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Posted by MadaboutDana
May 27, 2021 at 03:03 PM
Craft is wonderful, but as I’ve been using it more in anger, I’ve found there are limitations to the nesting approach, especially in terms of convenient overview. For laying out ideas, it’s much easier to use a folding tool. Once UpNote has incorporated folding, I suspect it’ll be my preferred drafting platform – it produces very nice PDFs already (although Craft is the go-to PDF generator if you want something with lots of links, sections etc.!). The TOC in UpNote has already made a huge difference to the ease of use; I was using it just yesterday to produce a big summary of a client meeting, and the things I found most valuable were:
- the ability to open multiple windows (so I had my rough notes in one, my “tidy” notes in the other, plus a bunch of references in a third)
- the table of contents
- the in-note search facility
- the excellent PDF export
What’s still a (minor) weakness is UpNote’s insistence on calling up the main window for operations (it’s been pointed out already as a less desirable aspect of the Menu Bar icon). If operations could be isolated to a note’s specific window, that would be cool. Having said that, it’s really only a very fussy point – overall, I found the experience extremely pleasant. UpNote with multiple windows, TOC *and folding* will be a very pleasant environment indeed.
If UpNote could also move paragraphs using a simple key combo, that would be splendid! Maybe it can… I’d better investigate ;-)
steveylang wrote:
It works very well for navigating larger documents for sure, better than
>I imagined.
>
>I emailed and asked the dev to add ability to fold in the TOC, which he
>seemed to like and I imagine shouldn’t be too hard to implement.
>
>He also said collapsible sections are still coming.
>
>I have been trying out Craft and really liking it, the pages within
>pages model is really great (the way Craft formats is not only
>attractive but makes documents easy to navigate). But with these
>improvements I will most likely be staying with UpNote.
>
>MadaboutDana wrote:
>Dang, hadn’t spotted that one – works really well. Nice
>>implementation, too (under other document info like created/modified
>>dates and statistics, but all folding).
>>
>>steveylang wrote:
>>UpNote added an right side info panel that includes a Table of Contents
>>>(shows all headers, 3 levels available.) Not quite outlining but a
>nice
>>>way to navigate longer documents.
>>>
>>>https://medium.com/upnote/table-of-contents-741553fbd260
>>>
Posted by MadaboutDana
May 27, 2021 at 03:15 PM
Also worth mentioning that UpNote has now put bidirectional links in the Info sidebar, à la Obsidian, which is a much better place for them (previously, they were in a dropdown menu).
So you can keep “Links to this note” in view at all times, if you so wish – very useful if you’re spreading a research project out over multiple notes.
Posted by steveylang
May 27, 2021 at 10:45 PM
MadaboutDana wrote:
Craft is wonderful, but as I’ve been using it more in anger,
>I’ve found there are limitations to the nesting approach,
>especially in terms of convenient overview. For laying out ideas,
That makes sense- folding allows you to expand and collapse, whereas in Craft a sub-page cannot be expanded within its master page.
In any case, I’m finding the TOC is really useful and a great interim for helping to manage and navigate larger notes.
>it’s much easier to use a folding tool. Once UpNote has
>incorporated folding, I suspect it’ll be my preferred drafting
>platform – it produces very nice PDFs already (although Craft is
>the go-to PDF generator if you want something with lots of links,
>sections etc.!). The TOC in UpNote has already made a huge difference to
>the ease of use; I was using it just yesterday to produce a big summary
>of a client meeting, and the things I found most valuable were:
>
>- the ability to open multiple windows (so I had my rough notes in one,
>my “tidy” notes in the other, plus a bunch of references in
>a third)
>- the table of contents
>- the in-note search facility
>- the excellent PDF export
Somehow it’s the overall package that has really added up for me too. The feature set is now pretty wide and mostly all very well-implemented, and is being expanded at a good pace.
>If UpNote could also move paragraphs using a simple key combo, that
>would be splendid! Maybe it can… I’d better investigate ;-)
>
I looked for that and didn’t find a way- I think it would be very easy for the developer (Thomas) to add this.
On a related note, I had asked him to take a look at how drag-and-drop re-ordering of tasks is done in Apple Notes. But keyboard commands for general paragraph movement would be more versatile.
Posted by exatty95
May 28, 2021 at 03:05 PM
FWIW, I emailed the developer to say that a portable version would be useful, and he responded right away to say that a portable version is planned.
Posted by Lb
May 28, 2021 at 03:53 PM
exatty95 wrote:
FWIW, I emailed the developer to say that a portable version would be
>useful, and he responded right away to say that a portable version is
>planned.
That’s what I’ve been waiting for. I’ve been trying it out since the forum started and I like it a lot. Two things I’ve been needing before getting the lifetime sub is a portable version and having my data localized so I can have it on Portable stick with portable program for emergencies and not having access to the internet.
Thanks for the notice.
Have a good one,
Larry