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Posted by MadaboutDana
Apr 7, 2020 at 10:51 AM
I fear the Omni Group has run out of steam in recent years.
Listen, I hate to say that. I love small, independent developers, and being able to use OmniOutliner was one of the things I most looked forward to when switching over to Apple.
But OmniFocus and OmniOutliner aren’t the glowing testaments to developer ingenuity they used to be. Instead, they’re increasingly looking like outmoded, clunky legacy apps. Which is a real shame. I reluctantly abandoned OmniFocus when they did the last major update, because I couldn’t believe they’d made the iOS version as clunky as it is. More recently, they’ve jacked their prices up to truly Adobe-worthy levels, which consoled me for abandoning OmniFocus.
I’ve never felt ready to shell out the significant amount of cash required for other apps like OmniGraffle or OmniPlanner; it would be interesting to know where they stand under the onslaught of so many recent alternatives.
It’s a shame. They showed the way for an awful lot of developers, but then appeared to lose the spark themselves.
Cheers,
Bill
Posted by Paul Korm
Apr 7, 2020 at 11:44 AM
Adobe-worth prices? No, I don’t think so yet. I’ve probably spent maybe $150 on OmniFocus base and upgrades over the last 10 years. No where near the cost of my minimalist “photographers” subscriptions to Adobe.
Anyway, I have quit and divorced OmniFocus in favor of some shiny thing many times. OF—> Todist—> OF—> Things—> Ayoa/Dropbox—> OF—> Back to Todoist—> OF.
And on and on. Besides the slog of migrating between planners, I just keep finding OF features such as perspectives, forecast view, and the revamped tags (formerly contexts) really hard to replicate elsewhere. I hate the iOS/iPad OS/WatchOS apps—but their ubiquity is useful. Although the OF web app is a total joke and already seems to be abandonware.
It’s all situational isn’t it? OF is tolerable for me, bad for Bill, etc. etc.
Posted by satis
Jul 9, 2020 at 02:26 AM
Omni updated its roadmap today, and as with the last roadmap post it neglected to mention OmniOutliner once. OO is so neglected that to the posed question “With major new upgrades to your apps on the way, should I buy them today?” the answer, “If you just want to get work done rather than worrying about timing, your best option might be to purchase a subscription!” ignores the fact that OO is not a subscription app.
It’s clear where the company’s focus is, especially as they’ve essentially stopped OO development after increasing pricing to $150 for unlocked the unlocked version offering Mac/iOS file sync/sharing.
Sadly, as a user of OO and Mac/iOS there’s no better alternative right now, but the evident abandonment does not make me comfortable.
https://www.omnigroup.com/blog/omni-roadmap-2020-july-update
Posted by MadaboutDana
Jul 9, 2020 at 08:32 AM
OmniOutliner has got some great features, but I’d put a couple of other apps ahead at the present time.
Outlinely would be one – except, alas, that it appears to have gone moribund. But Workflowy and Dynalist are two others; once the mobile Workflowy apps have caught up with the web/desktop developments (columns), they’ll blow OO right out of the water.
But I wouldn’t care to have to transfer a lot of OO files to another platform – I feel for you there!
Posted by Simon
Jul 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM
I dropped using all Omni apps a while ago when the prices went through the roof. I had OO when it came free with my mac and it was my everything app. I paid for upgrades, but over the years they killed it in how they developed it. The styling caused many users hours of frustration and in the end I stopped using it because of that. I now use Scrivener on macOS and iOS. It’s not the same, but does what I need to to rather well, as does Bear.