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Posted by Nomatica
Mar 6, 2020 at 09:12 PM
Graham Rhind wrote:
>Zoot now contains a help file.
Looks like the help file was updated recently. That is promising.
> I don’t know where they’ve gone, or why, but I suspect some
>have moved on because they require multi-platform support and a mobile
>companion app, neither of which Zoot can offer.
As I remember, email was a way that things could be made available- but it was preferable to use google.
>>>I use it for my media files, which can be individually annotated;
>>>and the Smart Folders options allow you to create custom views in ways
>>>that just tagging in other programs can’t.
I need to learn more about smart folders. I believe there was a post in this forum discussing it years back.
> Each photo is carefully named (who, where, when etc.). With
>a program such as The Brain, I have to define a structure and can then
>import (or link) the photo to a point in that structure. I.e., if I have
>a photo of person a in place b in year c, I have to choose where to
>place it, or place it in all of them, creating duplication. If I place
>it in one part of the structure, I can still tag it or search for it and
>find its relevance to other parts of the structure that way, but it’s
>inelegant and a lot of work.
It seems that my use case has many similarities. I have many photos, audio files and videos that I would like to catalogue based on the content, the people involved, and the people involved.
It might be that I can use a multi tier system. The issue with tagging using tagspaces, is the name length. The names get unwieldy. However if the files can be anchored so to speak (1st tier) with rudimentary tagging in the name, perhaps no more than 4 tag, then deeper connections can be added using Zoot’s database tagging. With your use case, is it possible to add detailed notes to the actual photograph? So for instance, would you be able to add a description within the photograph’s entry? Or do you need to create a separate entry, like a note, and link them? As I remember, Zoot had different types of entries. There were notes, Journal entries etc.
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>Zoot, on the other hand, allows me to dump the whole lot into it without
>worrying about structure, links or tags. Using the smart folders
>feature, I can view all photo’s for person a, or all for place b, or all
>from year c, or any combination of them; and I can create new views
>without having to find, link, move, tag, duplicate etc. etc. the files.
>
This sounds attractive. I do not want to be spending alot of time creating the structure. Can Zoot automatically monitor a file on your computer and import items from that file as separate entries? I realize a smart folder is different- I just am curious if that is possible. I typically save different files to different folders. It would be nice if my Info Manager could automatically import items into from a folder and create an entry. Even better would be going beyond the file name to create tags. In the case of an academic journal pdf/journal- pulling the tags from that. This seems to be something limited to reference managers.
If I remember correctly, Zoot can process emails in some interesting ways. There is a way that you can set it up to monitor an email account and have it create entries from incoming messages in a similar way to infoqube. Taking your current cataloguing project, would it be possible for you to create the same type of entry in zoot that you do currently, by emailing the photograph? Can you email a photo to an account you are monitoring, and have the name, location and event tags pulled from the attached file’s name or elsewhere in the email?
If anyone has experience doing this with infoqube or another application, I would be interested in hearing more.
Thank you for going over how you are using The Brain and Zoot. It is very helpful, especially because there are great similarities between what I am looking to do and what you are doing.
Posted by Nomatica
Mar 6, 2020 at 09:35 PM
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>BTW (not a suggestion for Nomatica as it is an online solution) I found
>the following rather creepy but potentially useful:
>“Media e-Discovery | Face Recognition: As soon as you upload a photo,
>the technology will begin to scan and detect all the faces within it,
>creating a custom thumbnail for them. Any new photos matching that
>person’s face, will appear under the thumbnail created.”
>https://www.zoolz.com/bigmind/
>
Even though I cannot use them, however attractive, these things are interesting.
I have seen a number of offline desktop applications list face recognition within their feature set. Digikam is one that comes to mind. Depending on how the tags are added, it is possible they could carry over to Zoot or some other application. I am not sure how the tags are applied and if they can carry over outside the program. Also, I am sure the quality of the photos is also important.
Posted by Smithers
Mar 7, 2020 at 01:11 AM
Hey Nomatica,
Nimbus Notes—I’d give it a look
If being able to have all your stuff in one place is what you’re looking for, then I’d check out Nimbus Notes. You can upload videos, upload images, upload pdfs right in the text editor and view those files. They’ve even got this cool little feature that lets you “expand”/“collapse” videos in a single field.
The interface is nice, (although I spent a weekend making my own css for it) and it’s got an actual “sheet” sidebar, and “folder” side bar to the left of the editor.
Posted by Nomatica
Mar 7, 2020 at 04:12 AM
Smithers wrote:
>If being able to have all your stuff in one place is what you’re looking
>for, then I’d check out Nimbus Notes. You can upload videos, upload
>images, upload pdfs right in the text editor and view those files.
I see they have an offline mode. Is it possible to use the software “offline” only? I suspect it is all web based.
>They’ve even got this cool little feature that lets you
>“expand”/“collapse” videos in a single field.
I am curious about what that would look like.
>
>The interface is nice, (although I spent a weekend making my own css for
>it) and it’s got an actual “sheet” sidebar, and “folder” side bar to the
>left of the editor.
>
>
It is nice that you can do that. Tweak it. But that support my assumption that it is a web only application. It looks really slick. And actually it seems pretty affordable compared to other services.
Posted by Nomatica
Mar 7, 2020 at 04:24 AM
Smithers,
I was too quick to judge. It has a desktop application. And an android application. And says specifically
“Nimbus Note is available on the most popular platforms and devices, so you’ll always have access to your information—no matter where you are or what device you’re using. Since Internet connection is not needed for most Nimbus Note features, your notes will be conveniently available to you offline.”
Definitely an interesting option. I wonder if it is possible to sync between devices without using their servers. It is a subscription service which made me assume it relied on their servers.