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Posted by MadaboutDana
Jun 25, 2020 at 11:12 AM
Yo folks,
Re: Notebag (macOS only pro tem)
Yes, I recently took advantage of an offer by Mariner Software to buy a macOS app, Notebag, for a reduced price. It looked decidedly interesting (not least because it supports wikilinks and backlinks, as well as tagging).
It’s been a pleasant discovery. The developer has taken the unusual step of providing a roadmap (inventively hosted on Trello at https://trello.com/b/AJkNjCqP/notebag-public-roadmap), and the app is already very polished. It’s a bit like Bear, but optimised for what he calls “projects” (in practice, hashtags; Notebag supports hierarchical hashtags, too). The backlink function in particular is very slick.
There’s a 7-day trial available on the website (https://notebag.app), and even the full price is very modest. There are still things that need improving, but they’re all on the roadmap, as is the promise of mobile apps (critical for an app of this kind).
Cheers!
Bill
Posted by washere
Jun 25, 2020 at 11:25 AM
Yes, I’ve had it since the week came out, yesterday users got email 2nd update released with new features, one major was my suggestion, will update today.
Posted by Paul Korm
Jun 25, 2020 at 12:03 PM
Another Roam wannabe (without all the Zettlekasten cant in its marketing material, thank goodness). Borrowed from Obsidian some of the look and feel. FWIW, Obsidian and Dynalist (same crew) have been using Trello boards for their roadmaps since their relative inceptions.
Notebag looks like a one-time license on the face of it but seems to act like a subscription—$16.99 USD but that only includes one-year’s updates. This is a bit like the Agenda pricing model.
Between Notebag and Obsidian, I’ll go with Obsidian. Exactly the same features as Notebag plus a lot more already delivered or on the roadmap.
Posted by apb123
Jun 25, 2020 at 12:18 PM
MadaboutDana wrote:
Yo folks,
>
>Re: Notebag (macOS only pro tem)
>
>Yes, I recently took advantage of an offer by Mariner Software to buy a
>macOS app, Notebag, for a reduced price. It looked decidedly interesting
>(not least because it supports wikilinks and backlinks, as well as
>tagging).
>
>It’s been a pleasant discovery. The developer has taken the
>unusual step of providing a roadmap (inventively hosted on Trello at
>https://trello.com/b/AJkNjCqP/notebag-public-roadmap), and the app is
>already very polished. It’s a bit like Bear, but optimised for
>what he calls “projects” (in practice, hashtags; Notebag
>supports hierarchical hashtags, too). The backlink function in
>particular is very slick.
>
>There’s a 7-day trial available on the website
>(https://notebag.app), and even the full price is very modest. There are
>still things that need improving, but they’re all on the roadmap,
>as is the promise of mobile apps (critical for an app of this kind).
>
>Cheers!
>Bill
Are you sure. The developer is Austrian. Mariner software is headquartered in Minneapolis. I have been on Mariner softwares website and can find not mention of it, although the developer appears to be selling it directly from his website.
Posted by washere
Jun 25, 2020 at 12:45 PM
Most don’t see behind apps’ blurbs. But all depends on if it is closed source or FOSS + who is the dev(s). This dev puts out serial apps which are then abandoned and does not have much time between working freelance and travelling. He’s trying his luck with this one one the back or roam’s hype to see if it catches big time.
Apparently some are selling/buying Roam trials after it closed, i tried it some months ago, didn’t like it. Also in this class of Roameos, which is what i call them, you need more than one dev & major funding of a couple of coders at least. Which is why Obsidian is doing best & i check it’s new features sometimes. But ultimately Obs too will be a nasty commercial cloud PITA.
Not knowing who the owners might eventually sell the data &or company to, might be someone in a country with no legal data oversight or even an anon shell company offshore. The biggest loss would be not just the data or the more important: personal data structures developed, but the huge time invested over the years. At least with MS Google Apple Dropbox, they are too big to be sold off rogue like that,
Obs forced roam to offer local too as opposed to his creepy insistence re: his failing basement server syncs & in other ways too, competition is good. Long term, one or two years+, need another team of FOSS devs to do a good job of it, non commercial, this might take a few years but will come as is early days. Right now Athens research & org-roam (orgy flave, not GUI) have made a start but we ultimately need a team doing a good job of it, open source on github.