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Posted by Luhmann
May 31, 2020 at 12:25 AM
“the fine print clauses says he (Roam) and also obsidian can snoop on people’s data anytime.”
While maybe true of Roam (as it is of Google, Evernote, and other online services), it is most certainly not true of Obsidian. Obsidian does not see your data, which is stored locally and not sent to their servers. They do plan to offer an optional web sync service later on, but the main advantage of using this over something like Dropbox will precisely be that it offers end-to-end encryption (as they state on their pricing page).
Posted by washere
May 31, 2020 at 12:55 AM
Luhmann wrote:
>They do plan to offer an optional web sync service later on,
That’s good to hear e2e encryption for their subs plans, not following their blurb that closely, which changes regularly.
As does Roam’s regularly (dragging his feet) in reaction to Obsidian competition as i said.
>but the main advantage of using this over something like Dropbox will precisely
>be that it offers end-to-end encryption (as they state on their pricing
>page).
Not all cryptographers agree that 128 bit AES or even 256AES is infallible.
They’re not advised officially by certain agencies as secure anymore.
Thirdly, usual exploitation is via the apps, not the 256AES data.
Fourthly given enough numerical method processing time and numbers crunching it is not guaranteed they will not break.
Fifthly, with quantum computers prototypes already and in a several years working commercial models, they won’t be guaranteed anymore.
Realistically, for an average Joe or regularly company like most of us, 256AES more than suffices though.
Plus: Not really. I mentioned truly private & truly personal clouds too:
NextCloud, OwnCloud, WebDav servers, etc.
Also other personal clouds like any synology, Samba servers, FTP/SFTP servers, WD cloud drives, etc. is possible.
These are truly private, better than Obsidian cloud, as one can do exactly what one wants, including:
e2e encryption
firewalls
scripts
etc etc one wants to implement, many off the shelf commercial turnkey options available to buy too.
>While maybe true of Roam (as it is of Google, Evernote, and other online
>services), it is most certainly not true of Obsidian. Obsidian does not
>see your data, which is stored locally and not sent to their servers.
With respect to a few points, I said this several times myself.
Posted by avernet
Jun 6, 2020 at 12:06 AM
Luhmann wrote:
>For a team of just two, one wonders if they sleep. (I
>should also add that they even read posts in this forum, even if they
>don’t always respond to them directly.)
Thank you for sharing your feelings about the Obsidian+Dynalist and Roam teams. And like you, I am impressed by how much progress the 2-person Dynalist team have been able to make on the product, year after year, and how active they are on their own Discourse. In short, I have a lot of respect for the team. Being more of Dynalist-person than an Obsidian-person, selfishly, I am just a bit worried that with the team now also working on Obsidian, progress on Dynalist won’t be as fast it otherwise could have been.
‑Alex
Posted by washere
Jun 6, 2020 at 09:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/user/thehyperadvisor/videos
Posted by Paul Korm
Jun 6, 2020 at 10:10 AM
Erica Xu recently posted some reflections on their work on he Dynalist forum. Elsewhere, she has also mentioned that some work she and Shida do on Obsidian may eventually be refactored to Dynalist—I believe this would include the WYSIWYG editor they promised to provide for Obsidian and, the one for Dynalist. Makes sense. I’m impressed by the incredible focus and output these two developers do. (All while not bothering to continually tell the world how brilliant they are—unlike some we’ve seen.)
Erica’s comment:
>As many of you have heard, for the past few months we have been working on the side on a new thing called Obsidian 15. Obsidian public beta was launched two days ago, and we figure we should let you guys know about it too.
>Obsidian is quite different from Dynalist, as it’s a knowledge base that’s works on top of a local folder of Markdown files. It’s also not an outliner (as in you can’t zoom, expand, or collapse). The use case of Obsidian is more about deliberately writing down and revisiting notes, more than quick and friction-less brainstorming and capturing. Obsidian values connections more, whereas Dynalist values structures more.
>If you’re interested in Obsidian, feel free to check it out! Its use case does overlap with Dynalist a bit, but not much, and we’ve heard many people having successes with using both for different purposes. As for Dynalist, we will develop and maintain it as usual; we don’t expect much to change.