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Posted by Tom Maddox
Aug 12, 2020 at 06:00 AM
What do you think of using Excel as an outliner? One that can include big blocks of text.
Posted by Andy Brice
Aug 12, 2020 at 11:12 AM
>Thanks, as I said here often, I have many great templates made for hp
>and use them in their place, one of those many apps used in their place.
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>Also as Andy has said often, he’s working on a free-form (free-layout)
>interface for a couple of years, to be released.
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>The whole point of this thread is that Free-Form grid.
It is still the plan to release a Hyper Plan v3 with free layout. But, as always, it is taking longer than hoped to get around to it.
The problem with free form layout is that it doesn’t scale very well for lots of cards. Too difficult to keep organized. Whereas the current Hyper Plan approach of automatically creating the grid based on the card properties easily scales to thousands of cards.
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Andy Brice
http://www.hyperplan.com
Posted by washere
Aug 12, 2020 at 02:12 PM
Andy Brice wrote:
>It is still the plan to release a Hyper Plan v3 with free layout. But,
>as always, it is taking longer than hoped to get around to it.
>
>The problem with free form layout is that it doesn’t scale very well for
>lots of cards. Too difficult to keep organized. Whereas the current
>Hyper Plan approach of automatically creating the grid based on the card
>properties easily scales to thousands of cards.
>
>—
>Andy Brice
>http://www.hyperplan.com
Can do beta for more feedback for more cards.
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Doesn’t have to work w/ all cards.
Before buying, users can have trial version to see if it works with their spec.
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Can also have two v3 releases:
Normal v3
v3+ (+ Free-Form feature)
I don’t think I’m giving up Excel for this purpose though, it’s just getting started and there’s no end to what’s possible.
Posted by washere
Aug 12, 2020 at 02:23 PM
Tom Maddox wrote:
What do you think of using Excel as an outliner? One that can include
>big blocks of text.
It’s possible. Have a look at DrAndus old reviews of “Outline 4D” if they’re still on his blog. Outline 4D, long abandoned but still selling. I think that dev fried his brain, or some personal stuff, or upgrading his stuff with Qt or GTK+ is too much work for him.
Nothing that sophisticated possible though I’d imagine unless coding a good deal. But sure. It’s possible, it’s a matter of making rows expandable and Collapsible. For tree levels, just move the text one column forward.
Also in Excel one can make a cell of text any size, look in whatever design one wants, etc. Also browsing sub grids is possible, in many ways. All without coding. Funnily, making a visual board in whatever design is actually easier, without any coding.
Of course many other benefits after setting up an initial Visual-Board or Outliner: import export galore, cloud, develop looks with templates in infinite ways, ......
For outlining:
https://www.ablebits.com/office-addins-blog/2017/12/28/excel-group-rows/
https://www.google.com/search?&q=Excel+group+rows+collapsible+expandable
Posted by washere
Aug 12, 2020 at 02:27 PM
More Excel outlining:
https://www.contextures.com/excelpivottableexpandcollapse.html