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Posted by jbaltsar
Oct 27, 2020 at 08:28 AM
You could give Joplin a try (https://joplinapp.org). It has a web clipper which works very nicely and which also cleans and sanitizes the HTML. It’s open source and actively developed, only negative: you can only have one database, so if you plan to use it also for your personal notes etc it can become crouded (but works fine for me so far).
Other options (they all have some web clipping features)
Trilium (https://github.com/zadam/trilium)
InfoQube and IQOutliner (https://www.infoqube.biz)
QOwnNotes (https://www.qownnotes.org)
Notion
So far Joplin feels best for me, but all do the job.
Posted by Mirce
Oct 27, 2020 at 08:31 AM
Interesting workflow. I also used to Save As PDF / Print to PDF in Chrome for a while. Still use it for some pages (if they print correctly as PDF’s), however I found that PDF is sort of a dead end (for me). If I have the articles as html, I can later convert them to PDF if needed, but the other way around (PDF—> html) is not feasible.
Ah the Mac world. You are so “spoiled” by great applications. I’ve been tempted 100s of times to invest in a Mac, however the costs are prohibitive from my point of view. Managed to make a virtual machine with MacOS, however, played arround with some apps, however this solution is cumbersome (resolution of the guest OS is low, as MacOS is not officially supported by VirtualPC).
MadaboutDana wrote:
I tend to print off articles etc. I find useful to PDF, saving them to a
>folder/set of folders indexed by FoxTrot Pro. I did use Curiota (macOS),
>the rather nice free app provided by the developer of Curio; this works
>extremely well if you’ve got a large set of subfolders. However,
>for various boring reasons I now use a simple PDF export option I set up
>myself in Safari’s print dialog box.
>
>Having said that, some web pages won’t allow you to go into reader
>view, or even print off more than one page at a time. For these, I use
>Bear (macOS/iOS only), which has a truly great web page import option
>(driven by a Safari/Chrome extension). The page ends up as Markdown,
>plus whatever images were on the page copied to a subfolder. You can
>then export the Bear page (if you want to) as PDF or a number of other
>formats.
>
>I regularly trawl through my (vast) collection of PDF files winnowing
>them down, or reducing file sizes using PDF Expert’s “Reduce
>File Size” option (again, macOS/iOS only).
>
>Other options involving Safari extensions include Quiver (which handles
>web pages very well, but is restricted to macOS only) and Keep
>Everything (a rather good markdown-based information manager which
>hasn’t been updated for a while, but is very powerful; Bear is
>similar, however, in that it converts web pages into markdown).
>
>MacJournal, DEVONthink and Scrivener also have “Save as PDF”
>options embedded in the macOS print dialog box, but I haven’t
>experimented with those. At one point I also set up Notebooks as a
>“Save to PDF” option, but found that this doesn’t
>always work predictably.
>
>Cheers,
>Bill
Posted by Mirce
Oct 27, 2020 at 08:50 AM
Thank you for your suggestions. I have tried Joplin for cross-platform note taking (Windows,Android,iOS). I did try the clipping option couple of years ago and was not impressed; maybe it has been improved in the meantime. Although Joplin ticks most of the boxes (cross-platform, “own cloud” ie you can use dropbox for sync, rudimentary tags, insert attachments etc) , I just cannot commit myself for using it actively. Maybe it’s the lag of the windows (electron) app, or the clumsy editor window.
- Trillium is on my “check-out for CRIMP potential” list, will look into it more closely.
- InfoQube - man this app looks powerful, but I just don’t have the time / willpower to get past the initial window. I read a lot about it on this forum, according to the author it can do a lot of useful things, but for me, it didn’t succeed to strike the balance between user interface (which should invite you to use it) and its underlying power.
- QOwn Notes: never heard of it, will look into the app.
- Notion: online only the last time I checked, so I will pass. I am “too old school” for that
Thanks again for the suggestions!
jbaltsar wrote:
You could give Joplin a try (https://joplinapp.org). It has a web
>clipper which works very nicely and which also cleans and sanitizes the
>HTML. It’s open source and actively developed, only negative: you can
>only have one database, so if you plan to use it also for your personal
>notes etc it can become crouded (but works fine for me so far).
>
>Other options (they all have some web clipping features)
>Trilium (https://github.com/zadam/trilium)
>InfoQube and IQOutliner (https://www.infoqube.biz)
>QOwnNotes (https://www.qownnotes.org)
>Notion
>
>So far Joplin feels best for me, but all do the job.
>
Posted by jbaltsar
Oct 27, 2020 at 09:15 AM
Mirce wrote:
Thank you for your suggestions. I have tried Joplin for cross-platform
>note taking (Windows,Android,iOS). I did try the clipping option couple
>of years ago and was not impressed; maybe it has been improved in the
>meantime. Although Joplin ticks most of the boxes (cross-platform, “own
>cloud” ie you can use dropbox for sync, rudimentary tags, insert
>attachments etc) , I just cannot commit myself for using it actively.
>Maybe it’s the lag of the windows (electron) app, or the clumsy editor
>window.
Maybe you should give it another try - for me it feels slick enough (they cleared
up the GUI lately) and the imported websites look very clean and readable.
>- Trillium is on my “check-out for CRIMP potential” list, will look into
>it more closely.
If you don’t like Joplin for the Electron look-and-feel, you probably won’t like this one,
and as far as I can see it doesn’t have tags.
>- InfoQube - man this app looks powerful, but I just don’t have the time
>/ willpower to get past the initial window. I read a lot about it on
>this forum, according to the author it can do a lot of useful things,
>but for me, it didn’t succeed to strike the balance between user
>interface (which should invite you to use it) and its underlying power.
You could try the IQOutliner - it’s a stripped-down version with a focus on the notes.
It uses mhtml containers for website storage, so in theory the pages should be like
the original but there were some glitches in the formatting. But I agree - it’s somewhat overwhelming.
>- QOwn Notes: never heard of it, will look into the app.
>- Notion: online only the last time I checked, so I will pass. I am “too
>old school” for that
I too consider myself “old-school” and like to have my stuff on my own machine.
My son came up with this and I like some aspects (databases) but probably won’t stay.
Posted by washere
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:35 PM
QOwnNotes (very regularly updated) & Joplin are must haves as far as markdown + private sync (dropbox (free) account, etc) are concerned.
NoteCase pro can set up complex personal servers easily, must have too, best overall outliner, multi platform.
For HTML linking of files as outliner editing, Windows only, try Pro version, probably second best after NoteCase Pro but good at linking html files:
https://www.bauerapps.com/rightnote-version-comparisons/