s your choice?