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Posted by bvasconcelos
May 19, 2020 at 04:45 PM
Luhmann wrote:
Both Roam and Obsidian identify “unlinked references”/“unlinked
>mentions” alongside those that have been deliberately linked, and allow
>you to link them if you like. (Not sure if this is implemented yet in
>Obsidian, but I know it is planned.)
True, they do. Yet, this is something completely unrelated.
With auto wiki links I can go from page a to pages b, c or d even if they don’t mention page a. Moreover, I can set up aliases for pages b, c and d so that I can have as many names as I can possibly conceive serving as links towards them.
Bernhard wrote:
>
>bvasconcelos wrote:
>By automatic wiki linking I mean the mode in which every name
>>corresponding to another file appears as a link, regardless of double
>>brackets. I don’t see this popping up anywhere else at all. Which is a
>>shame.
>>
>
>I think that VoodooPad did have it all the time.
I mentioned it in my previous post. Only DEVONthink and VoodooPad have this feature. So what I was saying is that I don’t see it popping up in new places.
Posted by Luhmann
May 20, 2020 at 10:09 AM
> With auto wiki links I can go from page a to pages b, c or d even if they don’t mention page a.
Please explain. This doesn’t make sense to me. Aliases I understand, and both Roam and Obsidian seem to plan to implement this in some form in the future, but I don’t understand how a page knows to link to a page without any mention of that page (linked or unlinked)?
Posted by bvasconcelos
May 21, 2020 at 02:19 AM
Luhmann wrote:
> With auto wiki links I can go from page a to pages b, c or d even if
>they don’t mention page a.
>
>Please explain. This doesn’t make sense to me. Aliases I understand, and
>both Roam and Obsidian seem to plan to implement this in some form in
>the future, but I don’t understand how a page knows to link to a page
>without any mention of that page (linked or unlinked)?
Page a:
```
# Ilias
The Iliad begins with the wrath of Achilles.
```
Page b:
```
# Wrath
A boiling of the blood around the heart…
```
In DT3 and VP:
Whilst reading page A, I can go to b (Wrath).
In Roam:
There is no link to page B, since Page B never mentions the “Iliad”. While reading page A, I can only see what other pages mention it. I can’t simply go to every other possible location I would in other systems.
I hope this makes sense.
Posted by Luhmann
May 21, 2020 at 02:38 AM
On what basis does it make this connection? I personally would worry that such a system would make a lot of useless connections. I would prefer to have some degree of manual control over it.
Posted by bvasconcelos
May 21, 2020 at 03:13 PM
Luhmann wrote:
>On what basis does it make this connection? I personally would worry
>that such a system would make a lot of useless connections. I would
>prefer to have some degree of manual control over it.
Based on the record name/filename. That is, if I have a file called Plato, every occurrence of the word “Plato” elsewhere is a link to this file.
>I personally would worry
>that such a system would make a lot of useless connections. I would
>prefer to have some degree of manual control over it.
It can actually be quite useful. Here is a use case to illustrate: https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/how-i-use-wiki-links-and-aliases/47846