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Posted by satis
Dec 29, 2021 at 11:38 AM

MadaboutDana wrote:

>In theory, I agree. In practice, the concept of “unlimited”
>storage is purely theoretical.

Except it’s a tacit contract with users, and not theoretical. Countless apps from small cloud services to large (eg Google Photos) offered free unlimited storage… but then pulled the rug from users. (Or at the very least data-scraped user data and sold info to advertisers, a la Edison Mail.)

>I suspect this offer is based on an actuarial calculation: most people
>won’t use more than a fairly predictable range of storage volumes.
>A few might use vast amounts of storage. A very large number (probably
>the majority) of users won’t use much storage at all. Plus: I have
>no idea what storage costs in Vietnam, but I’m assuming
>that’s something a sensible actuarial calculation would also
>factor in.

Vietnamese data storage isn’t vastly cheaper, if it’s cheaper at all, than any other location for extensible cloud storage and support. A sensible assumption is considering them just following the huge number of VC-backed startups in the last decade who sacrificed profits to grow a userbase, then flipped the company (usually not successfully), or changed the ToS on users.

The tiniest, most parsimonious ongoing companies with significant cloud data costs all charge subscriptions for unlimited file storage. If the company believes what it’s saying it’s not being rational. (I’m reminded of the joke: we lose money on every user but we make it up in volume.) I think they are rational, but not candid.

Posted by Thomas
Dec 30, 2021 at 03:15 AM

Thank you for your interest in our viability with current unlimited storage.

We do not store any data in Vietnam. We’re using Firebase to store all of our users’ data in a US server, and at this point the costs are still within manageable range. We actively monitor user usage and continuously optimize the app to use less resources from the server. What Bill said is indeed true, the majority of our users don’t use that much space and luckily Firebase also offers a reasonable cost to store user files and attachments :)

UpNote is an indie project (it was started as a side project and the app’s earnings have allowed us to work on it full time recently). We have no intention of selling UpNote to a larger company. Although small, our team is passionate about creating useful software for our users and developing UpNote steadily.

Again, thank you for all your support so far. Without the support of our early adopters, we wouldn’t have made it this far :)

Thomas

Posted by Thomas
Dec 30, 2021 at 08:40 AM

Having said that, we are aware that the lifetime offer might not last and we may need to switch to all subscription at some point in the future. However the new pricing structure will only be applied to new users and won’t affect past and existing lifetime users.

Thomas wrote:
Thank you for your interest in our viability with current unlimited
>storage.
> >We do not store any data in Vietnam. We’re using Firebase to store all
>of our users’ data in a US server, and at this point the costs are still
>within manageable range. We actively monitor user usage and continuously
>optimize the app to use less resources from the server. What Bill said
>is indeed true, the majority of our users don’t use that much space and
>luckily Firebase also offers a reasonable cost to store user files and
>attachments :)
> >UpNote is an indie project (it was started as a side project and the
>app’s earnings have allowed us to work on it full time recently). We
>have no intention of selling UpNote to a larger company. Although small,
>our team is passionate about creating useful software for our users and
>developing UpNote steadily.
> >Again, thank you for all your support so far. Without the support of our
>early adopters, we wouldn’t have made it this far :)
> >Thomas

Posted by Geoffrey Miller
Dec 30, 2021 at 05:17 PM

Is there any way to download the Windows version without using the Microsoft store?

Posted by Thomas
Jan 6, 2022 at 04:56 AM

Hi Geoffrey

We plan to work on a portable version of UpNote for Windows soon :)

Geoffrey Miller wrote:
Is there any way to download the Windows version without using the
>Microsoft store?

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