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Posted by Amontillado
Jul 10, 2020 at 04:01 AM
>I was going through my old files and found a MACWORLD pdf from 1993
>which had an ad from Inspiration, showing off its
>outliner-to-mindmap-and-back feature and I’m still a little shocked that
>all these years later we never got this in a modern app. Or ever got
>cloning copied from Dave winer’s MORE implementation of it form 1986.
>(Well, that dev did put it in Frontier years later, but he never
>properly marketed that app, which wasn’t a real outliner anyway.)
>
>Mutter. Mutter.
I used MindNode for a while. It has an outline mode, but it has the look of an afterthought.
Posted by satis
Jul 10, 2020 at 06:17 AM
I use MindNode mainly because it’s dead simple and has color-coded tags. But since 2014 iThoughts has offered real-time edits between itself and Marked2, where Marked2 shows outline previews of mindmaps (which can then be saved out in different formats). MindNode later gained a somewhat more convoluted ability to do the same thing (last time I tried it you needed to manually implement sync) but the iThoughts implementation is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zstc4JBVUm4
And iThoughts has fishbone diagrams, which I tend to prefer.
Posted by satis
Jul 15, 2020 at 09:24 PM
So Omni has just moved OmniOutliner, and all its apps, to subscription pricing.
OmniOutliner is now available for one price to unlock on Mac/iPhone/iPad, for US $4.99/month, or $49.99/year.
https://store.omnigroup.com/omnioutliner
As someone who’d purchased the software before it jumped in price a year ago (I think Mac/iOS Pro-unlock was $70 before Omni hiked it to $150), I’m not sure how I feel about this. OmniOutliner seems more like a decision to implement me-too pricing to its other products, as the big news today was actually the introduction of OmniPlan 4, and its subscription model.
https://www.omnigroup.com/blog/introducing-omniplan-4-for-mac
Posted by Hugh
Jul 16, 2020 at 01:29 PM
satis wrote:
So Omni has just moved OmniOutliner, and all its apps, to subscription
>pricing.
>
>OmniOutliner is now available for one price to unlock on
>Mac/iPhone/iPad, for US $4.99/month, or $49.99/year.
>
>https://store.omnigroup.com/omnioutliner
>
>As someone who’d purchased the software before it jumped in price a year
>ago (I think Mac/iOS Pro-unlock was $70 before Omni hiked it to $150),
>I’m not sure how I feel about this. OmniOutliner seems more like a
>decision to implement me-too pricing to its other products, as the big
>news today was actually the introduction of OmniPlan 4, and its
>subscription model.
>
>https://www.omnigroup.com/blog/introducing-omniplan-4-for-mac
The upgrade from OmniPlan 2 Pro to 3 Pro cost me $84.99. An upgrade to 4 Pro would cost me $199. Ouch!
Posted by satis
Jul 16, 2020 at 04:39 PM
There *might* be a discount available. I don’t own OmniPlan but at https://store.omnigroup.com/omniplan there’s the link “Register your license to receive discounts”
Otherwise yes, v.4 is either $200 for the ‘traditional’ standard version ($400 for Pro) or $200/year for an unlocked Mac/iPad/iPhone subscription.
I’m good with OmniOutliner, since there’s no new version and no reason to choose to switch to a subscription.