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Posted by Lucas
Oct 5, 2020 at 10:11 PM
https://vimflowy.netlify.app
https://github.com/WuTheFWasThat/vimflowy
Posted by Tiggerlou
Oct 5, 2020 at 11:27 PM
Dr. Andus, thanks SO much for your suggestion to look at Dynalist and Workflowy. I spent some time today checking them both out and I’m absolutely sold on Dynalist.
To start with, Dynalist has **nested folders**. Aahhhhh (cue the choirs of angels). Given how I need to convert hundreds of documents into the new outliner, the one long list of documents in Workflowy would be a tangled mess. I’d have a hard time locating documents, even with tagging and searching. I love using both tags and folders, so having both options in Dynalist makes me happy.
There are other features that sold me on Dynalist, most of which make it possible to fit more text into one line. Customized list density AND smaller point size AND smaller fonts AND removing checkboxes AND narrow document layout (ahh….more choirs of angels). There are other features I wasn’t expecting, but they look very interesting. Flat search, colored highlighting, bookmarks. The mindmap view might even get me to try that out. I don’t have a use for a ‘font for dyslexia’ but, gosh, it does my heart good to know that exists for somebody out there :-)
Yes, Dynalist is twice the price of Workflowy, but nested folders were a non-negotiable. I wouldn’t seriously consider any outliner that doesn’t have that. Meanwhile, the several features in Dynalist that help me condense text on the page make it even more attractive. Oohhh and I can customize my own keyboard shortcuts. Yay, yay….
I’m sold. Thanks so much for your help!
P.S. Alessandro Vernet, thanks for the suggestion to use CSS on Checkvist. But I’m a lowly non-techy person. I’d rather exercise my grey matter on the text itself, rather than on learning a skill I don’t have any use for otherwise.
Posted by Drewster
Oct 6, 2020 at 12:36 PM
Just when I’d been happily creating daily notes in DevonThink, I read this thread and start thinking about outliners again. I’ve created trials in both Workflowy and Dynalist and I’m preferring Dynalist to date.
I can see this working nicely for a daily note system, as well as possibly everything else.
Reality says I’m creating another location and further data fragmentation, but CRIMP - right?
Posted by Tiggerlou
Oct 6, 2020 at 01:18 PM
I’ve got data in other places too, specifically Evernote. I’ve been using that happily for years, as well as Clarisworks. Yehhh… good old Clarisworks 5.0 from 1997. I’ve been so attached to that software, I’ve been putting off updating my operating system out of Windows 7 just so I could keep using it. I’ve got easily hundreds of outline documents in Clarisworks. I’ve converted some of them into Evernote documents, but its outline capabilities are pretty pathetic.
There was no way I’d give up outliners in general. Ever since a friend introduced me to an outliner he designed in the late 80’s, I *think* in outline form. So I’ve used them to organize performance setlists, book notes, public speaking notes, comparisons of various products I’ve considered buying, records of computer specs and software codes, personal finance, etc etc. Everything I’ve put through my scanner has gone into Clarisworks.
Every so often in the last 10-15 years, I’ve poked my head out to see if there’s a good alternative to it. I haven’t seen anything that looked good, then went right back to Clarisworks. But enough is enough. Postponing an upgrade of my OS like this is just silly, so here I am again.
Feeling good about trying out Dynalist, and grateful for the recommendations. I’m actually looking forward to converting those documents now, after 10-15 years of dreading that as a chore, and that says a lot!
Posted by Tiggerlou
Oct 6, 2020 at 01:22 PM
Okay, Drewster. You’re gonna have to translate the acronym CRIMP for me. I looked it up and can’t find anything that makes sense.
I don’t suppose you meant to say, “Community Road Improvement and Maintenance Project”.