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Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 19, 2020 at 10:36 AM
It does look quite impressive. But I’m still playing with the latest version of Notion, which has added a number of interesting features (including timelines). Ah, too much CRIMPing, too little time…
David Garner wrote:
I have not seen this mentioned here, but Dendron Notes
>https://www.dendron.so/ seems pretty interesting.
>
>Like several other projects, this builds on VSCode. That means that
>it’s cross platform. I added the extension to my ARM Chromebook this
>morning.
>
>The project, at first glance, seems to be fairly popular with
>introductory videos and a bunch of documentation.
>
>I’ve not tried to use it for anything yet, so I can’t say how well it
>actually works, but it looks pretty interesting.
>
Posted by bartb
Nov 20, 2020 at 07:21 PM
Sascha over at Zettelkasten has a different take on backlinks
https://zettelkasten.de/posts/backlinks-are-bad-links/
Paul Korm wrote:
The technology of Roam or Obsidian is not new—the developers are
>using existing off the shelf components. What’s “new” is that the
>business of linking “notes” (or something more granular within a note)
>is bringing broader awareness of the uses of hypertext theory and
>information theory dating back decades.
>
>The question that fascinates me about all this “new” interest is “why
>now—what changed”. Obsidian or Roam could have been written a
>decade or more ago. And if then, they probably didn’t generate much
>interest. (How many people bought Storyspace when it was first
>published 33 years ago—Storyspace then, and now, has the same goal as
>these new toys.)
>
>I read in Obsidian’s forums very detailed posts about ZKs, PKMs, and
>MOCs, and PARA and blah blah. Underlying the efforts behind these
>trends seems to be a general feeling of being overwhelmed by
>“information” (or data, really—it’s just data) and trying to make
>connections between “everything I think about .. everything I read ...
>everything I worry about”. It’s seductive.
>
>
Posted by Dr Andus
Nov 21, 2020 at 01:05 PM
bartb wrote:
>Sascha over at Zettelkasten has a different take on backlinks
>https://zettelkasten.de/posts/backlinks-are-bad-links/
I don’t think this is valid for all implementations or use cases, certainly not for task management.
I’m finding automatic backlinking in Roam extremely useful, especially when it comes to ‘date notes’, the ones associated with a date.
E.g. if I drop a task associated with a future date (and add that as a date note, such as [[December 20th, 2020]]), to the item, when that day comes and the [[December 20th, 2020]] note is the current daily note, it will display links to all past notes (within their context) that have tasks associated with this date (e.g. something expires on this day or needs to be followed up etc.), serving as a reminder.
I often hear people on the Roam Reddit complain that Roam is not good for task management. In fact that’s the only thing I use it for and thanks to the above feature, it’s the best task manager I’ve ever used.
I realise that the manual aspect of needing to maintain a calendar may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but for people like me who like to build their systems from scratch Roam is excellent for task management, and automatic backlinking is what makes it so.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 23, 2020 at 11:18 AM
@Dr Andus
Fascinating use case: yes, I have to agree that this sounds like a very valid way of using backlinks. Funnily enough, I’m finding the (identical) feature in NotePlan useful for exactly the same reason.
Cheers,
Bill
Posted by Franz Grieser
Nov 23, 2020 at 12:09 PM
Dr Andus wrote:
>I’m finding automatic backlinking in Roam extremely useful, especially
>when it comes to ‘date notes’, the ones associated with a date.
>
>E.g. if I drop a task associated with a future date (and add that as a
>date note, such as [[December 20th, 2020]]), to the item, when that day
>comes and the [[December 20th, 2020]] note is the current daily note, it
>will display links to all past notes (within their context) that have
>tasks associated with this date (e.g. something expires on this day or
>needs to be followed up etc.), serving as a reminder.
>
>I often hear people on the Roam Reddit complain that Roam is not good
>for task management. In fact that’s the only thing I use it for and
>thanks to the above feature, it’s the best task manager I’ve ever used.
Interesting use case, indeed.
In fact, a feature like that could make me drop Excel/Planmaker as my todo app.
NotePlan as Madaboutdana suggested might be fine, but I am looking for a Windows app.